Charlton - league one's biggest club

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I can't think of any possible way anybody could possibly see Charlton as league one's biggest club.

TBH for me it's not about who is or isn't anyway, it's more about Robinson actually coming out with such a obviously stupid statement in the first place, clearly just to get the supporters onside.

I know managers will say just about anything to curry favour, but they should remember to try and retain a bit of credibility at the same time.

Most successful club in the last 15 years or so by a country mile. Established Prem side for a number of seasons. Pisses on our 1 season in the sunshine.
 
Randomly came across this madness

"Possibly Sheffield United would be regarded as a bigger club" he posts straight after a table that shows we are averaging almost 10,000 more than them.

Honestly, it's increddible people think there is a debate. Can you imagine how laughable Bolton and Charltons attendances would be in their 6th season in League One?

http://intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/20419/robinson-charlton-biggest-club-league
 
Last major final reached:

Bradford 2013
Bolton 2004
Charlton 1947
United 1936


Surely the Championship Play Off Final counts as a major final considering whats at stake these days...

Which would mean...

Blades 2003 (wanky Wolves)

Charlton 1997..the Mendonca final.


Not that it overly matters in the scheme of things, the Blades are the biggest club in L1 unequivocally as the support has stuck with them through thin and thin..the Coventry and Bolton types have been like rats deserting a sinking ship!
 
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Surely the Championship Play Off Final counts as a major final considering whats at stake these days...

Which would mean...

Blades 2003 (wanky Wolves)

Charlton 1997..the Mendonca final.


Not that it overly matters in the scheme of things, the Blades are the biggest club in L1 unequivocally as the support has stuck with them through thin and thin..the Coventry and Bolton types have been like rats deserting a sinking ship!
It might be painful for me to remind you, but we also got to the Championship Play Off final against Burnley, 2009.
 
The official SUFCinks table updated as of - 10:00am - Fri 30th Dec 2016.

Ive segregated teams into groups of a similar size. Positions towards the bottom were tricky to rank as they are a lot more subjective as there isnt as much to go on.


1st - Sheff U
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2nd - Bolton
3rd - Bradford
4th - Charlton
5th - Coventry
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6th - Oxford
7th - Millwall
8th - Peterborough
9th - MK Dons
10th - Scunthorpe
11th - Bristol Rovers
12th - Chesterfield
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13th - Northampton
14th - AFC Wimbledon
15th - Swindon
16th - Gillingham
17th - Oldham
18th - Rochdale
19th - Walsall
20th - Southend
21st - Port Vale
22nd - Bury
23rd - Fleetwood
24th - Shrewsbury
 
SUFCinks,

First you have to define what is meant by "big club".
Tradionally it's support or potential support because that tradionally a fanbase governs finances which usually leads to more success.
A good factor to determine potential support is stadium capacity.
A general guide is the bigger the club then the bigger the stadium:

However now we have the PL it's confused things a little because now even the smallest clubs can have massive finances and the power that goes with that. Hence why little clubs like Swansea and Bournmouth etc can arguably be called "big clubs"

Also history is normally a factor is defining a big club but how far do we go back?
I've heard many refer to Leeds United as traditionally a big club, but their success only started from the mid 1960's. Before 1960 Huddersfield Town were the the big club of West Yorkshire winning the league 3 times in the 1920's. Leeds were a nothing club from 1920 to 1960.

I saw a league table a few months back where someone gave a rating for several categories than determine size. I think we came 18th on the list of biggest clubs with Wednesday 14th biggest.

Also regards your list I'd put Coventry and Charlton above Bradford. The Battams are a small club really but do have great potential fanbase. I'd also move Scunthorpe and Chesterfield from the middle group to the bottom group and I'd move Swindon Town up to the middle group. Fleetwood are by far the smallest club in league 1 and should be in a section by themselves.
 
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Defining a big club is indeed a difficult task....


If you'd have said massive instead...well.......
 



SUFCinks,

First you have to define what is meant by "big club".
Tradionally it's support or potential support because that tradionally a fanbase governs finances which usually leads to more success.
A good factor to determine potential support is stadium capacity.
A general guide is the bigger the club then the bigger the stadium:

However now we have the PL it's confused things a little because now even the smallest clubs can have massive finances and the power that goes with that. Hence why little clubs like Swansea and Bournmouth etc can arguably be called "big clubs"

Also history is normally a factor is defining a big club but how far do we go back?
I've heard many refer to Leeds United as traditionally a big club, but their success only started from the mid 1960's. Before 1960 Huddersfield Town were the the big club of West Yorkshire winning the league 3 times in the 1920's. Leeds were a nothing club from 1920 to 1960.

I saw a league table a few months back where someone gave a rating for several categories than determine size. I think we came 18th on the list of biggest clubs with Wednesday 14th biggest.

Also regards your list I'd put Coventry and Charlton above Bradford. The Battams are a small club really but do have great potential fanbase. I'd also move Scunthorpe and Chesterfield from the middle group to the bottom group and I'd move Swindon Town up to the middle group. Fleetwood are by far the smallest club in league 1 and should be in a section by themselves.k

But fleetwood do have a bit of money and a decent chairman at the moment. coventry are getting tiny crowds at the moment and have been for a few years unlike bradford, charlton could be above bradford but I recon bradford being a 1 club city and with their higher attendances are proving they have a better fan base than charlton
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This is a reflection of current standings with historical inputs taken into consideration. All subjective.

We are basically the barcelona of the league and everyone else should worship us before kick off for letting them play on our prestigious ground and aginst our holy players .
 
Charlton have mostly been a 2nd division club, they probably would not have existed had Arsenal had not relocated to north London. Only recently have the had a decent run in the top flight otherwise apart from a few seasons before the war they have been a lower league club comparable to close neighbours Millwall.
 
I hate the media darling scouse prick... he thought he was destined for big things and a big prem club... hope he gets the sack again.

And relax.
 
To be fair I always forget about Burnley...

But that's because I didn't go... was our cup final and we played on BDTBL that day and did the double... could have been the greatest day ever instead was just a great day...
 

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