CONFIRMED James Hanson leaves the club

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Sitwell , you know full well that you know loads of pals on here, you work very hard at your network and good luck to you, but don't pretend that agreement from cronies means you are right, come on.

Tell me if I'm wrong, this is an impression I get. Loads of familiar names in there aren't there?
So because I generally agree with sitwell on here I'm a crony and my views are not valid even though I have never knowingly met him?
 

Sitwell , you know full well that you know loads of pals on here, you work very hard at your network and good luck to you, but don't pretend that agreement from cronies means you are right, come on.

Tell me if I'm wrong, this is an impression I get. Loads of familiar names in there aren't there?
I give his posts a like when i agree with them, which is often!
 
The same goes for Clarke and Hussey and Wilson ....... but does all of that make Wilder a crap manager ? Does that mean that Wilder doesnt know what hes doing in the transfer market ? No , and you and me know it doesnt .

Good managers also gradually evolve and improve the team as they go . Done for example , did a job and helped get us as a team ticking , but better options were out there . Done makes way for Hanson . Hanson does a job but and helps get us promoted but better options will be out there ....... and on it goes . Does this mean that Wilder doesnt know what hes doing ? Does this mean that Wilder hasnt a clue exactly what it is that hes trying to create ? No , and you and me know it doesnt .

Sadly , many on here , ill not name names , unintentionally imply all of the above DOES make Wilder crap .

We dont though , as we recognise a work in progress . We can also distinguish between a poor 90 minutes for individual players and whether or not they are actually any good . Not all on here can though .
Agree. The only person we need to be good at Moneyball is Wilder. After the recent clownish incumbents, thank God he has saved our club and put us back on the right track. Sometimes you need to spot and fix problems like the ones showing in January.

As he has clearly said several times recruitment is managed for the short, medium and long term.
 
Sharp and Hanson as a pairing isn't ideal but it's workable, at least with our midfield behind them.

I also think Wyke or Tom Elliott would've been better signings for around 200k. I would've probably gone for Elliott if we were after an out and out target man and someone to play with Sharp.

I hope we set our sights a bit higher than Lee Gregory next season. I wouldn't mind him here but not as our main main in the Championship.
 
Twenty goals scored in the 8 games he's been on the pitch.

Not lost, 3 assists, 1 goal. Extremely helpful defensively and works very hard.

For me, it doesn't matter who scores as long as the side overall does.

Probably not a starting solution if we go up but he does a good job.

Probably not a 90 minute man for most games but at last we have strong options on the bench and a manager who knows when to make changes.

An example of a good January window signing that has boosted the overall squad.

Plus, we snatched him from under Millwall's noses, imagine the damage he could have caused our cause if he had been playing for them the second half of this season?
 
Sitters, you seem to be quite desperate have have agreement on this with others. That isn't a problem to me, but I am so glad you have got 20 others - have as much of a love in as you want - seem to remember a similar thing with posters on EEL, until the majority realised his limitations too.

Hanson has limitations to some of us - some of us just want better - this isn't a crime punishable by death by 20 S24SU posters.

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Except of course when I accurately pointed out Emperor Done's new clothes were threadbare....
 
Except of course when I accurately pointed out Emperor Done's new clothes were threadbare....

Done has limitations too, but he too has helped us to get promotion - most of the squad have in varying ways.

I just don't get this "thou shalt not criticise" a player in a R&W shirt - it's all about making us a better team....or group which seems to be the new in phrase with quite a few managers.

PInchy - just stick to what you believe - sitting on a fence doesn't suit some.

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Hanson has made a difference - I'm pleased we signed him. He has given us much needed physical presence up front.

Even though he didnt score yesterday, for our first goal Hanson had about three defenders around him....leaving space for O'Connell...
 
Done has limitations too, but he too has helped us to get promotion - most of the squad have in varying ways.

I just don't get this "thou shalt not criticise" a player in a R&W shirt - it's all about making us a better team....or group which seems to be the new in phrase with quite a few managers.

PInchy - just stick to what you believe - sitting on a fence doesn't suit some.

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Old pinch makes me laugh, bangs on all day about playing football like Barca yet a big fan of Hanson. Go figure
 
Of course, Wyke was untried and untested at this level whereas Hanson has been around this Div and above for a few years. Our aim in Jan was to sign players to try and bolster our promotion bid and that is exactly what all our signings look like they are helping us achieve. Hanson was just the type of player we needed. It seems Wyke has started well at Bradford but it was a bit of a gamble. We knew waht we were getting. If we are promoted it would mean another big step up for Wyke so it would make the risk of buying him a bit bigger. Whether Hanson cuts it again in the Championship we don't know, but he has played at that level and more so than most of our squad. To have genuine options to strengthen the team at various points in a match is something we now have. To be able to bring on players like Carruthers, O'Shea and Lavery makes such a difference. If Hanson doesn't start I suspect defences wouldn't be too pleased to see him come on as they know they will be in for a battle late on in the game. Too often we just had no one able to do that with the central defenders. One high ball to the back post yesterday in the first half saw Hanson get a powerful header back into the danger area where, to many fans, Sharpe, was pushed to the ground but the referee didn't agree. We hadn't got that option before he arrived. Also, a few teams have pushed up onto our midfield and sometimes the ball has to go long from the back. It happened a few times yesterday and Hanson had three men around him on the long kicks but he won nearly all of them. Ok, they may not all have gone direct to our players but it helped us get some possession in the opposition half.
 
I like my strikers to score goals, call me old fashioned cant argue that we havent lost but i would lime another striker to partner billy to get equivillwnt of 15 over the season.

Anyone know how many assists he has?

I like my teams to win games, it is the only stat I care about. Next season is a long way off so I don't really care who starts then, but getting over the line now is really, really important to me.

If Wilder says Hanson starts then his knowledge and track record are good enough. Fuck me, the thought anyone doubts a word that comes out of his mouth is beyond stupid.
 

He was poor yesterday, Lavery should have replaced him sooner, but he does a job.

Hanson is carrying a knock ( thigh strain ) , and is playing through the pain barrier , with injections , therefore taking one for the team .

Hanson IMO is a good signing and gives us a different dimension . Clarke has not been fit .

Ok football is all about opinions , but fuck me give the bloke some slack.

Clarke will also assist in the promotion push .

Next season and squad will be a different ball game .

Anyone in a red and white shirt gets my backing . Also I know fuck all compared to Wilder and Knill

We play to our strengths and change shape often due to opposition threats .
 
I don't rate Hanson. I don't think he suites our style. I don't think he links well with out top scorer in the division/ country. I have gone to great lengths to explain why.

That's my opinion, nothing more. Wilder picks the side, not me. He picks Hanson. He also (consistently) hooks him off.

I am assuming you, and others, can count themselves as amongst the many that clap and cheer when his headers go straight to an opponent ?

Or have I got that wrong too ??

No offence intended.

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Wilder disagrees with you. I believe Wilder.
 
I knew we would start seeing threads like this. He's a player that offers a number of important things. If you have to go direct in a game, he's the sort of player that will make the ball stick, he will win flick ons, he offers a big threat at set pieces and in general will get special attention from their biggest defender. He gives the opposition something else to worry about.

Sometimes Lavery will be more dangerous against certain opposition, sometimes Hanson is a better choice. As he becomes more accustomed to playing for us he will get a few more goals I'm sure. Goals are only a part of why we bought him and it's not even the most important reason. That's not what target men are specifically deployed for. If they can get 10-15 a season it's a bonus.
 
7 pages arguing about Hanson, lad's popular isn't he.

Think most of us were iffy about his signing, but he's proved us wrong. He does exactly what we need him to. He's a work horse whose contribution doesn't necessarily show up on the stat sheet, goals and assists aren't the be all and end all of a player.

I'd understand the concern about his lack of scoring if we weren't the top scoring team in the league regardless.

His presence tires out defenders, and draws them away from others, making it easier for others to score, simple as that. He's great in the air and that's beneficial in both boxes.

There'll be better options when we go up, but he's still key in us getting there.
 
Hanson does a job at this level and he is doing the work Clarke can't be bothered to do.

For now that is OK but long term we will need better options.
 
Done has limitations too, but he too has helped us to get promotion - most of the squad have in varying ways.

I just don't get this "thou shalt not criticise" a player in a R&W shirt - it's all about making us a better team....or group which seems to be the new in phrase with quite a few managers.

PInchy - just stick to what you believe - sitting on a fence doesn't suit some.

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I will mate, I will. I just find it a bit rum when those who express their opinions in a robust or 'confident' manner, bleat when others respond in kind. I'm afraid that being King of the Castle on TILD is not a transferable commodity.
 
He came in at a time where we weren't really at it and I think we'd dropped to 2nd. Since then we've been impressive and not lost a game, he added something different and freshened us up, we started really getting a hold of games again when he came into the team.

The aim then, and still is getting out of this league. We seem to have lost sight that he is one of the players that has played a part in getting us 9 points clear at the top, we haven't outgrown him yet.

Good signing, and we needed it at the time. A lot of us seem to have short memories.
 
Whether Hanson cuts it again in the Championship we don't know, but he has played at that level and more so than most of our squad.

James Hanson has never played in the Championship. 4 of his 7 full seasons to date have been in League 2.
 
I like my teams to win games, it is the only stat I care about. Next season is a long way off so I don't really care who starts then, but getting over the line now is really, really important to me.

If Wilder says Hanson starts then his knowledge and track record are good enough. Fuck me, the thought anyone doubts a word that comes out of his mouth is beyond stupid.

Never said i doubt wilder, ive said hanson doesnt score enough goals and offers not much more than jumping and pushing. I think as a striker he should be scoring more. Jumping and being physical and being commited is alright. But nothing more. If we go up we are going to need strikers who are clinical and offer more.
 
Never said i doubt wilder, ive said hanson doesnt score enough goals and offers not much more than jumping and pushing. I think as a striker he should be scoring more. Jumping and being physical and being commited is alright. But nothing more. If we go up we are going to need strikers who are clinical and offer more.
Like the 50 million quids worth over the dark side who are banging them in left right and centre ?
 
is he good enough, and should he be dropped?

No and yes for me, no better than clarke. Would rather clarke (if fit) but lavery for me should be starting ahead of him. For me he has no place here next season if we go up.

1 in 7 is poor for the amount we create. Missed a sitter yesterday as well.

I know where you're coming from and ultimately I agree that he's not good enough for where we are going. But he's been brought in for a specific purpose. To give us a physical aerial threat up front and he does that job well. We don't have anyone else who can do that and at this level he's "suitable for purpose".

If we are up against a big physical central defence I'd pick him ahead of Lavery. If not I'd pick Lavery ahead of him because he has some pace.

Horses fuck courses of course.
 
No room for criticism of any kind here fellas.

It immediately disqualifies you as a Blade.

Can you really find a single criticism from our front players when we are one of Europes top scorers
Never said i doubt wilder, ive said hanson doesnt score enough goals and offers not much more than jumping and pushing. I think as a striker he should be scoring more. Jumping and being physical and being commited is alright. But nothing more. If we go up we are going to need strikers who are clinical and offer more.

By the very definition of what you are saying there is doubt whether Hanson is good enough. No one knows but look at Coutts and Freeman at the back end of last season and tell me that every one of us wouldn't have cut them adrift?

I struggle to understand why, when we are in a good place, anyone wants to shed light on possible negatives? Criticism has its place but it seems many aren't happy unless we have someone in the team to stick the knife into. There is so much more to the game these days than sticking the ball in the net. Picking up men from corners and set pieces, who you pull out of position when breaks are made, the room you create for others around you. Remember at the start of the season when Billy was getting rocks chucked at him for being fat, slow and over the hill?

Lets get ourselves over this line before making decision on who starts next season. We don't even know for sure which division we will be in.
 
I don't rate Hanson. I don't think he suites our style. I don't think he links well with out top scorer in the division/ country. I have gone to great lengths to explain why.

That's my opinion, nothing more. Wilder picks the side, not me. He picks Hanson. He also (consistently) hooks him off.

I am assuming you, and others, can count themselves as amongst the many that clap and cheer when his headers go straight to an opponent ?

Or have I got that wrong too ??

No offence intended.

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The telling sentence must be... "He picks Hanson"
 

Hanson wasn't Wilders first choice,Clarke was.He was bought because Clarke was going to miss most of the season through injury and he felt this type of player was an essential part of our gaining promotion,Wilder was right again !!

That's it what punters , fans have to take on board and remember .

This type of player was an essential part of our gaining promotion .

Doc Pace you have talked some sense with your statement .
 

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