Uncharacteristically sloppy

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PokerBlade said:
I'm not too worried by how many we concede as much as the nature of some of the goals. We concede a lot of sloppy ones, like the Gillingham home game, and it's the obvious thing for us to improve upon. However, we score plenty, our form is good, the gap remains, and we can move on to the next match full of confidence again knowing that even missing two players as important as Wright and Duffy has done nothing to prevent us getting another routine victory.
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Sorry it might just be me but I thought Swindon's goals were pretty good. We might have closed them down a bit better but I thought they were two decent shots.

If you want to talk sloppy, I'd say look at our first and third TBH.
 
The_Green_Man said:
I think that the wonder goal straight after the break, knocked the wind up an already nervous set of players. We shouldn't have been so tentative with a 2-0 lead however for whatever reason (possibly the way we lost 2 points at Rochdale), we still had the jitters about us.......The appeared to last longer than we would have liked and wasn't helped by the catching us on a wobble and equalising.

The main thing it that we have this new found resilience that we have lacked in a good few seasons. Beneath all of the jitters that we allowed to come to the same, we still have this confident set of lads who know that our two front lines are the best in this league.....We have the individual quality to hit the back of the net even when we aren't at our best.
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I do think nerves/pressure/tension's got a load to do with it. But, magnificently, we're finding ways to come through it & get results regardless.

I've just had a look back at the December & January games - remember, it was right at the end of December that we hauled Scunny in & hit the top of the league for the first time. We went from conceding 1 goal in 4 games in December to 11 in 5 in that wobbly January (that went from euphoric at the start to Walsall, Gillingham, Fleetwood). Then things steadied down again through February but now, with the end in sight, it's got lairy again it seems.

Difference between now and the latter part of January though is we're finding ways to overcome. As you say, we've got backbone now. Must be so dispiriting to chasing clubs.
 
It's good that we can say "uncharacteristically sloppy". I'll take that over Swindon who appear to have been "characteristically sloppy" from what you see and hear.
 
JJBlade said:
But the goals we concede are not as a result of trying to batter teams

They come as a result of us getting two goals in front and then tossing it off
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Sorry that's bull. Yes we leave ourselves open at times (more than I would like recently) and, especially without Wright at the back, can get a bit panic stations at times but one thing you cannot accuse this side of is tossing it off.

Probably the hardest working United side I have seen - the passion, belief and confidence they have shown throughout the season is without question. What a ridiculous comment to make.
 
Bladepicker said:
Sorry that's bull. Yes we leave ourselves open at times (more than I would like recently) and, especially without Wright at the back, can get a bit panic stations at times but one thing you cannot accuse this side of is tossing it off.

Probably the hardest working United side I have seen - the passion, belief and confidence they have shown throughout the season is without question. What a ridiculous comment to make.
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It's the Bladesfans' Way. Best in the land...

...at talking bollocks.
 
GrayBlade said:
Sorry it might just be me but I thought Swindon's goals were pretty good. We might have closed them down a bit better but I thought they were two decent shots.

If you want to talk sloppy, I'd say look at our first and third TBH.
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Didn't mean tonight. I mean in general.
 
I thought we were excellent first half and based on that 45 minutes, thought we could have easily won at least 4-0. I did think we looked a bit ropey at the back though, and that turned out to be exactly the case in the second half. Swindon looked pretty decent 2nd half and caused us a lot of problems, it was a huge relief when Samir won that penalty!!
 
It was disappointing how the second half started and not great for my heart! But, if we do that every away game, I'll be happy.

The goals were both screamers and not down to any mistakes, other than maybe better closing down higher up the pitch.
 
The footballing gods are behind us at the moment which makes a massive change because the error the Swindon keeper made is usually what happens to us.
 



JJBlade said:
No don't say it
You're not allowed to

Stating the glaringly obvious is not being concerned it's negativity

League Ones worst can score at will against us but we have more upfront than they do so we get away with it

I'm all for winning every game 5-4 if we go all out attack Kevin Keegan style

But the goals we concede are not as a result of trying to batter teams

They come as a result of us getting two goals in front and then tossing it off, and we're going to get a confidence stripping 3-2 defeat after being 2-0 up one of these days
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Please explain how their first goal yesterday was down to us "tossing it off"?
 
Bladepicker said:
Sorry that's bull. Yes we leave ourselves open at times (more than I would like recently) and, especially without Wright at the back, can get a bit panic stations at times but one thing you cannot accuse this side of is tossing it off.

Probably the hardest working United side I have seen - the passion, belief and confidence they have shown throughout the season is without question. What a ridiculous comment to make.
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It smacks of the kind of comment someone makes who has no idea of how we've been playing.
 
PeteBlade said:
Please explain how their first goal yesterday was down to us "tossing it off"?
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Just the timing of it, immediately after half time, team coming back, still switched off out and allowing opponent to much space.

Both goals were extremely similar, an unmarked player picking the ball up and then being allowed to run forward, steady themselves and get away a good strike unchallenged.
Listening on the radio it seemed that each was a speculative shot, a goal out of nothing, but they weren't.
A speculative effort would have been if he'd hit it first time from 40 yards.

For both goals the opponent had the ball for at five or six seconds and a United player was no nearer him when he let fly than they were when he received the ball
 
Stretch said:
A lot of posters before the match warned that Swindon had decent attacking players who were capable of scoring. Therefore it shouldn't be a huge surprise that we conceded and it sounded like the first was a beauty. The concern is these little spells we occasionally have at the start of the second half where we seem to switch off; Gilligham, Scunny and tonight all being examples.
Hopefully this won't happen again, and with the fixtures we have coming up I would expect better concentration.

On a more positive note we rode it out tonight and won handsomely in the end. 3 more points and on we go.
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Well said Stretch, exactly how I felt last night. Another great 3 points from a tricky away match (I know they are near the bottom and many of us are saying our run-in is OK because we are playing teams near the bottom but there are no easy games so we can't afford to let our standards drop) and we move ever closer to our goal so no complaints there. However I am a little concerned about our sloppiness immediately after half time because there may be games where we don't fire in our normal way going forward and these lapses could hurt us.
 
JJBlade said:
Just the timing of it, immediately after half time, team coming back, still switched off out and allowing opponent to much space.

Both goals were extremely similar, an unmarked player picking the ball up and then being allowed to run forward, steady themselves and get away a good strike unchallenged.
Listening on the radio it seemed that each was a speculative shot, a goal out of nothing, but they weren't.
A speculative effort would have been if he'd hit it first time from 40 yards.

For both goals the opponent had the ball for at five or six seconds and a United player was no nearer him when he let fly than they were when he received the ball
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I wouldn't say we were tossing it off JJB. The first goal, to me, was that we just started the 2nd half slowly / sloppily and, for some reason, just didn't close their player down quickly - which we had been doing all through the 1st half. It was a great strike but he should have been closed down quicker.
 
4 goals away
all different scorers , majority of possession
17 chances through another away game

which bit of us dominating games and going for 90 minutes do some of our fans miss

why all the ooh we will fold attitudes
which players are going to let us down

Its amazing how some of our fans can see bolton and fleetwood going on world beating runs under no pressure whatsoever, the fact they have to win 3 more than us in 9 apperantly is no pressure at all to some blades

but see United easily crumble with fear and lack of confidence

where from
where has this current team lost more than 2 games in any 10
not the one that started the first 4 , this team

we havent lost on average more than 1 per a shade under 9 games since game 4, and we have to lose 3 now

we have 9 games left . we have the easiest run in of all 3 playing clubs averaging being 16th
boltons last games are against teams averaging 13th
fleetwood 14th

we are unbeaten in 8
bolton in 2
fleetwood in 1
 
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Firstly the OP has it exactly right with regard to last night.

Secondly, I'm not sure who's more irritating. The usual doom-monger whose posts read like suicide notes at the best of times or the "we're fucking world beaters so I'm going to tell you this 1000 times every day until April and beyond" guy.
 
First half we could have been 5 up they looked like they'd never played together before.
Second half they were up for it we backed of for their first but he struck it well same sort of thing for their second picked his spot they're level puts us on the back foot but we kept our composure and kept passing and probing.
To get a result after that was emense Wilder stayed composed and so did the players credit to them.
Don't forget Swindon are in a relegation fight dangerous sides to meet at this stage of the season
 
sampylad said:
Was anybody else worried that Coutes was going to pass the ball out wide from the penalty rather than shoot ;)
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Loved this post, made be laugh but lets give credit to Coutts for having the balls to take the pen last night.

Coutts is a nice lad but he's like pollyfilla in a wall for me, fills a hole and often looks OK when its finished but does nothing to help the wall with its first job of holding up the ceiling. Lots of little short passes in midfield last night but not much offensively nor defensively, just filled a hole.
 
I think threads like this are are often refection of our own nervousness as much as the team's perceived weaknesses, and a reaction to other team's results.

Put it this way, if Bolton and Fleetwood hadn't won last night, this thread would probably have been a one-pager (IMO), and we'd be calmly reflecting more on another good away win, us scoring ten goals in three straight away games and being undefeated in eight.

It's not a pop at anybody, it's a natural reaction, but maybe we should just kick back and enjoy the bigger picture for now and worry about our defence for next season when this one is over. One thing is for sure, nothing is going to change this season, after playing the way we have has worked so well and got us to where we are. UTB.
 
Interesting how some on this thread think "we won handsomely", it was anything but from my seat, result was in doubt until we got the pen at the end. When they thought they'd equalised at 3-3 with a few minutes to go it looked a tight decision but was up the other end. Even the pen was a suprise as there had been many far worse unpunished fouls all night, Samir had gone down similiarily a few minutes earlier and got nothing and generally the ref was highly inconsistent so none of us knew what was coming next. Tweaks needed.
 



We need to tighten up defensively on the road especially.
 
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