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[wesleysnipesmen]

Hanson's time has been and gone. That type of player has been and gone in the championship. Look at Nuhiu at pigs, nothing but a figure to laugh at for them. As bad a goal return as Hanson for us.

It's not a coincidence that players like that don't have good goal returns, because that's not their sole purpose or what their manager is judging them on. It's the different threat they pose to defences and they often end up indirectly allowing the players around them score more. It's not as simple as saying if you're a striker you must score at least 10-15 or you're wank.
If you want a player who does all what Hanson does as well as being a good finisher, quick, etc, then you'll have a hard time finding one outside the top divisions.

 

[Fanny magnet]

Yeah but the office in the corner, that's pulling in enough to cover everything. Plus can I mention the "freehold" and "Desso". What more evidence do you need?

Think you've got your timescales askew

 

[Slim Man]

Funny how our manager doesn't think so ,do you know more than him ?

Dear me. Me thinking Hanson will be useless in this division means I think I know better than Wilder.

What a ****.

 

[Slim Man]

It's not a coincidence that players like that don't have good goal returns, because that's not their sole purpose or what their manager is judging them on. It's the different threat they pose to defences and they often end up indirectly allowing the players around them score more. It's not as simple as saying if you're a striker you must score at least 10-15 or you're wank.
If you want a player who does all what Hanson does as well as being a good finisher, quick, etc, then you'll have a hard time finding one outside the top divisions.

He does nothing but commit fouls. Pretty good aerially. That's about it.

 

[Jon P]

Funny how our manager doesn't think so ,do you know more than him ?

Haha that's the last word for me. I just think people are bored of pre-season now!

 

[mancunianblade]

We bought Deane for 1.5m and sold him for 1m. We bought Fjortoft for 700,000 and sold him for 800,000. I think that's right??

Always found the Beattie situation tip top business. Pay £4m scores a hat full sell him for less than we paid.

 

[spongebobblade]

Hanson's time has been and gone. That type of player has been and gone in the championship. Look at Nuhiu at pigs, nothing but a figure to laugh at for them. As bad a goal return as Hanson for us.

Yet Nuhui regularly came off the bench for the pigs last season. It's not just goals that a big man brings to the side. When under pressure or defending a lead with minimal time left, a player like Hanson can hold the ball up front or defend corners. Like Done he may never be prolific or first choice but some are too narrow minded and look purely at goal stats without realising their overall contribution. He had a few assists as well last year, the superb header back for Sharps last minute winner at Peterborough to name just one. He's no world beater but as SBT said, will play a part at some stage unless we sign a better striker of a similar statue

 

[Fanny magnet]

Dear me. Me thinking Hanson will be useless in this division means I think I know better than Wilder.

What a ****.

don't be so hard on yerself lad
Just be thankful you got there in the end

 

[Houso]

Dear me. Me thinking Hanson will be useless in this division means I think I know better than Wilder.

What a ****.

Thing is Danny, it's all very well having an opinion that differs from Wilders, but you're dealing in definitives. You never post along the lines of "I personally don't think Hanson is good enough. But Chris Wilder trusts him and his judgement is very rarely off. So I'll give him a chance."

It's all "Hanson is shit and not good enough at this level." So you're logically saying Wilder is wrong and you know better. There's no grey area there.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

A poster has been slagging the club off for weeks for not bidding more money for Leonard and Holmes.
After our fantastic win at Malaga he's re-emerged to abuse James Hanson.
He must be fun to live with.

 

[BigBed]

No need for that!

"Hammond!"

 

[Slim Man]

A poster has been slagging the club off for weeks for not bidding more money for Leonard and Holmes.
After our fantastic win at Malaga he's re-emerged to abuse James Hanson.
He must be fun to live with.

Yawn.

Not really slagging the club off. And 're emerged' would imply that I ever disappeared... forgot we weren't allowed an opinion on a player. If you think Hanson is good enough fair enough - I'm happy enough to revisit this in January when we all decide he isn't good enough.

He was a good but short sighted signing for league one for me. End of story as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Ricky]

All this 'Wilder disagrees' stuff..... we don't know what Wilder makes of Hanson as a Championship player yet. He could well barely get a minute on the pitch.

I saw Hanson as an insurance policy to get us up, but not someone who'd feature much in the Championship. And he served his purpose, he did help get us up, but I'd be disappointed to see him start a game next season.

As I previously suggested, it's hard to see where he'd get in the squad, for example....

Moore
Basham - Stearman - O'Connell
Freeman - Coutts - Fleck - Stevens
Duffy
Sharp - Clarke

Subs:
1. GK
2. New CB/Basham
3. Baldock/Freeman/Lafferty
4. New CM/Coutts
5. Carruthers/Duffy/New AMF
6. Lavery/Brooks
7. Evans/Thomas

The first 5 places on the bench are basically guaranteed, with at least one of Evans/Lavery also there if available and then there are the other attacking midfielders to fit in.

Then there's possibly the likes of Wright, Lafferty, Thomas, Brooks and the new AMF not even in the squad.

Where does that leave Hanson?

 

[Boxer Blade]

All this 'Wilder disagrees' stuff..... we don't know what Wilder makes of Hanson as a Championship player yet. He could well barely get a minute on the pitch.

I saw Hanson as an insurance policy to get us up, but not someone who'd feature much in the Championship. And he served his purpose, he did help get us up, but I'd be disappointed to see him start a game next season.

As I previously suggested, it's hard to see where he'd get in the squad, for example....

Moore
Basham - Stearman - O'Connell
Freeman - Coutts - Fleck - Stevens
Duffy
Sharp - Clarke

Subs:
1. GK
2. New CB/Basham
3. Baldock/Freeman/Lafferty
4. New CM/Coutts
5. Carruthers/Duffy/New AMF
6. Lavery/Brooks
7. Evans/Thomas

The first 5 places on the bench are basically guaranteed, with at least one of Evans/Lavery also there if available and then there are the other attacking midfielders to fit in.

Then there's possibly the likes of Wright, Lafferty, Thomas, Brooks and the new AMF not even in the squad.

Where does that leave Hanson?

Still a possibility of another striker coming as well

 

[Dec]

All this 'Wilder disagrees' stuff..... we don't know what Wilder makes of Hanson as a Championship player yet. He could well barely get a minute on the pitch.

I saw Hanson as an insurance policy to get us up, but not someone who'd feature much in the Championship. And he served his purpose, he did help get us up, but I'd be disappointed to see him start a game next season.

As I previously suggested, it's hard to see where he'd get in the squad, for example....

Moore
Basham - Stearman - O'Connell
Freeman - Coutts - Fleck - Stevens
Duffy
Sharp - Clarke

Subs:
1. GK
2. New CB/Basham
3. Baldock/Freeman/Lafferty
4. New CM/Coutts
5. Carruthers/Duffy/New AMF
6. Lavery/Brooks
7. Evans/Thomas

The first 5 places on the bench are basically guaranteed, with at least one of Evans/Lavery also there if available and then there are the other attacking midfielders to fit in.

Then there's possibly the likes of Wright, Lafferty, Thomas, Brooks and the new AMF not even in the squad.

Where does that leave Hanson?

For certain games such as Burton at home where Nige is likely to set up 2 banks of 5, Hanson could feature on the bench or even from the start.

Other games he won't be in the matchday squad, like you say.

There will also be games where Brooks won't get a look in. That doesn't mean he's pointless to the upcoming campaign.

 

[Ricky]

For certain games such as Burton at home where Nige is likely to set up 2 banks of 5, Hanson could feature on the bench or even from the start.

Other games he won't be in the matxhday squad, like you say.

There will also be games where Brooks won't get a look in. That doesn't mean he's pointless to the upcoming campaign.

I see a lot of rotation next season, especially with the subs.

We're building a strong squad with no deadwood whatsoever, we'll have to keep everyone involved.

 

[Dec]

I see a lot of rotation next season, especially with the subs.

We're building a strong squad with no deadwood whatsoever, we'll have to keep everyone involved.

I think compared to some of the other Championship clubs (Wolves, Pigs), we have a really healthy squad size now. The players that are out of the picture aren't ones that can feel too hard done by so it won't create a toxic atmosphere.

 

[Maidenhead]

He was a good signing for League one to give us another option but it was a big short sighted, if he starts a game in this league it'll mean we've had an absolute injury crisis or our recruitment hasn't been anywhere near good enough upfront.

He scored 1 goal from January onwards. He is nowhere near championship level.

Him and Done would make a good partnership for someone in that league though. Not many goals though.

Or Wilder thinks he's better than many experts on here give him credit for

 

[Bladeinleeds]

I see a lot of rotation next season, especially with the subs.

We're building a strong squad with no deadwood whatsoever, we'll have to keep everyone involved.

Agree with this.

Our work so far has been to tidy up the squad. We have filled some problem holes and got rid of most of the deadwood. Now in a position were the bench looks much stronger and we have decent competition all around (baring GK atm)

There will be people who can count themselves unfortunate not to be in the squad - we couldn't necessarily say that last year.

 

[highgreenintokyo]

Couldn't be more wrong.
We paid 40k for Deane and sold him for £2.9m. Not sure on Jan-Age so not guessing.

There was a poster implying earlier that the Deane and Fjortoft money was enough to keep the club afloat for 20-25 years, and that any money taken after that was just profit in McCabe's pocket. I assumed he was talking about when we sold them both (Deano's second spell) pretty much on the same day. Notwithstanding that as far as I'm aware McCabe was nowhere near the club in 1997, I was trying to point out that the poster's point was a bit flawed, financially speaking. He may have been totally sarcastic and I completely missed his point, though, just like you have with mine! Sometimes I wish this forum was in the pub! Would be a lot easier...

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Wrong.
We sold them back to back during Deanes first spell. He wasn't worth 10p after his second.
Sorry but your posts are very confusing.

 

[Slim Man]

I see a lot of rotation next season, especially with the subs.

We're building a strong squad with no deadwood whatsoever, we'll have to keep everyone involved.

I agree. But Hanson shouldn't even be plan F for me. He simply ain't good enough, I'd like us to sign a Hanson type with footballing ability and possibly goals too. Daryl Murphy anyone?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Agree with this.

Our work so far has been to tidy up the squad. We have filled some problem holes and got rid of most of the deadwood. Now in a position were the bench looks much stronger and we have decent competition all around (baring GK atm)

There will be people who can count themselves unfortunate not to be in the squad - we couldn't necessarily say that last year.

And we certainly couldn't the year before!

 

[Pollingtonblade]

I agree. But Hanson shouldn't even be plan F for me. He simply ain't good enough, I'd like us to sign a Hanson type with footballing ability and possibly goals too. Daryl Murphy anyone?

Don't you like Hanson?

 

[MobileBlade]

Wrong.
We sold them back to back during Deanes first spell. He wasn't worth 10p after his second.
Sorry but your posts are very confusing.

Wrong. We sold them back to back in his second spell. He wasn't worth10p after his third.

 

[Slim Man]

Don't you like Hanson?

I've got his name on the back of my purple away top for this season.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Wrong. We sold them back to back in his second spell. He wasn't worth10p after his third.

Indeed. I believe under McCabe's direct stewardship we signed Deane for £0, and then he left a few months later for £0. Top business.

 

[Houston_Blade]

There is more chance of us resigning Connor Sammon back than Mcabe releasing the 4 million from Kyle into the transfer kitty.

It will go into the same place as the 30 odd million from West Ham did.

Wages and running costs?

 

[blade too long]

We could certainly use another 4 to 6 in to cover the pace lacking disappointing bunch who let us down so badly last season
we cant let sentiment decide who plays , just let some of our fans select random expensive players with no commitment but cost a lot of money come in to improve us
lets emulate wednesday and pay 9m out for a player not prepared to put his hand up

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Wrong. We sold them back to back in his second spell. He wasn't worth10p after his third.

Thanks for the correction. Forgot about his 3rd. Unsurprisingly.