CONFIRMED James Hanson leaves the club

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Silent Blade said:
Ha ha, forgot about that. I think Reed isnt a bad player but found it amusing when WWF never stops saying that Wilder is making a big mistake for not including Reed in the 1st team and being quite obsessive just like when he made hints that Clough is a "racist". Ok, I admit winding him up when he talks about Reed
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On the bench Silent, not in the team straight away.
 

1danewhitehouse said:
Problem might be if we bring in 2 and play a back 4, where does that leavue O’Connell? I’m convinced this lad has a bright future at the club and is one of those who can improve with us and be a championship regular. For me, I’d focus on bringing in 1 top notch CB who combines the physicality of EEL/O’Connell with the excellent organisation and concentration of Jake Wright. If we play a back 4 that leaves Wright and Basham able to deputise for O Connell and the new man. If a back 3, one of those 2 to come in alongside.


I have a feeling Basham will make himself a regular next season. He seems the type of player not really expected to make the step up but because of his workrate and versatility, I think he will continue to be deemed an asset.
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hard to say Dane, but you make some valid points - as we always do we are speculating as to what CW & AK will do next season, but it's still an interesting situation.

We cannot afford to get off to a bad start - credit to Barnsley this season for doing so well and getting points on the board early doors - it gave them a cushion for later in the season. We could do with the same. Personally, i'd stay with this 3-4-1-2 stuff that the squad is used to. No experimenting early doors, get confidence, get points, then look to change to CW's apparent preferred 4-4-2 if recruitment allows.

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Fulwood Blade said:
hard to say Dane, but you make some valid points - as we always do we are speculating as to what CW & AK will do next season, but it's still an interesting situation.

We cannot afford to get off to a bad start - credit to Barnsley this season for doing so well and getting points on the board early doors - it gave them a cushion for later in the season. We could do with the same. Personally, i'd stay with this 3-4-1-2 stuff that the squad is used to. No experimenting early doors, get confidence, get points, then look to change to CW's apparent preferred 4-4-2 if recruitment allows.

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Yeah, this summer isn't about what players we hold on to - its about keeping hold of the momentum.

I'm sure CW will allow the club to enjoy promotion should it be achieved, but I'm also sure he'll be quick to hammer home that this is just the first step of taking this club to where it wants to be.

As for Hanson - its the same with many of our players, we don't know what they will be like at the level above until they have had a go. We can all make educated presumptions - mine would be that he would struggle - but then you think back to the likes of Shipperley and Allison - can you really write off Hanson?
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Yeah, this summer isn't about what players we hold on to - its about keeping hold of the momentum.

I'm sure CW will allow the club to enjoy promotion should it be achieved, but I'm also sure he'll be quick to hammer home that this is just the first step of taking this club to where it wants to be.

As for Hanson - its the same with many of our players, we don't know what they will be like at the level above until they have had a go. We can all make educated presumptions - mine would be that he would struggle - but then you think back to the likes of Shipperley and Allison - can you really write off Hanson?
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I am certain Hanson will play for us next season and I am confident he can do his usual effective job in the Championship. It may well be his main role will be as a late substitute but that role is key over the course of a season. Defenders don't underestimate him I'm sure and would hate to see him warming up with 20 minutes to go.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Yeah, this summer isn't about what players we hold on to - its about keeping hold of the momentum.

I'm sure CW will allow the club to enjoy promotion should it be achieved, but I'm also sure he'll be quick to hammer home that this is just the first step of taking this club to where it wants to be.

As for Hanson - its the same with many of our players, we don't know what they will be like at the level above until they have had a go. We can all make educated presumptions - mine would be that he would struggle - but then you think back to the likes of Shipperley and Allison - can you really write off Hanson?
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No player should be written off and what has only been touched on a bit is can Billy play with a target man? Didn't look good with Clark, and it doesn't look much better with Hanson. Looked decent with Done and Lavery. I remember that NW paired Allison and Pesch which worked, so if Hanson is to be used, then he needs someone that works for him. All fans want is something that works - our midfield 3 works. My opinion this season is if Billy had a striker he really got on with, he would have 30+ goals now and we would have more points.

Looking forward to it all though :)

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Woodwardfan said:
I am certain Hanson will play for us next season and I am confident he can do his usual effective job in the Championship. It may well be his main role will be as a late substitute but that role is key over the course of a season. Defenders don't underestimate him I'm sure and would hate to see him warming up with 20 minutes to go.
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Yeah - he is our only non-defender to have physical strength really, which I fully expect to be addressed in the summer, but like you say, every squad needs that type of player.

90% of teams in the championship have them, even the tops teams - Newcastle - Murphy, BHA - Murray, albeit they are of better quality but provide that presence none the less.
 
Fulwood Blade said:
No player should be written off and what has only been touched on a bit is can Billy play with a target man? Didn't look good with Clark, and it doesn't look much better with Hanson. Looked decent with Done and Lavery. I remember that NW paired Allison and Pesch which worked, so if Hanson is to be used, then he needs someone that works for him. All fans want is something that works - our midfield 3 works. My opinion this season is if Billy had a striker he really got on with, he would have 30+ goals now and we would have more points.

Looking forward to it all though :)

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Yeah strange one isnt it, Sharp has scored so many goals yet he's never looked like he has truly hit it off with a strike partner.

In the small time we have seen Lavery on the pitch with Hanson, it has looked like he has better awareness of the hold up play and the flick ons that Hanson provides.
 
Fulwood Blade said:
No player should be written off and what has only been touched on a bit is can Billy play with a target man? Didn't look good with Clark, and it doesn't look much better with Hanson. Looked decent with Done and Lavery. I remember that NW paired Allison and Pesch which worked, so if Hanson is to be used, then he needs someone that works for him. All fans want is something that works - our midfield 3 works. My opinion this season is if Billy had a striker he really got on with, he would have 30+ goals now and we would have more points.

Looking forward to it all though :)

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Bit of a dilemma this partner up front with Billy . Could we see a Hanson Clarke Billy situation on Saturday . 3 pronged attack if we are struggling .

Would be a problem , if we were not scoring .

It's not putting the ball in the oppositions net that's the problem , it's keeping it out of ours imo.

I can see Oldham getting a couple on Saturday . 2-3 to The Blades.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Yeah strange one isnt it, Sharp has scored so many goals yet he's never looked like he has truly hit it off with a strike partner.

In the small time we have seen Lavery on the pitch with Hanson, it has looked like he has better awareness of the hold up play and the flick ons that Hanson provides.
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I can only remember Andy Keogh forging a productive partnership with Sharp all those years ago and its a big pity. Sharp is an intelligent footballer and so is Hanson. I think it is working to the extent we are on a good run - 21 points from the last 30.
 
Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
Hanson is a good signing , w


Bit of a dilemma this partner up front with Billy . Could we see a Hanson Clarke Billy situation on Saturday . 3 pronged attack if we are struggling .

Would be a problem , if we were not scoring .

It's not putting the ball in the oppositions net that's the problem , it's keeping it out of ours imo.

I can see Oldham getting a couple on Saturday . 2-3 to The Blades.
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WOW - Oldham to score 2 - they have scored 14 goals at home in 19 league games. Their fans would be in raptures! Although it's just like us to give them a couple.

I'm going for a 0-1. The sort of game at Rotherham where Bob Atkins scored. Can still see him, received the ball back to goal, spin and leather it in. If you were there, we all went BONKERS ! Lets hope it's in front of the Blades fans.

Bit like P'boro this season.

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Woodwardfan said:
I can only remember Andy Keogh forging a productive partnership with Sharp all those years ago and its a big pity. Sharp is an intelligent footballer and so is Hanson. I think it is working to the extent we are on a good run - 21 points from the last 30.
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Wasn't it Sharp and Hooper also at Scunny as a lethal partnership .

I have watch Hooper at S6 and like Fletcher , looks past his sell by date .

I would like to see Clarke and Hanson as a back up . No doubt this partnership will be looked at by Wilder , Knill in training .

In saying that we don't have a problem scoring , even though we miss a boat loa of chances .

Billy done well to keep fit and focused all season .
 
Lord Bos of Eckington. said:
Wasn't it Sharp and Hooper also at Scunny as a lethal partnership .

I have watch Hooper at S6 and like Fletcher , looks past his sell by date .

I would like to see Clarke and Hanson as a back up . No doubt this partnership will be looked at by Wilder , Knill in training .

In saying that we don't have a problem scoring , even though we miss a boat loa of chances .

Billy done well to keep fit and focused all season .
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No they weren't there together.
 

HeCanDoMagic said:
Has anyone on this forum ever changed their view following debate?!
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Changed my view on Coutts and Basham .

Not changed it on Done , Long , Reed .

Also back in August 16 , I did think we could be in a relegation dog fight .

A lot of forum members on here have a better understanding of football than me .
 
Right... it seemed a shame to close this thread when the majority were able to debate respectfully so I've moved most of the off-topic crap.

If you'd all like to collectively wind your necks in and unbunch your knickers, we would appreciate it.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Has anyone on this forum ever changed their view following debate?!
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Not as yet but I’m pretty sure that any day now, I’m going to make BushBlade fall in love with John Akinde despite his reservations.


In all seriousness though, I don’t think people will change their views from one end of a spectrum to the other but they might consider points of view and find their views on a particular issue shift slightly along that spectrum one way or the other.
 
I don't think he's good enough if we go up but he does a job at this level.

I'd personally prefer to start with Lavery and bring him on if we need a change. He does offer us something different and he does a lot of hard work occupying the CBs.
 
1danewhitehouse said:
Not as yet but I’m pretty sure that any day now, I’m going to make BushBlade fall in love with John Akinde despite his reservations.


In all seriousness though, I don’t think people will change their views from one end of a spectrum to the other but they might consider points of view and find their views on a particular issue shift slightly along that spectrum one way or the other.
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I can't think of a specific case off the top of my head but I'm sure when posters have made sensible comments on a player I've watched said player after and looked to see if the comments were right. So I suppose it's a combination of debate and player performance; sometimes people point things out that you don't really notice, then you think 'yeah, they've got a point'.
 
1danewhitehouse said:
On the back of debate? Or on the back of watching his performances over a period of time? Did someone on here convince you to change your opinion on Lafferty?
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Yes, quite definitely and I said so on that thread at that time.

And it is all about balance of the side, skill wise, personality wise, reliability wise, influence on the field and in the dressing room. A good manager know how many flamboyant artists to have and how many worker bees, how many kids and how many of those you'd choose to have in the trenches with you.
 
I think he will serve his purpose of helping us get out of this league but nothing more.

He will be retained though next season as he's very tall and will come in handy when we put the Christmas trimmings up in the Executive suite.
 
Good thread now. Pleasure to be part of it.

Could this be a blueprint for an exceptional forum future?
 
1danewhitehouse said:
Not as yet but I’m pretty sure that any day now, I’m going to make BushBlade fall in love with John Akinde despite his reservations.


In all seriousness though, I don’t think people will change their views from one end of a spectrum to the other but they might consider points of view and find their views on a particular issue shift slightly along that spectrum one way or the other.
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Think that's likely with individual game performances rather than through forum debate. I have a totally different opinion now of Keiran Freeman than at the start of the season, due simply to his performances, two poor ones notwithstanding. A few, particularly Ricky, told me I was wrong and he would do the job. He was totally right as were others. Their opinion didn't change my mind though, Freeman himself did.
 

Sean Thornton said:
Think that's likely with individual game performances rather than through forum debate. I have a totally different opinion now of Keiran Freeman than at the start of the season, due simply to his performances, two poor ones notwithstanding. A few, particularly Ricky, told me I was wrong and he would do the job. He was totally right as were others. Their opinion didn't change my mind though, Freeman himself did.
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Yeah that's pretty much how I see it. I've changed my mind on plenty of players due to upturn in performance. I can't recall ever thinking a player was poor and being convinced otherwise solely by discussing it. That said, as BushBlade says, there are those moments where perhaps you'd not thought of something and it's pointed out by someone else which might make you re-consider to an extent. But not to the extent of moving from one end of a spectrum to another.

When we signed Hanson, I saw him as an impact sub a la chief but he surprised me with his first couple of performances. Lately though, he's reverted to more like what I expected. That's not intended as a dig at him. Just that he had a period of games where he played better than I thought he would. Now, he's winning headers and giving defenders a hard time but his weaknesses are also evident (lack of agility, hit and miss first touch, the time it takes to get his head up when receiving the ball, lack of pace etc.).
 
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