Reminder of conduct - letter from SUFC..

[shorehamview]

My main problem with bad language is that you get morons who can't control themselves. Last season at the Scunny game we were sat on the South Stand and a bloke right behind my son shouted 'You Fucking Cunt' to the lino. I turned round and just asked him to tone it down as I didn't want my lad learning that at 6. Personally I don't think that's an unreasonable ask and the bloke apologised and did what I asked him to do, I think he still vented his anger just in a slightly less graphic manner!

I appreciate people are going to swear I just wonder if people can take a look round before the game and if there is someone young make a bit of effort to tone it down? Not a lot to ask and then everyone enjoys the game.

Part of parenting is explaining to your child that yes, they may hear lots of naughty words and no, it isn’t acceptable to repeat them. You can’t wrap them in cotton wool, just teach them the difference between right and left, and right and wrong. Asking everyone to tone it down in case your kid hears it is going a bit too far at a football match, I believe. And yes, I like a good old swear, but I’ve raised my 13 year old daughter to know what’s acceptable and what isn’t. I’ve not cosseted her from the world around us, or told other adults how to behave in public in case she hears something naughty.

Perhaps you could explain why repeating swear words your child hears isn’t a good thing? After all, it’s not a lot to ask.

 

[The Crab]

Dear Mr CEO

Thank you for your letter.

Would you like to join Superdraw?


Yours faithfully

Dear Sean,

Thank you for your prompt reply. The Superdraw thing sounds very tempting. I'll consult with one of my shell companies with a view to releasing funds as soon as possible.

Yours Faithfully.

Crab

 

[ucandomagic]

It's all a joke really. I sit right in the middle of the offending area. My neighbour has 2 girls aged about 10 and 13. When they are there I adjust the lyrics to the Fleck and JOC songs appropriately and the girls kill themselves laughing. They have forgotten worse than I will ever know.

This is not about kids and families - this is about some up their own arse director / celebrity who thinks they should be treated like the Queen. If the club had anything about it it would tell them not to come to a proper football club if they don't wish to encounter real football fans.

The Magic is Back - let's keep it.

 

[Sheffsteel]

My view is that there should be a "no swearing" family area which is policed properly. Say the family stand.

However 80% of the ground should be a free for all where swearing is allowed, we have to keep our hostile atmosphere.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I am surprised nobody has reproduced the picture circulated by the club in preparation for the letter - the one at the Norwich game with the distressed little girl, who has been forced by the nasty man near her to hand him her bag of sweets. No doubt threats and foul language were used to force her to do this. It clearly ruined the poor girl's Matchday experience. Can anyone help the club identify the man involved?

I think some of those posting on the Police Update thread will be only too pleased to help

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Good job I sit on the kop.

I can say what the fuck I like.

 

[Linz]

It's fair to say that everyone around me is treating the letter as the joke it is, including the parents of the only children.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Would the club accept a blanket doctor's note stating that the South Stand suffers from Tourette's?

 

[Linz]

Would the club accept a blanket doctor's note stating that the South Stand suffers from Tourette's?

We might have to get "referee-induced Tourette's" recognised first.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

It's an odd one. I would guess that they have had complaints and the letter is to cover themselves in case it goes further so they can say "we did what we could, please don't fine us".
On swearing, there are people who swear well and there are some who can't and should calm it down a bit. I don't need to explain that, do I?

 

[The Crab]

It's an odd one. I would guess that they have had complaints and the letter is to cover themselves in case it goes further so they can say "we did what we could, please don't fine us".
On swearing, there are people who swear well and there are some who can't and should calm it down a bit. I don't need to explain that, do I?

Fucked if I fucking know

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Fucked if I fucking know

You're banned.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

Jurgen needs to fire off warning letters to Norwich for incitement, and referee for stunning imcompetence, before turning on a few fans who , momentarily, expressed a view that they were not too happy with the antics of said team and ref.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Jurgen would better employ his time in getting a good goalkeeper, and a couple of decent centre backs for his ailing Liverpool defence. My posts on the issue of future ground development (see relevant threads) would align with Linz post earlier (post number 23). In short, South Stand development first: more corporate areas, alleviation of segregation problems, moree seats for customers paying South Stand prices.

 

[dingledog]

But the letter seems not to draw a distinction between abuse of people and general bad language.

Don't feel too sorry for visiting managers and players. They give as good as they get and have fished for a reaction more than once. When Wilder came in, the fans were told that we were to create an intimidating atmosphere for visiting teams and I'm sure any opposition manager and players aren't hearing anything they haven't heard before.

I agree with you on the abuse of visiting officials though. I'm sure dingledog has a better view than me but I can honestly say I've never seen a visiting director abused by fans in the stands. The people on our block tend to be longstanding season ticket holders and so are used to the various dignitaries, directors and freeloaders and so I would be surprised if this occurred. I will make an exception for Michael Vaughan if he ever decides to show his face again.

However, if the complaints are about general bad language, I'm afraid a certain amount has to be expected at a football ground and Sheffield United is no better or worse than any other.

I’ve never witnessed Directors being personally abused, I’ve seen people very upset by the performance they have witnessed and mouthing off, but nothing I would call abuse as such. Football supporters are emotional people and sometimes use colourful language that might offend someone at a polite bridge circle, but really where I sit in the South Stand, people are passionate, some swear and shout, but nothing that would stop me taking my 12 year old son.

 

[speedymcgeady]

I once witnessed this Jurgen tell a steward off,humiliating him in front of people queuing for tickets,telling him he wouldn't be standing in his usual position on the tunnel.
A few people started berating Jurgen,and he changed tack , telling Gary " You know it's not me, don't you,I've been told to deliver the message,that's all."
All Gary had done was tell the players "Well done lads, great win" as they left the pitch following David Weir's first game in charge.

 

[Kenilworth]

I love the English language in all it's forms and swearing if used correctly in the right surrondings/context is a wonderful part of the language.

I agree that there should be no swearing in the family stand but, imo, swearing is part and parcel of the passion of football - if you take your child to an area other than the family stand then you should expect to hear a bit of swearing and, trust me, even for a 7 year old it won't be language they don't hear at school on a daily basis.

It will be a sad day for me when I'm banned from football for calling a ref like Darren Deadman, Chris Foy or Stuart Atwell a useless cunt.

I had you down as being older than 7, Beep.


Fair play

 

[Bladepicker]

I had you down as being older than 7, Beep.


Fair play

In my twitter profile pic Ken I'm the little blonde dude stood up

 

[SW12 to S12 to S18]

My view is that there should be a "no swearing" family area which is policed properly. Say the family stand.

However 80% of the ground should be a free for all where swearing is allowed, we have to keep our hostile atmosphere.

Not round my part of the family stand. We've got some right gobby bastards in there and you should hear their parents!

 

[Willie Carlin]

Last nights referee was kidded on for Wolves pen. Never a pen!!! Just can't see why he gave it!!

 

[Bladepicker]

In my twitter profile pic Ken I'm the little blonde dude stood up

Kenilworth being carried by the fat bloke stood up that should have said!

 

[david alan cooper]

Just received this through the post.

Sitting where I do, I could perhaps point out that Mr Warnock taught me all those naughty words and Mr Wilder continues the education

I think perhaps the delicate souls would be more suited to the Family Stand rather than next to the tunnel with the standard of referees we get...

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Having received the same letter from jurgen morton-hall i decided to ring to speak to him today to see why he had sent the letter to me , i was put through to his office to be told he had just left the office and another gentleman asked if he could help with the enquiry, i told him i was disgusted at having received a letter regarding behaviour bad langauage etc etc when i was not in attendance for the Norwich match as i have been ill and whatsmore whilst i do have season ticket at back of dugouts i have only attended 2 matches this season the brentford match and the barnsley match , he said he could only apologise but it would be a logistical nightmare to pinpoint exactly who the culprits was , so i said you send letters out to people that did not attend the match do you to vilify those that are innocent , i said to him i was aware there was controversy surrounding the Norwich match and certain people was allegedly verbally abused , he said yes directors in the directors box was abused and officials , and coaching staff and players , he said people had actually rang in since letters was sent out to give seat numbers of the culprits and as a result those involved will be under close scrutiny with plain clothes police in attendance to observe any bad behaviour etc and the culprits dealt with, he apologised once again and said my receiving the letter was not actually targetting me as an individual , and he hoped i continued my valued support to wich i replied i had intentions of not ever attending any more matches due to the nature of the letter sent , i wonder why i was sent the letter if not been targetted ? seems hypocritical to me and as for having the area under close surveillance for future matches they can do what they wish , i wont be there to be scrutinised , i intend sending letter to kevin mcabe regarding the matter .all the years of renewing season after season and enduring some really bad seasons yet still renewing season ticket religiously and end up getting treat like that with letters sent out regarding behaviour etc at a match i did not attend, am still fuming

 

[Harry's Game]

Absolute Joke of a letter.

There is no place for racist or homophobic abuse in this day and age but otherwise this is a football ground not church,

If an opponent or referee behaves like a twat I am going to call him a twat.

 

[raul]

Looks like Jurgen is due a good few haymakers to the Kidneys.

 

[I should coco]

i intend sending letter to kevin mcabe regarding the matter

Maybe get a keyboard that does capital letters then, if you want him to read it?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Maybe get a keyboard that does capital letters then, if you want him to read it?

That's all you noticed?

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Maybe get a keyboard that does capital letters then, if you want him to read it?

And the odd full stop wouldn't go amiss.

 

[Tyler Durden]

I would hypothesise that anyone who takes such offence to being sworn at is probably a pussyfied cunt who was conceived with poor quality sperm, and should probably fuck off and pursue an interest that better accomodates their delicate sensibilities.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I would hypothesise that anyone who takes such offence to being sworn at is probably a pussyfied cunt who was conceived with poor quality sperm, and should probably fuck off and pursue an interest that better accomodates their delicate sensibilities.

Just because you didn't get a letter......

 

[Dec]

Having received the same letter from jurgen morton-hall i decided to ring to speak to him today to see why he had sent the letter to me , i was put through to his office to be told he had just left the office and another gentleman asked if he could help with the enquiry, i told him i was disgusted at having received a letter regarding behaviour bad langauage etc etc when i was not in attendance for the Norwich match as i have been ill and whatsmore whilst i do have season ticket at back of dugouts i have only attended 2 matches this season the brentford match and the barnsley match , he said he could only apologise but it would be a logistical nightmare to pinpoint exactly who the culprits was , so i said you send letters out to people that did not attend the match do you to vilify those that are innocent , i said to him i was aware there was controversy surrounding the Norwich match and certain people was allegedly verbally abused , he said yes directors in the directors box was abused and officials , and coaching staff and players , he said people had actually rang in since letters was sent out to give seat numbers of the culprits and as a result those involved will be under close scrutiny with plain clothes police in attendance to observe any bad behaviour etc and the culprits dealt with, he apologised once again and said my receiving the letter was not actually targetting me as an individual , and he hoped i continued my valued support to wich i replied i had intentions of not ever attending any more matches due to the nature of the letter sent , i wonder why i was sent the letter if not been targetted ? seems hypocritical to me and as for having the area under close surveillance for future matches they can do what they wish , i wont be there to be scrutinised , i intend sending letter to kevin mcabe regarding the matter .all the years of renewing season after season and enduring some really bad seasons yet still renewing season ticket religiously and end up getting treat like that with letters sent out regarding behaviour etc at a match i did not attend, am still fuming

You're the type to enjoy a 2 week all inclusive holiday only to kick up a fuss on the final day to try and get a discount, threatening an awful TripAdvisor review if not.

Aren't you?