CONFIRMED John Brayford - Contract Mutually Terminated

[mancunianblade]

Yes I think he was playing regular for Cardiff and was surprised we could afford him.

Guess you could say he was frozen out when they were in the PL that's how the Loan came about didn't it? Then they got relegated and he went back and regained his position?

 

[Bullet73]

If you want to earn some money from the bookies, get your money on the beard been sold

 

[Houso]

The only detriment to keeping Brayford would be to our bank balance IMO. He offers an excellent option on the right (despite being realistically third choice) and I also think he'd be potentially very good on the right side of a central three.

Problem is, it's daft to keep a player on his wages as backup.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

If you want to earn some money from the bookies, get your money on the beard been sold

As he's on the list don't expect great if any odds !

You got the inside track???

 

[Balham]

The only detriment to keeping Brayford would be to our bank balance IMO. He offers an excellent option on the right (despite being realistically third choice) and I also think he'd be potentially very good on the right side of a central three.

Problem is, it's daft to keep a player on his wages as backup.

It is daft but only if there's a realistic option to offload him. The only suitors are FLN's Burton Albion who seem to think they can get him on the cheap. I'd rather we kept him on full wages than sent him to Burton but carried on paying 75% which is probably what Clough is asking for.

 

[BigBed]

As he's on the list don't expect great if any odds !

You got the inside track???

Remember that certain other players were on that very list at this point last season, and without them, not sure we'd be starting a championship season this year!! Time to change things yet......

 

[Fanny magnet]

The only detriment to keeping Brayford would be to our bank balance IMO. He offers an excellent option on the right (despite being realistically third choice) and I also think he'd be potentially very good on the right side of a central three.

Problem is, it's daft to keep a player on his wages as backup.

Bit sad that though isn't it ?
Not like he is on 45k a week and scared to take penaltys
Clearest indication yet of where our budget is if we can't afford to keep a player on what ?15k a week ?

We are basically back where we were under Warnock
Hope wilder gets to a stage where he can wheel and deal enough to be trusted with the money like captain marvel was

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

Remember that certain other players were on that very list at this point last season, and without them, not sure we'd be starting a championship season this year!! Time to change things yet......

I meant not great odds from bookies to be sold as on list! Not advocating sale, unless he's unsettleing the squad ( which I doubt).

 

[BigBed]

He will be pocketing the wage happily, you've got to wonder what's going through the other lads heads though, being on around half his wage!!?

 

[Jackson Blade]

Source close to The Beard himself.... APPARENTLY he's staying, and Wilder has been especially impressed with his attitude in light of being told he can go. He's doing a Coutts/Freeman of last year by all accounts.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Source close to The Beard himself.... APPARENTLY he's staying, and Wilder has been especially impressed with his attitude in light of being told he can go. He's doing a Coutts/Freeman of last year by all accounts.

I really hope this is true

 

[FTPE]

Source close to The Beard himself.... APPARENTLY he's staying, and Wilder has been especially impressed with his attitude in light of being told he can go. He's doing a Coutts/Freeman of last year by all accounts.

What if he wanted to stay all along?
What if his reluctancy to player under Adkins and his high wages were the only reason wilder ever said he could leave?
Brayford could be more derermined than ever and Wilder might love the bloke.
This could be huge if its true because we go on about Championship experience and class? Well he has both.

 

[Jon P]

Never doubted him for one second. UTB

 

[itsinyerblood]

He will be pocketing the wage happily, you've got to wonder what's going through the other lads heads though, being on around half his wage!!?

It's not complicated. Of course he'll accept his wage, wouldn't you? Context is everything, so when Brayford came to the Blades it was on a reduced wage and a reputation that he delivered on, repeatedly. The fact that he went to another team, had injury problems, and a fair bit of criticism came Brayford's way (unfairly in my view), well it's behind Brayford now, and all we can expect is a player dedicated to the cause, which, from reports, he seems to be giving his best.

Cut the guy some slack, if he performs, when given the chance, then I hope we'll see something of the player who first came here. Would be welcome from everyone who shouts "COYRAWW'S", which should include everyone who posts on this forum.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Source close to The Beard himself.... APPARENTLY he's staying, and Wilder has been especially impressed with his attitude in light of being told he can go. He's doing a Coutts/Freeman of last year by all accounts.

Hope this is true, as I don't think there are many better players out there to compete for the back three that are within our price range.

Unless there was something wrong with his attitude last year (and is his time here I've never seen him give less than 100%) then I'm pretty sure it was getting his wages off the books that played the biggest part in his exit.

Wilders biggest strength has been getting those that want to work working for him and the the team. He doesn't hold grudges and the door is always open, as he proved last year with coutts and freeman. If Brayford has come back ready to give it one last shot then I'm sure wilder would be open to that - he proved it with o'tool at Northampton who came in as a key signing didn't do what was required and fell out of favour but worked his way back into wilders plans.

My view is that we might be better off putting the money we could save on defence and splashing out on an attacking player perhaps a level up from what we might otherwise afford. But I guess that could depend of if the Blackburn can deal looks completable.

 

[Th!stledo]

It's not complicated. Of course he'll accept his wage, wouldn't you? Context is everything, so when Brayford came to the Blades it was on a reduced wage and a reputation that he delivered on, repeatedly. The fact that he went to another team, had injury problems, and a fair bit of criticism came Brayford's way (unfairly in my view), well it's behind Brayford now, and all we can expect is a player dedicated to the cause, which, from reports, he seems to be giving his best.

Cut the guy some slack, if he performs, when given the chance, then I hope we'll see something of the player who first came here. Would be welcome from everyone who shouts "COYRAWW'S", which should include everyone who posts on this forum.

Totally agree with the points you have made about Brayford. He has proven it is never all about the money for him. If we were heavily subsidising his wages at Burton then loaning him out to save money does not make much sense either. Unless there are other issues that we have not been made aware off I see no reason to stop respecting the guy.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Totally agree with the points you have made about Brayford. He has proven it is never all about the money for him. If we were heavily subsidising his wages at Burton then loaning him out to save money does not make much sense either. Unless there are other issues that we have not been made aware off I see no reason to stop respecting the guy.

Quite right mate, JB's a decent player and surely that's what we want at United, isn't it?

If Wilder decides that Brayford has a role to play, then I trust his judgement in giving Brayford the opportunity to help us this season.

 

[BigBed]

It's not complicated. Of course he'll accept his wage, wouldn't you? Context is everything, so when Brayford came to the Blades it was on a reduced wage and a reputation that he delivered on, repeatedly. The fact that he went to another team, had injury problems, and a fair bit of criticism came Brayford's way (unfairly in my view), well it's behind Brayford now, and all we can expect is a player dedicated to the cause, which, from reports, he seems to be giving his best.

Cut the guy some slack, if he performs, when given the chance, then I hope we'll see something of the player who first came here. Would be welcome from everyone who shouts "COYRAWW'S", which should include everyone who posts on this forum.

Hold on a minute pal, I'm a Brayford fan, I'm just answering directed posts!
I'd like to see him back in the first 11, whether that's possible is down to him, and if you care to read my previous responses, you may find that, I was referring to the listed players from last year, that fought and played their way into favour, and, had they not done, we wouldn't have romped the league the way we did!!
Brayford will pocket a healthy pay packet no matter what happens, that's his deal, doesn't matter what any of us think!, I was just pointing out, that the only negative in the whole situation could possibly be the pay deals others receive.

 

[madeinsheffield]

He might be costing us, but you can't blame JB for that, he came wanting to play for us, then fell in love with the club and us lot.

If he does work hard and gets in the first team it will be like signing a new player, he is quality and if his attitude is right and he supports the Wilder way of playing, he's a great asset for us

 

[itsinyerblood]

Hold on a minute pal, I'm a Brayford fan, I'm just answering directed posts!
I'd like to see him back in the first 11, whether that's possible is down to him, and if you care to read my previous responses, you may find that, I was referring to the listed players from last year, that fought and played their way into favour, and, had they not done, we wouldn't have romped the league the way we did!!
Brayford will pocket a healthy pay packet no matter what happens, that's his deal, doesn't matter what any of us think!, I was just pointing out, that the only negative in the whole situation could possibly be the pay deals others receive.

It's the way it is, can't change it, so let's just get on with what matters and that's doing our best on the pitch, hope you agree with that.

I get your point but whether it does or doesn't cause a problem, I doubt it's any more troublesome than having Evans in the squad, or any other player whose existence might prove to be a problem.

I think that if Brayford gets his chance I hope we'll all agree he's a player we all want to do well for us. If that's not possible then Wilder won't play him, it's that simple. As for the size of JB's wage, well it is what it is. Any suggestions for ensuring that this won't be a problem? It was agreed during a period we'd all prefer to move on from, so I doubt your pessimism will rear it's head. Just my opinion you understand. I'm one of those who think that footballers are grownups bright enough to put two and two together, so personally I don't anticipate the type of problem you're suggesting.

 

[northsomersetblade]

What's going to happen to Freeman if Brayford comes in from the cold?

 

[Ranmoorblade]

What's going to happen to Freeman if Brayford comes in from the cold?

I wouldn't think Freeman's place would be at risk from Brayford. Brayford will be playing for a place in the back three.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I wouldn't think Freeman's place would be at risk from Brayford. Brayford will be playing for a place in the back three.

I agree – and Freeman already has good competition for his place anyway. From what I've heard from Burton fans, Brayford's appearances in the back three rather than at wingback was partly to plug a gap at the back, but also partly due to his knee injuries making this a more suitable position for him than wingback. I would have happily seen him go this summer, and I'm still not convinced Wilder will keep him, but in the event no more centre-halves are signed being back-up for the right-sided centre-half would be no bad thing.

 

[BigBed]

It's the way it is, can't change it, so let's just get on with what matters and that's doing our best on the pitch, hope you agree with that.

I get your point but whether it does or doesn't cause a problem, I doubt it's any more troublesome than having Evans in the squad, or any other player whose existence might prove to be a problem.



I think that if Brayford gets his chance I hope we'll all agree he's a player we all want to do well for us. If that's not possible then Wilder won't play him, it's that simple. As for the size of JB's wage, well it is what it is. Any suggestions for ensuring that this won't be a problem? It was agreed during a period we'd all prefer to move on from, so I doubt your pessimism will rear it's head. Just my opinion you understand. I'm one of those who think that footballers are grownups bright enough to put two and two together, so personally I don't anticipate the type of problem you're suggesting.

Why do you suggest that "having Evans in the squad" would possibly cause any problem??

Also, I am not suggesting there will be any problems, I was merely highlighting the only feesable issue I could envisage.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Why do you suggest that "having Evans in the squad" would possibly cause any problem??

Also, I am not suggesting there will be any problems, I was merely highlighting the only feesable issue I could envisage.

Footballers are human, it therefore follows that they can show fragility, even moral high-handedness. Even though Evans is no longer caught up in what was a self-created problem, there may be one or two players who choose to continue their view that he acted in a way that they find unpalatable.

I'm glad you've been able to differentiate between a 'problem' and an 'issue'.

 

[BigBed]

Evans had sex with a girl, who falsely accused him of rape and he has been proved to be innocent of said action by a court of law.
So actually he's just had sex with a girl.
Why would anybody that isn't a narrow minded biggot have any problem with that??
I'm sure, unless any of them are gay, that they've all had sex with a girl at some point or another.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Evans had sex with a girl, who falsely accused him of rape and he has been proved to be innocent of said action by a court of law.
So actually he's just had sex with a girl.
Why would anybody that isn't a narrow minded biggot have any problem with that??
I'm sure, unless any of them are gay, that they've all had sex with a girl at some point or another.

You've actually touched upon the nub of this, that bigots do or don't exist within the ranks of professional footballers. As you've brought the question of being gay into this, given the number of professional footballers, why do you think that so few of their number prefer to stay in the closet rather than admit they're gay? You've painted a picture that bigotry isn't an issue within football. That suggests that football exists in a bubble that's not affected by the world we all live in.

As for the issue of Evans, I know Blades who still consider his behaviour reprehensible and a contributory factor in why this went to trial, therefore I can imagine that there might be footballers who share this opinion. It may not be right, but since when did that mean it was right?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Evans had sex with a girl, who falsely accused him of rape and he has been proved to be innocent of said action by a court of law.
So actually he's just had sex with a girl.
Why would anybody that isn't a narrow minded biggot have any problem with that??
I'm sure, unless any of them are gay, that they've all had sex with a girl at some point or another.

She didn't accuse him.

 

[wizadry]

Evans had sex with a girl, who falsely accused him of rape and he has been proved to be innocent of said action by a court of law.
So actually he's just had sex with a girl.
Why would anybody that isn't a narrow minded biggot have any problem with that??
I'm sure, unless any of them are gay, that they've all had sex with a girl at some point or another.

She didn't accuse him.

Not this shit again!

 

[BigBed]

You've actually touched upon the nub of this, that bigots do or don't exist within the ranks of professional footballers. As you've brought the question of being gay into this, given the number of professional footballers, why do you think that so few of their number prefer to stay in the closet rather than admit they're gay? You've painted a picture that bigotry isn't an issue within football. That suggests that football exists in a bubble that's not affected by the world we all live in.

As for the issue of Evans, I know Blades who still consider his behaviour reprehensible and a contributory factor in why this went to trial, therefore I can imagine that there might be footballers who share this opinion. It may not be right, but since when did that mean it was right?

Your taking this out of context, I was merely pointing out that people shouldn't be judged, I'm all for everyone getting a fair crack, I was not attempting to paint any pictures, just belive that people shouldnt be judged, especially if they've been found innocent of any wrong doing. The guys had it hard enough already, time to let him be and stop raking up the past.