What can we do to have a better atmosphere

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Again this fallacy about this starting when all seating was introduced. No lack if atmosphere on the Kop then. Ongoing decline is the reason and it won't come back week in week out overnight. Still there though deep down as some cup games have shown.
True SB,but didn't many still get seats in the middle sections where they used to stand...I remember being up and down eveytime we were attacking,and it took a bit of getting used to...hated it,but no choice.
I think because the only standing that is tolerated is along the back few rows as you aren't blocking anyone's view,so people have been dispersed there or to different areas of the ground..trouble is the one's making the noise are not in one concentrated area,so it dilutes it all.
 



John street....the Kop.
Used to pay when you got there, and make your way to the same area once inside. As things got better during the Bassett years, we found ourselves going earlier to ensure we could get the view and place we wanted in John Street...(in line with the 18 yd box, stood at the front of the second level right on the barrier....little brothers could see over those stood in front of them and fit under the barrier to avoid any shove)

Say what you want about nothing to do with all seater stadia, but that's what started the decline as I see it. Nowadays you can arrive as it kicks off knowing there is no consequence. Do that back in the day and risk it selling out and ending up with either a shit view or isolated from mates. Furthermore, those incapable of standing or not wanting to be in the "crowd" could still buy a seated ticket and be happy.

It's easily sorted if someone would bother to do just a little extra work and research.
Kop.....pay on the gate cash only, no allocated seats for season tickets, no fancy facilities. Would see people return to getting there early, folks turning up in groups to be together and ensure a good spot, and an overall rise on spending inside the ground. Also need to see an end to the "no drinking in view of the pitch rule", just give em plastic pint glasses and let em get on with it.

What would happen over time is that there would be a return of the football becoming a social event as others want to tag along with the banter and join in....it's certainly worth a try for a few years until we can flatten the kop and do it properly....hopefully with safe standing.
 
John street....the Kop.
Used to pay when you got there, and make your way to the same area once inside. As things got better during the Bassett years, we found ourselves going earlier to ensure we could get the view and place we wanted in John Street...(in line with the 18 yd box, stood at the front of the second level right on the barrier....little brothers could see over those stood in front of them and fit under the barrier to avoid any shove)

Say what you want about nothing to do with all seater stadia, but that's what started the decline as I see it. Nowadays you can arrive as it kicks off knowing there is no consequence. Do that back in the day and risk it selling out and ending up with either a shit view or isolated from mates. Furthermore, those incapable of standing or not wanting to be in the "crowd" could still buy a seated ticket and be happy.

It's easily sorted if someone would bother to do just a little extra work and research.
Kop.....pay on the gate cash only, no allocated seats for season tickets, no fancy facilities. Would see people return to getting there early, folks turning up in groups to be together and ensure a good spot, and an overall rise on spending inside the ground. Also need to see an end to the "no drinking in view of the pitch rule", just give em plastic pint glasses and let em get on with it.

What would happen over time is that there would be a return of the football becoming a social event as others want to tag along with the banter and join in....it's certainly worth a try for a few years until we can flatten the kop and do it properly....hopefully with safe standing.
Say what you want about nothing to do with all seater stadia, but that's what started the decline as I see it. Nowadays you can arrive as it kicks off knowing there is no consequence. Do that back in the day and risk it selling out and ending up with either a shit view or isolated from mates. Furthermore, those incapable of standing or not wanting to be in the "crowd" could still buy a seated ticket and be happy.
Or arrive late and find away fans on the Kop,haha.
 
If singing at football matches is so important to you go and support wales
 
The club should be doing as much as possible to keep fans in the ground before and after kick off, cheaper better booze in warmer environment. The international bars a good idea it's all revenue, I'm not wanting silver service or to be part of the prawn sandwich brigade but I'm more than happy to part my money at the ground if they can compete with the prices at cricketers/bar27/scholar/Albion/golden lion/sheaf. I've never really known what the platinum suite does before games?
 
The club were very accomodating 7 years ago to their credit. A singing section on the Kop was requested and granted on A Block.

The muppets in this section sang for about 10 minutes of one match and spent the rest of the time pissing about on their phones and probably slapping each others arses. They had a golden opportunity to make something work and blew it.
It boils down to the fact that English football fans on the whole are garbage. Always half-arsed, always reactive, rarely ever proactive. Maybe if we have a chair-throwing section, it might get a more enthusiastic response......
 
I blame Simon Cowell

If he hadn't make everyone think that they only sing to achieve their lifelong ambition of getting a recording contract , more would join in on the kop for free
Instead they are all awaiting auditions on x factor and the voice or blades got talent
 
The obvious mystery in all this apathy is the fact we get 20000 who want to watch our games. Are we all going to games on autopilot?

I had a season ticket on the south stand for 20 odd years and never went to "sing my heart out" but instead to watch a game with a good view, I'd sing when the atmosphere was good but was never a "sing up yer miserable cunts" type, many feel the same. Away games were always different but at Bramall Lane unless you are on the kop there is very little atmosphere.
 
Whatever anybody says.... It's the boys on the park who create the atmosphere.
But having a stand full of chuff at the other end always helps
 
True SB,but didn't many still get seats in the middle sections where they used to stand...I remember being up and down eveytime we were attacking,and it took a bit of getting used to...hated it,but no choice.
I think because the only standing that is tolerated is along the back few rows as you aren't blocking anyone's view,so people have been dispersed there or to different areas of the ground..trouble is the one's making the noise are not in one concentrated area,so it dilutes it all.


Im in the South Stand these days so wouldn't know but I'm quite happy to stand away as that's the norm, although even away you can often hear two songs as people aren't together. As I said before, seating away when it first started didn't se to affect the atmosphere.
 
The club were very accomodating 7 years ago to their credit. A singing section on the Kop was requested and granted on A Block.

The muppets in this section sang for about 10 minutes of one match and spent the rest of the time pissing about on their phones and probably slapping each others arses. They had a golden opportunity to make something work and blew it.
It boils down to the fact that English football fans on the whole are garbage. Always half-arsed, always reactive, rarely ever proactive. Maybe if we have a chair-throwing section, it might get a more enthusiastic response......


These days TD. These days.
 
The lack of atmosphere can be pinned on one group and one group alone. Certainly not to blame are the old bastards who've sung for most of their lives and have now turned Into the old curmudgeons who we used to see in the John Street seats as kids, moaning for the full 90 minutes dropping lit woodbines on the wooden floor of the stand reminiscing about Ernest Needham. Neither are the under twenties, with their computer games like Alex in Wonderland and Pacman those brown checked baseball caps and their cocaine, who've never seen a good side turn out for us .

No, it's the 21-45 age group with either shaved head or King George beards who spend their lives hunting out Jaipur, tight trousers, white hip hop or indie bands no one has heard of and coloured shoes or plimsolls who should have spent their free time thinking up funny ditties about the pigs, skilled opponents wearing bras or carrying handbags and adapting classic songs to fit our club and players ( not like der der der der der der we've got Billy Sharp Billy Sharp because whoever came up with that pile of shite wants castrating). In short, the posters on here who blame the other two groups in previously mentioned.

Damn you all.
 



The lack of atmosphere can be pinned on one group and one group alone. Certainly not to blame are the old bastards who've sung for most of their lives and have now turned Into the old curmudgeons who we used to see in the John Street seats as kids, moaning for the full 90 minutes dropping lit woodbines on the wooden floor of the stand reminiscing about Ernest Needham. Neither are the under twenties, with their computer games like Alex in Wonderland and Pacman those brown checked baseball caps and their cocaine, who've never seen a good side turn out for us .

No, it's the 21-45 age group with either shaved head or King George beards who spend their lives hunting out Jaipur, tight trousers, white hip hop or indie bands no one has heard of and coloured shoes or plimsolls who should have spent their free time thinking up funny ditties about the pigs, skilled opponents wearing bras or carrying handbags and adapting classic songs to fit our club and players ( not like der der der der der der we've got Billy Sharp Billy Sharp because whoever came up with that pile of shite wants castrating). In short, the posters on here who blame the other two groups in previously mentioned.

Damn you all.


Tattoos. I forgot tattoos.

And those tall cunts who moan about legroom.
 
We need that Icelandic clap thing! would sound incredible with 20 odd thousand joining in. Don't need to sing or owt like that, just a big noise for a bit would suffice.
 
Im in the South Stand these days so wouldn't know but I'm quite happy to stand away as that's the norm, although even away you can often hear two songs as people aren't together. As I said before, seating away when it first started didn't se to affect the atmosphere.
I'm often in the SS,but fluctuate between different parts of the ground as I POTD,but I can hear 2 or 3 sections on the Kop starting songs when I go on there...they would be better all in one section.
I agree ST,there was nothing wrong when seats were first introduced,it was still good,but it's got steadily worse unless it's a big Cup game.
I go more to watch the game these days,but join in when I can...it's more enjoyable with a bit of volume from the Kop than being sat in a Library though.
 
I sometimes sit Kop and sometimes South Stand. Atmosphere wise the Kop is better the further back you are.

South Stand people sit down for the GCB - does no one else think this is sacrilege!?
Better for leg room though...
 
I think the best opportunity to improve it at home short term is the lower tier. You'd like to think the atmosphere will take care of itself in the bigger games but it just won't. We'll all be too 'nervous', bless us.

I'm pretty sure the club will keep the lower tier open and it would be easy enough to arrange moving over there. We've got 2 weeks before the next home game so it would be a good time to start spreading the word.

Failing that at least we've still got away games which are occasionally decent. Although it's even disappointing away from home most of the time.

I've suggested a few times. Make the lower tier a designated singing area, with unreserved seats. It certainly worked at Palace (though they may have been a little quieter recently).

It may not work, but nothing ventured...

This, by the way, should be supervised and any non-singers summarily garrotted in special seats. That should turn the volume up a bit...
 
SingCam - during SingCam moments if the camera falls on you and the SingCam screen reveals you're not singing you have to kiss whoever is directly to your left - the SingCam will not move on until this happens
 



We should have a designated singing section from row SS upwards between G and E on the kop or the whole on of G. 1,500 of us is more than enough to sing 90 minutes. Also need new chants as the current ones are bobar
 

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