Incoming? Jackson Irvine

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SteveBlade said:
Yep. If we're going to get rinsed for a million for Leonard we may as well pay a bit more for tried and tested.

Would have thought a few will be after Irvine though, and if Derby are interested... wages.

Would be a great signing.
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He's nearly a year younger than Leonard too.

I think Leonard would be a good signing, and that we'd probably pay closer to 500k than £1m for him, but if we signed Irvine we'd be guaranteeing ourselves an excellent midfield with a bit of everything.

If he can perform as he did for FLN in a limited Burton team, how well could he do for us? He's already worth more than £2m. If he replicated or improved last season's form playing for us then he'd increase in value even more, probably to more than £5m.

Perfect example of speculating to accumulate, and one who'd be a low risk investment at that price. If we are to make a couple of big signings this summer then I can't think of a better one than Irvine.

It will be hard to sign him though, a lot of clubs will want him, especially at that price.
 

Ricky said:
He's nearly a year younger than Leonard too.

I think Leonard would be a good signing, and that we'd probably pay closer to 500k than £1m for him, but if we signed Irvine we'd be guaranteeing ourselves an excellent midfield with a bit of everything.

If he can perform as he did for FLN in a limited Burton team, how well could he do for us? He's already worth more than £2m. If he replicated or improved last season's form playing for us then he'd increase in value even more, probably to more than £5m.

Perfect example of speculating to accumulate, and one who'd be a low risk investment at that price. If we are to make a couple of big signings this summer then I can't think of a better one than Irvine.

It will be hard to sign him though, a lot of clubs will want him, especially at that price.
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There's no way we'll be spending this sort of money, based on our acquisitions so far. Leonard is more realistic.
 
Booker4 said:
There's no way we'll be spending this sort of money, based on our acquisitions so far. Leonard is more realistic.
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There have been suggestions that we might spend a bit. And there's the probable £5m+ from Walker and Maguire.

Value is value, whether it's 200k or £2m. Hopefully the club are willing to pay the odd big fee is it's worth it. Refusing to do so (relatively) is a big reason we stayed in L1 so long.
 
Spend it.
Not only would he be my number 1 one target but hes young and would really complement Fleck.
 
Booker4 said:
There's no way we'll be spending this sort of money, based on our acquisitions so far. Leonard is more realistic.
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I would argue the opposite

It's because of what we have appeared to have spent so far that I feel there's still a wedge in the kitty to bring a higher value player or two

Bearing in mind there will be a considerable amount going into the coffers when KW and HM depart to pastures new, I think we are comfortable financially at the moment
 
Blade58 said:
I would argue the opposite

It's based on what we have appeared to have spent so far that I feel there's still a wedge in the kitty to bring a higher value player or two

Bearing in mind there will be a considerable amount going into the coffers when KW and HM depart to pastures new, I think we are comfortable financially at the moment
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You might both be right but listening to Wilder's interviews thus far regarding spending when he said that he knows we'll have to spend more to mount a serious promotion charge in the future, that tells me, along with the signings so far, that we are not spending big on a player. I might be totally wrong but that's my guess, and that's all we can do right now. If Walker and Maguire go then maybe that changes.
 
Also, and I'm not trying to be pessimistic here, I can see Irvine wanting to go to a club that has recently pushed for promotion as opposed to us, as we've only just got promotion and are therefore somewhat of an unknown. Derby git that bill better than we do - on paper, and that's all you can go on until the season starts.
 
Booker4 said:
You might both be right but listening to Wilder's interviews thus far regarding spending when he said that he knows we'll have to spend more to mount a serious promotion charge in the future, that tells me, along with the signings so far, that we are not spending big on a player. I might be totally wrong but that's my guess, and that's all we can do right now. If Walker and Maguire go then maybe that changes.
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he's also said he won't put the clubs finances in jeopardy or spend irresponsibly. However, it's all relative to what the two owners have chucked into the transfer kitty.

I read somewhere that KM stated we will have a top half budget. To me that means there should be enough to make at least one higher value signing. Again, backed up with extra revenue brought in due to sell on clauses
 
Blade58 said:
he's also said he won't put the clubs finances in jeopardy or spend irresponsibly. However, it's all relative to what the two owners have chucked into the transfer kitty.

I read somewhere that KM stated we will have a top half budget. To me that means there should be enough to make at least one higher value signing. Again, backed up with extra revenue brought in due to sell on clauses
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McCabe could be referring to wages, but I hope you're right and I'm wrong. But, if we don't spend big on one player then I still think we're going to have a decent season, as we have an amazing manager, who can also spot gems for much less money than what they are worth, once Wilder gets them playing well. Its the opposite transfer philosophy to what they do at S6!
 
nopigfansintown said:
Cash plus Brayford. This kids worth 2 million, a proper box to box midfielder.
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I agree he would be a great signing. Saw him at the NYS when Burton played Rotherham

Not sure it is realistic though, not so much due to the fee (reported £2m relaese clause), but because I feel there would be a Dutch auction regards his wages and we are not in the same league financially as clubs such Derby etc.

I'm pretty sure he will be a player in demand this summer
 
Blade58 said:
I agree he would be a great signing. Saw him at the NYS when Burton played Rotherham

Not sure it is realistic though, not so much due to the fee (reported £2m relaese clause), but because I feel there would be a Dutch auction regards his wages and we are not in the same league financially as clubs such Derby etc.

I'm pretty sure he will be a player in demand this summer
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You're probably right. We'd have to get in first, and hope he chose the chance to play and a decent pay rise over the big bucks and possibly less game time..
 
Until we are an established mid table / higher championship team again signings like this are beyond us...

Not fee wise but wages and players with promotion aspirations aren't likely to chose us just yet
 
ben1987 said:
Until we are an established mid table / higher championship team again signings like this are beyond us...

Not fee wise but wages and players with promotion aspirations aren't likely to chose us just yet
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I agree here but I hope I'm wrong. Its the equivalent of us getting promoted to the Premier League and then been able to buy the best player from Swansea. It wouldn't happen would it, because players from clubs that are already there want to move onto bigger clubs that are established. Now if we had big bucks like Newcastle do, then you can see that happening but I don't see is having a budget bigger than most in this league, even if McCabe says it will be top half.
 

Having Bradford as a bargaining chip could potentially help us out here.

He presumable won't be on huge wages at burton but suspect we could still be blow out of the water by an established team - that's just they way things are.

Having said that derby have loads of central misfielders. We only have coutts and fleck so he will be coming here to be a regular.
 
I think it's more realistic that should we use Brayford as a bargaining chip for a Burton Albion player it'll be a swap for McFadzean.
 
Jesus_was_a_Blade said:
Brayford + £500k, come on Nigel you know it makes sense...
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I wonder, what odds would I get if the above happens that burton use that money to buy Ryan Leonard as Irvine's replacement and then next season they sell him for 10mil?
 
Bladeinleeds said:
Having Bradford as a bargaining chip could potentially help us out here.

He presumable won't be on huge wages at burton but suspect we could still be blow out of the water by an established team - that's just they way things are.

Having said that derby have loads of central misfielders. We only have coutts and fleck so he will be coming here to be a regular.
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You're cutting our midfield options in half - what about Duffy and Carruthers? We're in good shape where this part of the team is concerned. It doesn't mean we shouldn't look to strengthen, but right now any players we bring in should be considered as strong contenders to start.

And who is this mystery player Bradford? Seriously, if Brayford is no longer a part of Wilder's plans then we should be able to get a decent fee to add to our existing budget.
 
Derby will pay big wages, the likes of Ince are reportedly on well over 20k per week. We won't even come close in matching those type of numbers. So where will he go, a side that's been there or thereabouts around the play offs the last 3 seasons and will pay him big money or a newly promoted team who will pay him half what Derby will ? It's not rocket science is it ?
 
As long as it is not Jackson Pollock it will be fine. We can only go from strength to strength
 
Every time this Louis Hobbs lad posts his articles he gets roasted.

I always find myself conflicted with emotions.
 
SteveBlade said:
Every time this Louis Hobbs lad posts his articles he gets roasted.

I always find myself conflicted with emotions.
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Think the use of the word roasted and young Hobbs in the same sentence could lend itself to any homo-erotic scenario you can imagine Steve....

Butch up a little where Louis is concerned, he's old enough to take whatever stick is floating about.
 
Wilder has already said
Booker4 said:
I agree here but I hope I'm wrong. Its the equivalent of us getting promoted to the Premier League and then been able to buy the best player from Swansea. It wouldn't happen would it, because players from clubs that are already there want to move onto bigger clubs that are established. Now if we had big bucks like Newcastle do, then you can see that happening but I don't see is having a budget bigger than most in this league, even if McCabe says it will be top half.
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Wilder has already stated he only wants players who want to play for the club and if money is there main consideration then he and the club will walk away.Wages are bound to go up with promotion but hungry players who want to reach the top are the way to go.
I don't think a swop deal for Jackson is out of the question, hes come along way in a short time maybe big money is not yet the driving force.
Burton will always be fighting to stay in this league does he want that or maybe a punt on promotion ? We do have an ace to play Brayford and we are a club on the up.
 

nopigfansintown said:
Cash plus Brayford. This kids worth 2 million, a proper box to box midfielder.
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Just noticed your new avatar. Nice one ! One of my very favourite photos of Uncle Bob, and off the scale on the Authentic American Iconometer :)

Shame they didn't get on, according to accounts I've read anyhow ...
 
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