That 'think Liverpool' quote

[1973Blade]

Every transfer window that quote has been misinterpreted by fans unhappy with the lack of big signings.
Yes Jim Phipps did say it in September 2013 after the Prince had become joint owner. The full quote is,
'Think Liverpool rather than Manchester City. The Prince, like Mr McCabe has built a successful business from scratch and there are certain principles that he always adheres too'.
Yes, it wasn't Phipps' greatest quote, as I'm not sure Liverpool in 2013 were a shining example of sensible spending. But he didn't mean that our levels of spending would match Liverpool's, he was trying to dampen the level of expectation!
Next transfer window keep the fax machine jokes, but please no more misinterpretation of the Think Liverpool quote!

 

[Sheffsteel]

I remember when the Prince agreed to invest, Sky Sports were saying he's part of one of the richest families in the world. Everyone was getting excited thinking we'd throw money at it and be able to spend 100 million even when in league 1.

The reply was we wouldn't be like a Man City spending extortionate prices buying our way out of the league. In the context of how our club would be in it would be more like Liverpool, hence the quote "think Liverpool".

Meaning money would be spent but only if there was a business case regards the value of that expenditure.

However my view on this is if we're close to the play-offs in January18 then using that logic then the Prince would be willing to spend millions because improvements in our weak areas might mean promotion back to the PL.

 

[jt64]

Does our scouting network extend as far as Southampton?

 

[BigBed]

I just hope were in the top 15 come may, that'll do for this year.

 

[pommpey]

It's not the 'think Liverpool' quote which pisses people off. It was made by Phipps, a well meaning if footballing naive businessman to placate people asking what the fuck is going on? I think if anyone thought we were going to emulate the bindippers they needed their bumps felt.

It is more the whipped up frenzy of 'game changing investment' when HRH came on board when people were suspicious of what McCabe was up to apropos of fuck all and then a few years later, failure upon failure, manager sacking galore and people again asking when is the big day in the sun for the supporters and he 'clarifies' (i.e. he bullshitted) that we'd have substantial investment when we were promoted. Hey presto, here we are in the Championship (with apparent cash bonuses from sell on clauses and ITK information from WWF that this season's transfer budget is 'substantial') and all we can muster is a jock league centre back, a PL rookie loanee, and an out of favour striker we should have bought three seasons ago when he was good. 20/1 bar. Holding on to current players is irrelevant. It's not a choice thing. It's mandatory. We should be doing this in spite of all other attributes in the transfer period.

Oh, and now, instead of fax machines and 'not managing to get the deal over the line' we are now blaming agents. How original and edifying.

It's not the end of the world, it's no reason for meltdown but it is disappointing. The only thing I have faith in is Wilder will not allow this club to be relegated. I believe in him and most of the players. The board i wouldn't trust to draw a rifle and guard my shit.

pommpey

 

[Bladesthorpe]

It's not the 'think Liverpool' quote which pisses people off. It was made by Phipps, a well meaning if footballing naive businessman to placate people asking what the fuck is going on? I think if anyone thought we were going to emulate the bindippers they needed their bumps felt.

It is more the whipped up frenzy of 'game changing investment' when HRH came on board when people were suspicious of what McCabe was up to apropos of fuck all and then a few years later, failure upon failure, manager sacking galore and.people again asking when is the big day in the sun for the supporters and he 'clarifies' (i.e. he bullshitted) that we'd have substantial investment when we were promoted. Hey presto, here we are in the Championship (with apparent cash bonuses from sell.on clauses and ITK information from WWF that this season's transfer budget is 'substantial') and all we can muster is a jock league centre back, a PL rookie loanee, and an out of favour striker we should have bought three seasons ago when he was good. 20/1 bar.

Oh, and now, instead of fax machines and 'not managing to get the deal over the line' we are now blaming agents. How original and edifying.

It's not the end of the world, it's no reason for meltdown but it is disappointing. The only thing I have faith in is Wilder will not allow this club to be relegated. I believe in him and most of the players. The board i wouldn't trust to draw a rifle and guard my shit.

pommpey

Absolute garbage.

 

[JohnDenver]

It's not the 'think Liverpool' quote which pisses people off. It was made by Phipps, a well meaning if footballing naive businessman to placate people asking what the fuck is going on? I think if anyone thought we were going to emulate the bindippers they needed their bumps felt.

It is more the whipped up frenzy of 'game changing investment' when HRH came on board when people were suspicious of what McCabe was up to apropos of fuck all and then a few years later, failure upon failure, manager sacking galore and people again asking when is the big day in the sun for the supporters and he 'clarifies' (i.e. he bullshitted) that we'd have substantial investment when we were promoted. Hey presto, here we are in the Championship (with apparent cash bonuses from sell on clauses and ITK information from WWF that this season's transfer budget is 'substantial') and all we can muster is a jock league centre back, a PL rookie loanee, and an out of favour striker we should have bought three seasons ago when he was good. 20/1 bar. Holding on to current players is irrelevant. It's not a choice thing. It's mandatory. We should be doing this in spite of all other attributes in the transfer period.

Oh, and now, instead of fax machines and 'not managing to get the deal over the line' we are now blaming agents. How original and edifying.

It's not the end of the world, it's no reason for meltdown but it is disappointing. The only thing I have faith in is Wilder will not allow this club to be relegated. I believe in him and most of the players. The board i wouldn't trust to draw a rifle and guard my shit.

pommpey

But isn't it game changing when compared to the "run at cost" directive McCabe gave Julian Winter just prior to HRH's arrival? That could have seen us relegated again...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Liverpool don't make laugh, them scouse peasants couldn't get Chief Donaldson - we did.

 

[Esablade]

Every transfer window that quote has been misinterpreted by fans unhappy with the lack of big signings.
Yes Jim Phipps did say it in September 2013 after the Prince had become joint owner. The full quote is,
'Think Liverpool rather than Manchester City. The Prince, like Mr McCabe has built a successful business from scratch and there are certain principles that he always adheres too'.
Yes, it wasn't Phipps' greatest quote, as I'm not sure Liverpool in 2013 were a shining example of sensible spending. But he didn't mean that our levels of spending would match Liverpool's, he was trying to dampen the level of expectation!
Next transfer window keep the fax machine jokes, but please no more misinterpretation of the Think Liverpool quote!

All well and good but McCabe reiterated the quote in Feb 2016.

'He revealed that co-owner Prince Abdullah bin Mosaad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud’s ‘game-changing’ investment will not happen until United are in the Championship.'

McCabe said: “It’s been planned to be the case. It hasn’t been the case and I ask you to recognise we’ve got pretty close to the ‘game-changer’ because that comes with a first promotion back to the Championship.”

I believe the interview was to The Star.

An open and shut case IMO.

http://www.viewfromthejohnstreet.co...ltering-league-one-promotion-hopes?format=amp

 

[Bladesman]

It's not the 'think Liverpool' quote which pisses people off. It was made by Phipps, a well meaning if footballing naive businessman to placate people asking what the fuck is going on? I think if anyone thought we were going to emulate the bindippers they needed their bumps felt.

It is more the whipped up frenzy of 'game changing investment' when HRH came on board when people were suspicious of what McCabe was up to apropos of fuck all and then a few years later, failure upon failure, manager sacking galore and people again asking when is the big day in the sun for the supporters and he 'clarifies' (i.e. he bullshitted) that we'd have substantial investment when we were promoted. Hey presto, here we are in the Championship (with apparent cash bonuses from sell on clauses and ITK information from WWF that this season's transfer budget is 'substantial') and all we can muster is a jock league centre back, a PL rookie loanee, and an out of favour striker we should have bought three seasons ago when he was good. 20/1 bar. Holding on to current players is irrelevant. It's not a choice thing. It's mandatory. We should be doing this in spite of all other attributes in the transfer period.

Oh, and now, instead of fax machines and 'not managing to get the deal over the line' we are now blaming agents. How original and edifying.

It's not the end of the world, it's no reason for meltdown but it is disappointing. The only thing I have faith in is Wilder will not allow this club to be relegated. I believe in him and most of the players. The board i wouldn't trust to draw a rifle and guard my shit.

pommpey

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

All well and good but McCabe reiterated the quote in Feb 2016.

'He revealed that co-owner Prince Abdullah bin Mosaad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud’s ‘game-changing’ investment will not happen until United are in the Championship.'

McCabe said: “It’s been planned to be the case. It hasn’t been the case and I ask you to recognise we’ve got pretty close to the ‘game-changer’ because that comes with a first promotion back to the Championship.”

I believe the interview was to The Star.

An open and shut case IMO.

http://www.viewfromthejohnstreet.co...ltering-league-one-promotion-hopes?format=amp

Bloody hell. The first useful post you've made.

 

[Esablade]

Bloody hell. The first useful post you've made.

One more than your good self then.

 

[blade too long]

when he said think liverpool he probably meant Ken Dodd

 

[Bert]

all we can muster is a jock league centre back, a PL rookie loanee, and an out of favour striker we should have bought three seasons ago when he was good.

Bert could have sworn that we'd brought 10 players in during this transfer window.

 

[pommpey]

Bert could have sworn that we'd brought 10 players in during this transfer window.

Yeah, we did.

One from Pompey, one from Oxford, one from Hartlepool ... um ... erm ...

Hardly the expected level of investment, is it Bert?

pommpey

 

[Harrisblade]

Bert could have sworn that we'd brought 10 players in during this transfer window.

What the f*** difference does THAT make to the non-investment brigade?

 

[8lade]

This seems a good place for me to remind everybody once again that:
The prince did not buy into Sheffield United to bankroll it ad infinitum he bought his share as an investment and he did reiterate this at the time in front of the cameras, I hope everybody understands these words.

 

[Isar]

This seems a good place for me to remind everybody once again that:
The prince did not buy into Sheffield United to bankroll it ad infinitum he bought his share as an investment and he did reiterate this at the time in front of the cameras, I hope everybody understands these words.

No, please repeat.

 

[Bladesman]

No, please repeat.

In other words he is helping Kevin keep the lights on.

 

[8lade]

No, please repeat.

I do regularly! Look at the outcry when we don't spend a couple of million on players, imagine what it will be like if we do get to the Prem and Mr McCabe and the Prince (I'd love to give him his full title but can never remember it) decide not to spend the full 100 million on fees and wages.

 

[Bert]

Yeah, we did.

One from Pompey, one from Oxford, one from Hartlepool ... um ... erm ...

Hardly the expected level of investment, is it Bert?

pommpey

It's 7 more than you said we'd got.

 

[Isar]

TBH when I was a kid I started to follow the Blades because when my dad to me to the lane, it excited me, the crowd the noise etc, these days kids want to support the club that spends the most money, with the quietest crowd. I would rather support a CW style club. If we ever turned into man city I just would give it all up.
In the trendy days of today, some of our fans have reverted to the kids of today.

 

[pommpey]

It's 7 more than you said we'd got.

And hardly the expected level of investment, I'm sure Bert would agree?

Or does he have another explanation?

pommpey

 

[Bert]

And hardly the expected level of investment, I'm sure Bert would agree?

Or does he have another explanation?

pommpey

Ten lots of wages, agents fees, signing on fees, transfer fees (in some cases).
It looks like a lot of money spent to Bert.

 

[pommpey]

Ten lots of wages, agents fees, signing on fees, transfer fees (in some cases).
It looks like a lot of money spent to Bert.

No 'real figures' though.

For all Bert knows, the balance between value on the pitch and 'making up the numbers' could be quite significant, Yeah?

pommpey

 

[SUFC Guy]

For a start I'm sure the prince's investment was to clear the large debt that we had. He then bank rolled 2 or 3 failed manager projects. Didn't him and McCabe put £14m in each in the first 2 or 3 years of the joint partnership?

Now I know the think Liverpool statement is the be all and end for the club bashers but now we have a PROPER management team, they feel that we can be successful on a far less budget and actually have a game plan on sensible recruitment rather than just spunkin monneh.
Let's see where we are in Jan and if we need that mega money push (I'm not convinced that we will btw) then I'm sure that we will see attempts at spending it.
But agenda wise guys, in the meantime, fill yer boots

 

[Pollingtonblade]

The investment will now be in January.

Jam tomorrow

 

[pommpey]

The investment will now be in January.

Jam tomorrow

Yeah. As promised. And the budget, don't forget, is 'substantial'.

pommpey

 

[pommpey]

Absolute garbage.

Cheers Kev

X

pommpey

 

[Revolution]

The investment will now be in January.

Jam tomorrow

There were clear, unambiguous "jam tomorrow" statements over the last 4 years that indicated that our spending would rise significantly after we were promoted.

Whilst we have spent this window, only someone who was being deliberately obtuse and/or always defends the club at all costs Would argue that the spending now lives up to the promises that were made. It is nowhere near what many teams in the division have spent and that was what was implied.

The owners simply don't have (or less likely, won't spend) the money they promised. Sure, they backed Wilder as needed last season, and they've spent this year, and credit to them, but they have not done what they said they'd do and I am at a loss as to why people pretend otherwise.

And I say all this whilst being basically fine with what's been done this window. At least the good players are all still here for once.