Some of you are talking garbage!

[larkymasher]

Not me saying that...

“There is a lot of nonsense spoken that Leon and Billy can’t play together,” said Wilder. “For me, it’s absolute garbage".

But our manager Chrissy is saying it.

We seem to have a fair few on here who keep coming out with this rubbish that Clarke can't play with Sharp. So, if you're one of them, take note of what Chris is saying to you. You're wrong - and he's right. And I back him 100% on that.

For the record I've said before that:

Done isn't a striker
Clarke can play with Sharp
Lavery would be a better bet than Done
Lafferty isn't very good and we should play Done there instead
Ebanks-Landell is good but no world-beater and not irreplaceable
Scougall won't make it at this club
The team lacks pace
We will be promoted in auto

Anyhow - I know I can't be right about all these things, possibly, but as long as I'm right about the last one that will do. Meanwhile though, I do think some of you should just give Clarke a break and try and appreciate him for what he can bring to the team, in a striker role alongside Billy.

He scored 18 goals last season for a poor Bury team and he only played about 30 games. He's now looking fully fit and quite sharp if you ask me - so let's see how sharp he is with Sharp?

Of coarse CW will tell us that Clarke can play with Sharp. He will not have a go at Clarke because Clarke for some reason managed to get a three year contract .....
He has been poor so far and as we progress to the Championship he certainly won't get any better...
Clarke looks the type that knows he has just landed his final pay day to me.
If he can manage to win us a few points to gain us promotion then we can debate whether he was worth it. At present he offers something different but looks lazy.... In my opinion certainly not showing the faith shown in a 3 year deal.

 

[blade too long]

be nice if we win 4-1 today Done 2 Clarke 2

just to shut everyone the fuck up

 

[Bert]

, some of us think he's nowt but a lazy ex pig

Exactly how many times have you seen him play this season?

 

[jt64]

The partnership is not perfect, in fact Wilder withdrew Done early against Oldham because he was doing nothing productive and this wasn't the first time he's had an early finish lately. Clarke has had a few opportunities to make the shirt his and has done nothing to hang on to it, I like Leon coming on from the bench as an impact sub. Lavery is the mystery at the minute, a few little cameo's and glimpses of quality but Wilder obviously doesn't think he's the perfect partner for Billy either (at the minute anyway). Would be very surprised if Wilder's big signing in January isn't a striker as the 3 listed above cannot hold down the shirt.

We've scored more goals than every team below us in the league. What's the issue?

 

[Barney]

I disagree with him but if Chris Wilder's telling me I'm wrong then fair enough I'm probably wrong.

 

[Rodley]

Done in laffertys position can you not remember Southend last season?

Read that bit and then tapped out of the rest.

 

[JonnyRed(WCFC)]

Boy you're up with the lark talking about Clarke and Sharp.
Emerged from under your Tarp or off to catch a Carp?
It's still very dark to be taking a walk in the park wondering today who is going to make their mark.
You know your title will promote you as the Nark but remember as you disembark on your way to our great Ark that it may become stark that Clarke and Sharp have already had the spark so that they prowl like shark allowing Cerberus to quieten his bark.

Did you find it aardvark writing such a lark?

 

[DronnieBlade]

Of course they can play together.

They're just not an effective partnership in our system.

We've played pretty badly every time they've started together.

Let's give them another run of games together despite us winning more and looking better when we start with a different pair. Doesn't matter if we drop a few points again if they start to gel by mid February...

Wilder isn't going to say 'Billy and Leon can't play together'. He says it how it is but he isn't going to basically tell Leon that as long as Billy is about then he has no chance of starting.

And the last bit of this really is the thrust of it.

Clarke has been on the bench and will continue to be on the bench for a reason !! The MANAGER is making this decision, and you have to ask why he is saying what he is saying. To appease Clarke who may be getting cheesed off with being sub ??

Although with there being 2 games in 3 days, I suspect he may start in one (probably Bury rather than today).

But overall I think Clarkes agent has taken Wilders words a bit too literally !!

UTB

 

[Bergen Blade]

I try to avoid being harsh or too sure about things in football, so won't rule out Sharp and Clarke doing well, but the balance of the team must be right. Having enough pace/movement from someone in the attacking positions is the biggest challenge. It also remains to be seen if our pressing game would suffer.

The Oldham and Chesterfield matches where Clarke came on and played a part gives hope, but it's a bit different to them starting together. It would have been interesting to hear Wilder elaborate more on how what it will take for them to work together, as well as his thoughts on their poor record when starting them:

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We've scored more goals than every team below us in the league. What's the issue?

Score a lot more with a better strike partner than Done.

 

[boo radley]

Did you find it aardvark writing such a lark?

That took some brain cells to muster to create a reply from the boy from Wuster.

 

[South Bucks]

Poor old Lavery is probably thinking "Done can't shoot, the jury is out on Clarke and yet all I get is a few minutes on the pitch and score one and hit the post twice against Coventry and look lively. I must be doing something fairly wrong off the pitch if I can't get a start in the team and folk think we need another striker."

 

[Darthblade]

Not me saying that...

“There is a lot of nonsense spoken that Leon and Billy can’t play together,” said Wilder. “For me, it’s absolute garbage".

But our manager Chrissy is saying it.

We seem to have a fair few on here who keep coming out with this rubbish that Clarke can't play with Sharp. So, if you're one of them, take note of what Chris is saying to you. You're wrong - and he's right. And I back him 100% on that.

For the record I've said before that:

Done isn't a striker
Clarke can play with Sharp
Lavery would be a better bet than Done
Lafferty isn't very good and we should play Done there instead
Ebanks-Landell is good but no world-beater and not irreplaceable
Scougall won't make it at this club
The team lacks pace
We will be promoted in auto

Anyhow - I know I can't be right about all these things, possibly, but as long as I'm right about the last one that will do. Meanwhile though, I do think some of you should just give Clarke a break and try and appreciate him for what he can bring to the team, in a striker role alongside Billy.

He scored 18 goals last season for a poor Bury team and he only played about 30 games. He's now looking fully fit and quite sharp if you ask me - so let's see how sharp he is with Sharp?

Sorry mate ...... can't agree with some of these ....... just my opinion of course but;

Done isn't a striker ........ I don't think hes an effective striker ..... great work-rate but little end product - surely an area for improvement.
Clarke can play with Sharp ....... he can play with him but it's not an effective partnership - they play too far apart for Billy to play off him.
Lavery would be a better bet than Done ...... possibly - we will have to wait to see if Tufty gives him the nod.
Lafferty isn't very good and we should play Done there instead ....... Lafferty is one of the areas for improvement in the squad ( Hussy isn't the answer) as his crossing is gash.
Ebanks-Landell is good but no world-beater and not irreplaceable ...... EEL is solid at L1 level but an unknown quantity at championship level. Wolves fans seem to think he's not upto Champ standard. Another area for strengthening regardless of if he stays.
Scougall won't make it at this club ........ tend to agree. Doesn't get enough protection from referees at this level and never will so he's largely ineffective. May be useful squad player IF we get promoted.
The team lacks pace ........ agreed - we're quite pedestrian at times and this is an area that certainly needs addressing.
We will be promoted in auto ....... will entirely depend upon the Jan transfer window dealings. We are in a strong position, however, we cannot and should not rely on Scunny falling away ( remember Burton last year ) and Bolton will continue to be strong in L1. We need to bring in the 4 quality players that we need to give us a strong enough squad to maintain and improve our position.

At this stage I would say keep the faith in Tufty, back the team for the rest of the season and hope that the Board recognise the opportunity here and financially back Tufty to finish the job he's started this season.

UTB & FTP

 

[Slim Man]

Erm erm Did I not read, only two minutes ago that Clarke banged 18 Goals into the old onion bag only last season ? Me thinks someone is being a tad harsh on the lad. I dont give a flying fuck that he once played for the wendy. He can be as lazy as he cares to be if he comes close to anything like that many goals for us. FFS he is one of ours. Cut him some slack.

Some are blinded by the fact he played for the pigs against us. And regularly scored against us for his other clubs.

Ridiculous

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Chris is the first manager we've had that if he tells me I am wrong then I'll sit here and agree that I am wrong.
Just goes to show what a man he is and what a job he's doing for this club.

I mostly agree with that, and there have been plenty of instances where he's done something I thought wasn't the right decision and it's paid dividends. But he has on occasions got things wrong and will every now and again get things wrong. The difference in the starting line up in formation and make-up from the opening game to our current XI highlights some examples of this. I'm hopeful that regardless of his assurances they can play together we won't be seeing Sharp & Clarke starting again for the foreseeable. I don't rule out it could work, I just don't think we can afford to waste time (and points) persevereing with it till it clicks.

 

[Lane Ender]

Some are blinded by the fact he played for the pigs against us. And regularly scored against us for his other clubs.

Ridiculous

That's the past.
If he dons the red and white and does the business he'll do for me

 

[Leonardo Green]

look at goals scored and points taken with them 2 starting together. end of thread.

 

[South Bucks]

look at goals scored and points taken with them 2 starting together. end of thread.

And we still haven't beaten any of the top seven teams in league one this season, me thinks it will be difficult to finish in the top two if we can't improve on this. Think we should aspire to more than just the play offs.

 

[Grappler]

What's wrong with Done starting a game and being subbed for Clarke in the second half? It seems to work? We have to cut our cloth accordingly, in these current times.

I don't buy into this "Clarke is a cart horse" mentality. The pace he showed when he came on against Chesterfield was surprising for a big lad. I am not a gambler, but in seasons gone by, if you wanted to put money on something, then "Leon Clarke to score a goal against Sheffield United" would be the closest to a sure-fire bet that there is.

Clarke went 100% for the header last week, that opened the opportunity for Billy to score his second, he didn't nesh it, he didn't seem to worry about getting injured, he just went for it.

None of us know what CW is saying to Clarke, or has said to him in the past, but we do know that CW seems to be a good man manager/motivator.

Finally, not a world beater, but this goal, when he came back from injury (around the 38 second mark), was good old fashioned pouncing on an opportunity, showing a bit of pace and a clinical, powerful finish.

If he can do that 10 times this season, then great. Let's have faith in CW, no matter what, he is doing fine so far.

 

[Pinchy]

OP seems obsessed with changing the perfectly working Sharp/Done partnership - see this thread, a previous Clarke thread, a previous some guy from Chesterfield thread. And we're the ones talking garbage?

You are. It's not working perfectly. That's why Runaround keeps getting the hook and will be benched in the New Year (hopefully sooner). Leon Clarke is a far better footballer. Ted's 'pig' tantrum says a great deal more about him than it does Leon.

 

[Pinchy]

And we still haven't beaten any of the top seven teams in league one this season

You don't know which are the top seven teams in League One. That will be determined in April/May as will the question of how many of them we have beaten.

 

[Leonardo Green]

4 of the top 7 we played when we were shit i.e. first 4 games

the other 2 we got good away draws

 

[GreenyTheBlade]

Clarke starts today

 

[Pinchy]

Well Done Tufty. Car park circuit protest planned by mediocrity loving Runarounders.

 

[jt64]

You are. It's not working perfectly. That's why Runaround keeps getting the hook and will be benched in the New Year (hopefully sooner). Leon Clarke is a far better footballer. Ted's 'pig' tantrum says a great deal more about him than it does Leon.

Heaven forbid that it may be part of a gameplan to tire out the defenders and then release fresh legs on them in the final half hour. You probably think Leicester should have replaced Okazaki with a proven goalscorer at that level

 

[Pinchy]

Heaven forbid that it may be part of a gameplan to tire out the defenders and then release fresh legs on them in the final half hour. You probably think Leicester should have replaced Okazaki with a proven goalscorer at that level

Your mediocre hero is benched today. Do you understand why?

The fuck I was going to give about a Leicester player is in use by someone else...

❤. ❤⚔.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Leon Higdon won't be here long. He's an overweight lazy mess.

 

[jt64]

Your mediocre hero is benched today. Do you understand why?

To allow me to bet draw HT/Blades FT once Wilder realises it still doesn't work I think. 3/1 is nice

 

[Good Pinch Of Snuff]

Leon scores today and we win

 

[Pinchy]

To allow me to bet draw HT/Blades FT once Wilder realises it still doesn't work I think. 3/1 is nice

Wilder doesn't give any thought to people who don't understand the game. Do you understand why Runaround Nogoals has been dropped? There's a clue in the previous sentence.