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Realistically I think this summer is probably about moving on the dead wood left over from last season: Hussey, Reed etc, plus Carruthers (the only one of the spear-carriers we are likely to get a significant fee for). LB isn't an easy position to recruit so I have a feeling we may see a bit more of Lafferty yet.

Is Donaldson on a one year contract or two? I don't think he's done enough overall to get an extension if he times out this summer.

Although it is easy to be disappointed at present as the season is fizzling out a bit, I think the argument that we should move the likes of Clarke, Sharp and Basham on is not sensible or realistic - they are decent players at this level if not necessarily players you would want to be unchallenged first choice in their respective positions.
 
AlanWrightsShinyHead said:
Transfer listing almost the entire strike force - a bold decision!
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Yep...remember I said I would keep Sharp and Ched needs to prove himself. Is Donaldson good enough for this level ? No. Clarke? had a little hot streak but I over the last couple of months we have seen the Leon Clarke which many clubs have got frustrated with . yes I think we will need 3 new strikers

Iceybabey said:
Clarke, Sharp, Bash and Duffy? Give over. All have done brilliantly this season but you don't sell them just because we need to improve. You add to this group of players.
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Bash should not a 1st choice centre half either in a back three or a back 4. He has been a good servant to us but Stearman and O'Connell are mile ahead of him in terms of defensive ability. He certainly shouldn't be a starter in midfield.

He is maybe cover but that is all which is why I would look to move him on

Duffy- I like him as a player but Brooks will most likely be ahead of him next season as will Holmes if we stick to the same formation. I don't think he is good enough to play in a midfield 4. I reckon he will be a bit part player. I have loved watching him play but he doesn't as many games and his goal scoring record isn't the best. We need a midfielder to go beyond the strikers and he doesn't do this

Do you think Clarke,Sharp,Duffy,Donaldson and Basham will be regular starters next season ? I will be disappointed if at least 3 of them are.
 
bartman said:
Based on the need to improve next season I would also transfer list:

Clarke or Sharp...we need pace and these two don't have it but we will need to keep one of them due to their experience. Personally I would keep Sharp as he is the better finisher

Donaldson- just not good enough

Ched- he has until the end of the season to prove himself. I would start him the next 3/4 games to give him a chance .

Basham- transfer list him. For all his effort and enthusiasm his passing is poor and he isn't good enough in either midfield or defence. If no offers come in he should be cover only

Duffy- lovely little player but he is going to be a bit part player. Brooks and Holmes will be above him

I would keep Lafferty as he is a good cover player and we will need the money elsewhere ( e.g. 3 new strikers)
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Holmes before Duffy you are kidding me?
Not fit to lace his boots
 
Lane Ender said:
Holmes before Duffy you are kidding me?
Not fit to lace his boots
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We need goals from Midfield. Holmes brings this. Whether he is good enough we will have to wait and see. Brooks certainly should be ahead of them both

As I've said I like Duffy as a player but can you see him in a tram that gets us promoted from this league ?
 
bartman said:
Care to elaborate ? :)
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Ok, Basham. He simply optimises everything that's great about the team right now. Ok technically he's the weakest centre half of the three but if you want to keep Lafferty because he can cover other positions yet get rid of Bash - then I think we have a very different views on "utility/squad players".

You're willing to split up one of the most prolific strike forces in the division up. They aren't the fastest and they are aging but guess what? We arent going to go out and spend 10m on a striker like Wolves, Villa and the pigs. If we lose/let go of Hanson, Lavery there's still room for a prolific or slight gamble striker to come in.

But mainly, Duffy!
How the hell can anyone think that dropping Duffy is a good idea. Sure he tires, he's 30+ and he's not overly consisitant but he's the best we have in that very very hard to recruit in area!!
We've gone years without a player like him, we thought Carruthers was his replacement, this season Holmes... He's a little magician and I would play him and play him until his legs are completely gone.
I'm Flecks biggest fan, he's our engine but without Duffy we lack that "Killer ball" or that "little bit of creativity" that clubs pay millions and millions for.

I actually rate Donaldson from the bench too but now I'm just being argumentative haha
 
Ricky said:
I think Fleck and O'Connell have outstayed their welcome and need to be moved on.

Duffy's 32 now so couldn't argue with a contract termination. We should look to sell Baldock too because he might not get any better.

Then we can focus on getting cover for Basham, Stevens, Lundstram and Sharp.
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:D :D
 
From the pig end said:
Ok, Basham. He simply optimises everything that's great about the team right now. Ok technically he's the weakest centre half of the three but if you want to keep Lafferty because he can cover other positions yet get rid of Bash - then I think we have a very different views on "utility/squad players".

You're willing to split up one of the most prolific strike forces in the division up. They aren't the fastest and they are aging but guess what? We arent going to go out and spend 10m on a striker like Wolves, Villa and the pigs. If we lose/let go of Hanson, Lavery there's still room for a prolific or slight gamble striker to come in.

But mainly, Duffy!
How the hell can anyone think that dropping Duffy is a good idea. Sure he tires, he's 30+ and he's not overly consisitant but he's the best we have in that very very hard to recruit in area!!
We've gone years without a player like him, we thought Carruthers was his replacement, this season Holmes... He's a little magician and I would play him and play him until his legs are completely gone.
I'm Flecks biggest fan, he's our engine but without Duffy we lack that "Killer ball" or that "little bit of creativity" that clubs pay millions and millions for.

I actually rate Donaldson from the bench too but now I'm just being argumentative haha
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The comments yiuu have made about each player confirm to me why we need to look for improvement in each of those areas.

Basham- not good technically at CH which is exactly why he needs replacing. His passing is awful and he is weak positionally. Hia enthusiasm and pace are hus assets.

Clarke and Sharp. I agree they are other aging. One has scored in 8 games from 30 starts the other 9 games in 25 starts.Do we need them both ?

Duffy- his ' killer balls' are becoming fewer and fewer.

As for Donaldson - yes you are being argumentative :-)
 
Slightly baffling thread for me.

Surely all of this depends on the budget we're going to get for next season...and how massively up in the air that situation is?

Depending on the financial situation, some of the 'deadwood' could be needed to make up the numbers.

It's March. We simply don't know.
 



From the pig end said:
I honestly don't think I've ever disagreed with so much in just one post. :eek:
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Agreed. I just presume that Brooks won’t be here next season, why else are we being spun these lines about him re: injuries, illnesses etc ?
 
bartman said:
Based on the need to improve next season I would also transfer list:

Clarke or Sharp...we need pace and these two don't have it but we will need to keep one of them due to their experience. Personally I would keep Sharp as he is the better finisher

Donaldson- just not good enough

Ched- he has until the end of the season to prove himself. I would start him the next 3/4 games to give him a chance .

Basham- transfer list him. For all his effort and enthusiasm his passing is poor and he isn't good enough in either midfield or defence. If no offers come in he should be cover only

Duffy- lovely little player but he is going to be a bit part player. Brooks and Holmes will be above him

I would keep Lafferty as he is a good cover player and we will need the money elsewhere ( e.g. 3 new strikers)
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Wow your an idiot.
 
Lee Evans might not get any younger so if we can get our money back for him I think we should.
 
bartman said:
We need goals from Midfield. Holmes brings this. Whether he is good enough we will have to wait and see. Brooks certainly should be ahead of them both

As I've said I like Duffy as a player but can you see him in a tram that gets us promoted from this league ?
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Would be a huge risk getting rid of Duffy for Holmes. As yet we don’t know whether Holmes is good enough for this league never mind capable of scoring regularly. If he wasn’t up to it that would put enormous pressure on young Brooksy. The 3 between them are adequate for now. Our probable small summer budget would be better spent elsewhere. Keep Duffy. Simple
 
Out:

Lavery, Lafferty, Hanson, Donaldson, C Evans, Hussey, Wright, Carruthers

Question marks, but probably get rid:

Long, Reed (I'd take a look at them, I still think Long will make it somewhere), Holmes (if we need money and he's not going to feature, last chance to sell), Freeman (he's picks up a lot of injuries and I'd take a long hard look at him)

leaving:

--------------------------Moore
Baldock Basham Stearman O'Connell Stevens
---------------Coutts-----------Fleck
------------------------Brooks
----------------Clarke----------Sharp

Subs: Duffy, Henneghan, Lundstram, Leonard, Evans, Eastwood, Thomas

Shopping list:

LWB (competition), CB (starting), 2 x CFs (starting and competition), RWB (cover), GK (competition)

Loan out: Eastwood, Henneghan, Slater,
 
bartman said:
Based on the need to improve next season I would also transfer list:

Clarke or Sharp...we need pace and these two don't have it but we will need to keep one of them due to their experience. Personally I would keep Sharp as he is the better finisher

Donaldson- just not good enough

Ched- he has until the end of the season to prove himself. I would start him the next 3/4 games to give him a chance .

Basham- transfer list him. For all his effort and enthusiasm his passing is poor and he isn't good enough in either midfield or defence. If no offers come in he should be cover only

Duffy- lovely little player but he is going to be a bit part player. Brooks and Holmes will be above him

I would keep Lafferty as he is a good cover player and we will need the money elsewhere ( e.g. 3 new strikers)
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I think Duffy is the most important player we have currently. No Duffy, no creativity. Brooks is an exceptional talent but he hasn’t come of age yet. Will do amazing things in flashes and can be a game winner, but he doesn’t make the team tick like Duffy. Holmes? Not seen enough of him to form an opinion but I wouldn’t see him ahead of Duffy based on what we’ve seen so far. Like his directness but Duffy has guile.
 
bartman said:
Based on the need to improve next season I would also transfer list:

Clarke or Sharp...we need pace and these two don't have it but we will need to keep one of them due to their experience. Personally I would keep Sharp as he is the better finisher

Donaldson- just not good enough

Ched- he has until the end of the season to prove himself. I would start him the next 3/4 games to give him a chance .

Basham- transfer list him. For all his effort and enthusiasm his passing is poor and he isn't good enough in either midfield or defence. If no offers come in he should be cover only

Duffy- lovely little player but he is going to be a bit part player. Brooks and Holmes will be above him

I would keep Lafferty as he is a good cover player and we will need the money elsewhere ( e.g. 3 new strikers)
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Bartman log off pal
 
bartman said:
The comments yiuu have made about each player confirm to me why we need to look for improvement in each of those areas.

Basham- not good technically at CH which is exactly why he needs replacing. His passing is awful and he is weak positionally. Hia enthusiasm and pace are hus assets.

Clarke and Sharp. I agree they are other aging. One has scored in 8 games from 30 starts the other 9 games in 25 starts.Do we need them both ?

Duffy- his ' killer balls' are becoming fewer and fewer.

As for Donaldson - yes you are being argumentative :)
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Yeah that killer ball at reading eh
 
It’s obvious that quite a few on here think this squad is good enough to go again :/ Ho dear
 
I'm fairly sure Lafferty's contract is up this season so I would guess United will release him. Long I think has another year after this one, as he was offered the new deal under Wilder in his early days. He has also had a decent season for Wimbledon so they will probably want to buy him. Donaldson will probably be released. Ched needs game time and if he is going to be a back up then I can see him going on loan till Christmas somewhere. I can't see him going permanently yet. I hope he turns it round like everyone else does but the injury this season has really set him back, and he isn't getting any younger now.

I reckon we'll sign two new forwards in the summer both hopefully will have pace which Wilder knows we lack. Brooks will no doubt leave sadly.
 
In the words of the great poet Ian Brown we should be focusing on keeping what we've got.

Yes certain players look a little short (Basham for example) but if it's one thing we've learnt this season - it's a bloody long, tough season and trying to do it with 13 players isn't possible.

Keep what we've got whilst trying to add a CF, RCB and LCB.

My personal fetish is keeping Jamal Blackman but I know that's a controversial move, but we just look so much better with him in there...
 
bartman said:
Based on the need to improve next season I would also transfer list:

Clarke or Sharp...we need pace and these two don't have it but we will need to keep one of them due to their experience. Personally I would keep Sharp as he is the better finisher

Donaldson- just not good enough

Ched- he has until the end of the season to prove himself. I would start him the next 3/4 games to give him a chance .

Basham- transfer list him. For all his effort and enthusiasm his passing is poor and he isn't good enough in either midfield or defence. If no offers come in he should be cover only

Duffy- lovely little player but he is going to be a bit part player. Brooks and Holmes will be above him

I would keep Lafferty as he is a good cover player and we will need the money elsewhere ( e.g. 3 new strikers)
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Controversial Bartman but if we are to push on, maybe the right decision.
 



Ricky said:
It goes without saying that we need to cash in on Brooks though, anything above £1m is a great deal. That's serious money.
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Are you serious Ricky ?, I know we give players away, but anything above a million for Brooks !, you have got to be joking, surely you mean £10 million.
 
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