O'Connell's next

[NuddysGloves]

I think it would . I think the older players will realise the clocks ticking for them whilst the younger ones , Carruthers , Stevens , Baldock etc etc will also realise exactly what it is that they need to do to be rewarded in a similar fashion .

Duffys situation is a little bit concerning though .

Concerning why? People are saying he has upped his game this season due to the emergence of Brooks so could the looming transfer window and possibility of another player coming in to replace him not act as similar motivation?

If he wants a contract extension he should be making sure there is no doubt in Chris Wilder's mind that he can do it again next year and that he is the best option for that position going forward, at which point he will be duly rewarded.

 

[kop_blade9]

One of these men head bricks.

Looks like he already headed them in place behind him

 

[coolhandluke]

Concerning why? People are saying he has upped his game this season due to the emergence of Brooks so could the looming transfer window and possibility of another player coming in to replace him not act as similar motivation?

If he wants a contract extension he should be making sure there is no doubt in Chris Wilder's mind that he can do it again next year and that he is the best option for that position going forward, at which point he will be duly rewarded.

I think hes already done a pretty good job of showing Wilder that he can produce the goods this season and next , dont you ?

 

[NuddysGloves]

I think hes already done a pretty good job of showing Wilder that he can produce the goods this season and next , dont you ?

I'm not slating Duffy at all, he has been outstanding this season. But this all stemmed from discussing whether it would cause a morale problem seeing team mates be given new contracts and my thought that it could do the opposite and act as motivation.

Wilder started the season playing Carruthers ahead of Duffy at the start of the season, Duffy got an opportunity and has proved he is the man for the job this year, once CW is convinced he is the best player for the position for next season as well then I'm sure he will be given his reward.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Jack on contract extension:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05n3vdk

 

[ucandomagic]

Nah the other just walks on water.

Not just - as well as head bricks and turn the water into Peroni!!

 

[coolhandluke]

I'm not slating Duffy at all, he has been outstanding this season. But this all stemmed from discussing whether it would cause a morale problem seeing team mates be given new contracts and my thought that it could do the opposite and act as motivation.

Wilder started the season playing Carruthers ahead of Duffy at the start of the season, Duffy got an opportunity and has proved he is the man for the job this year, once CW is convinced he is the best player for the position for next season as well then I'm sure he will be given his reward.

Duffy is exactly the type of player im concerned with regarding contract extensions or a lack of . Hes consistently delivering outstanding performances week in week out but his contract expires at the end of the current season . He could quite easily be thinking what more he can do to have his short/medium term future secured than what hes already doing . Its probably a moot point though to be fair as im pretty much certain Wilder will be aware of the situation and act accordingly . He really is an annoying fucker our manager , its hard to pick fault with what hes doing right now

 

[SwissBlade]

Not sure I agree with that. McClaren, Capello and Hodgson were all pretty clueless for England. I'm not a fan of Southgate and I think he's learning on the job but he does seem to have a clear vision of where he wants to take England. He's very committed to the young players and has worked with most of them for a long time. He trusts them.

Whether he's got the skills to implement his vision is yet to be proven.

I think its proven that at this moment in time he doesn't have the skills to be getting the best out of the players.

Its good to see that he's playing the youngsters, but sorry to say that he's tactically clueless.

I agree that McClaren, Capello and Hodgson failed tactically, but they had proven track records of success having done that elsewhere.

Southgate took Middlesborough backwards, England U21's did very little to progress them and somehow managed to get the England job.

No disputing that he's a nice guy, but his suitability to manage the national team will be exposed in Russia next year

 

[Sheffsteel]

Wouldn’t worry about Duffy, can’t see any decent teams being interested in him.

His cv shows that he’s been a lower league journeyman most of his career.
He’s hardly going to win a long big contract based on 10 good/ great performances.

It’s a similiar situation with Leon Clarke, he’s also in the later years of his contract.

At the moment both Duffy and Clarke’s performance levels are at easily the best of their careers.
Logic suggests it’s a temporary spike in forum and both could easily be really uneffective if they move to another club.

 

[Antonb]

I want Duffy to finish his footballing career here, no matter what division we are in. I think he's earned it.

 

[BushBlade]

I think its proven that at this moment in time he doesn't have the skills to be getting the best out of the players.

Its good to see that he's playing the youngsters, but sorry to say that he's tactically clueless.

I agree that McClaren, Capello and Hodgson failed tactically, but they had proven track records of success having done that elsewhere.

Southgate took Middlesborough backwards, England U21's did very little to progress them and somehow managed to get the England job.

No disputing that he's a nice guy, but his suitability to manage the national team will be exposed in Russia next year

I haven't even said he was a nice guy, it's not in my criteria for a manager. Whilst Southgate's tactics haven't given us much in the way of attractive football he got us into the World Cup, which was his remit. He's obviously not tactically clueless if he can keep clean sheets against two of the four sides most people will be tipping to make the final.

As you say, the other managers had decent track records and still failed so maybe track records have less bearing on international football than we think.

Right now, he's not really done any worse than Capello or Hodgson and better than McClaren but he hasn't been tested under real pressure yet. My gut feeling? He'll fuck up like the rest of them but even if we got to the quarter finals and lost on penalties people will stay say he fucked up and pick out a game where we struggle to break down some team that parks the bus as their justification, along with picking a couple of players they don't like (usually the one who does all the running about, screening etc).

I get a bit tired of people going on about tactics because they only usually make a tangible difference when two teams are evenly matched. When Man City beat a team like Huddersfield, it's not because Wagner had got his tactics wrong, it's because Man City have far better players. No amount of tactical genius can overcome that.

Apparently, listening to the radio earlier, Ireland lost because MON got his tactics wrong. No he didn't. At 1-1 they were going out so they had to go for it and just didn't have the quality to do so. They have no decent attacking players and as soon as they had to rely on their attacking players, they were fucked. They were a poor team who punched above their weight and ultimately got found out.

 

[elgoog44]

https://www.sufc.co.uk/news/2017/november/jack-oconnell-contract/

you think he would be happy about it... love JOC like every one else but looks a bit fucked off in the picture bless him.

 

[Tynemouth Blade]

Unsurprisingly i didn't watch!

But thats progress from the dullest and most clueless manager England have had for a long time.

Neither did I, its just what I read this morning!

 

[EmleyMoorBlade]

you think he would be happy about it... love JOC like every one else but looks a bit fucked off in the picture bless him.

Probably that piss poor pen they gave him to sign the contract with

 

[elgoog44]

Probably that piss poor pen they gave him to sign the contract with

now you mention it, "Boss this pen is shit, I know we are cutting back, but come on!, it even say's Ikea on the side!"

 

[dublin 10 blade]

now you mention it, "Boss this pen is shit, I know we are cutting back, but come on!, it even say's Ikea on the side!"

Think you'll find it says IKEA , on the 150 year celebration away shirt ,
Have they got them yet ??
Where's my cake

 

[elgoog44]

Think you'll find it says IKEA , on the 150 year celebration away shirt ,
Have they got them yet ??
Where's my cake

 

[blade too long]

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Wouldn’t worry about Duffy, can’t see any decent teams being interested in him.

His cv shows that he’s been a lower league journeyman most of his career.
He’s hardly going to win a long big contract based on 10 good/ great performances.

It’s a similiar situation with Leon Clarke, he’s also in the later years of his contract.

At the moment both Duffy and Clarke’s performance levels are at easily the best of their careers.
Logic suggests it’s a temporary spike in forum and both could easily be really uneffective if they move to another club.

That isn’t a great approach in my view. Duffy was a key part of last season, and has been a key part of this season. Players should be rewarded for their contribution – he’s already deserved an extended deal in my opinion. Protecting an investment isn’t the only reason to give a player a contract extension.

 

[Weasel]

I sincerely hope that the contract extension negotiations are already underway with Duffy and his agent. He deserves one just for the goal at Pigsborough imo.

Good player in enjoying his football in thr latter part of his career. He should be given a contract to the end of next season and a decent pay rise. He deserves it.

 

[Danny_Blade]

"Jack hasn't been given a contract extension because he's a fan favourite but because his performances have warranted it."

Everything Wilder says isn't necessarily genius, it just tends to be common sense and that's all we can ask for as fans after how badly we've been ran in the recent past.