Incoming? Ched Evans

[blade67]

It sounds worryingly believable.

If they decide against it then they have some explaining to do. Especially if he goes to a rival and fires them to promotion.

The majority of fans want him back. He's a quality player. 250k would be incredibly cheap. We need another reliable striker.

What reasons are there not to sign him? I've got an open mind and I've not seen a single good reason.

If they do refuse to sanction it then they better fund the signing of another quality striker. Although I'm extremely doubtful we could get the same value with anybody else.

the only legit concern with Ched is injuries. Players who've been out this length of time tend to take 12 to 18 months to get their bodies back to where they need to be. I think he'll be amazing next season at this level but will spend the balance of this season picking up niggles and strains whilst his body readjusts.

Ched will probably still be playing professional football well into his late 30s though

 

[Good Pinch Of Snuff]

Bumped into someone who is usually "in the know" today, on my way to BDTBL, and he says the Ched deal is off. According to him, SUFC and Chesterfield agreed a fee of £250,000 some weeks ago, Ched wants to come back, but the board is split, and with everything (seemingly) going well on the pitch and behind closed doors, there is a reluctance to change things.

Take it with a pinch of salt, but this bloke has been correct on the last few things he told me.

my mate at the club is telling me its already been sorted and Ched will be a Blade again in January. Lets see come the JTW

 

[Ricky]

the only legit concern with Ched is injuries. Players who've been out this length of time tend to take 12 to 18 months to get their bodies back to where they need to be. I think he'll be amazing next season at this level but will spend the balance of this season picking up niggles and strains whilst his body readjusts.

Ched will probably still be playing professional football well into his late 30s though

Yep, that's the only concern I'd have. And it isn't even a concern to be honest.

He's a naturally fit type, has no real history of being injury prone and for what he'd probably cost it wouldn't even matter too much if he missed most games this season, as long as he does get fully fit and ready for next season. Whichever league we're in.

 

[Danny_Boy]

Don't believe anything anyone tells you at the game or online. I'm sure some people do genuinely get bits of info from inside the club but 95% of what people say and post is either blatant attention seeking by saddos or Chinese whispers. Wait till Jan and let's see what happens, personally I'd take not signing anyone if that means we don't sell anyone. Important we keep this squad together and firing.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I think he'll be amazing next season at this level

Thing is we won't be at this level.

He'll be ideal for Shrewsbury, its nearly home but can't see them staying up.

Will Wolves drop?

or will it be Cardiff?

 

[itsinyerblood]

Mmmmm......I wish I could understand this infatuation with Evans. He had one outstanding season for us a few years ago. Before that, well not exactly the £3 million signing we'd hoped for. In fact, I'd describe his performances as disappointing. Now we're back on what looks like a promotion push, and the reasons for strengthening in January are obvious - injuries, loss of form etc could all derail our chances of securing promotion. This obsession with Evans is akin to the second coming, it's as if he'd be viewed as fulfilling his destiny or ours. To be truthful it's becoming a bore-fest of humongous proportions, so much so I wonder if those who write urging us to sign him are constantly in a state of constant erection over this? Evans isn't the answer, someone else may be, but his time came and went, now it's time to move on and not allow memories of a one season wonder to cloud the objectivity that's needed where new signings are concerned.

 

[Ricky]

If Evans isn't the answer for what could be as little as 250k, then there is no answer.

What I can't understand is how anyone can't understand the interest in him given that he scored 35 in 42 for us in the division we're currently in, looked a cut above and every inch a £3m player. Anyone who watched him should have realised that it was more than being a one season wonder.
Add to that how well he's readjusted to the game, how he's performed for a poor side, how much better he'd do in our good team, how little we could possibly get him for and the sense of unfinished business and it's extremely difficult not to see the appeal in re-signing him.

 

[BladeInIreland]

If we could get him for that then It's a no brainer.

I don't thing there would be a negative reaction if he came back, actually I think it would give most of the fans a huge boost. A bit of fire back in our bellies. The ched saga was a large thorn in our side and a symbol of our time in this division. We would of got promoted that season, I think signing him back this season would give that extra belief to get us over the line.

Now iv only seen him this season against us , but he looked a class above. His strength, with some pace , he looked the ched of old. For 250k we would be stupid not to sign him.

 

[Revolution]

If Evans isn't the answer for what could be as little as 250k, then there is no answer.

What I can't understand is how anyone can't understand the interest in him given that he scored 35 in 42 for us in the division we're currently in, looked a cut above and every inch a £3m player. Anyone who watched him should have realised that it was more than being a one season wonder.
Add to that how well he's readjusted to the game, how he's performed for a poor side, how much better he'd do in our good team, how little we could possibly get him for and the sense of unfinished business and it's extremely difficult not to see the appeal in re-signing him.

Everything Evans achieved was 5 years ago, after 2 years of poor performances. He is the poster boy for being a one season wonder.

Anyway, you were telling us for months that Clarke was the answer. That has been shown not to be the case, and I don't think you're right about Evans either?

And do a majority of our supporters want him back? Must have missed that referendum. I don't want him within 10 miles if our club, and I know I'm not the only one.

I agree there is unfinished business though. He owes all Blades fans an apology.

 

[Bladesman]

If we could get him for that then It's a no brainer.

I don't thing there would be a negative reaction if he came back, actually I think it would give most of the fans a huge boost. A bit of fire back in our bellies. The ched saga was a large thorn in our side and a symbol of our time in this division. We would of got promoted that season, I think signing him back this season would give that extra belief to get us over the line.

Now iv only seen him this season against us , but he looked a class above. His strength, with some pace , he looked the ched of old. For 250k we would be stupid not to sign him.

I think it is worth trying to sign him especially with the troubles going on at Chessie.

There should be no media reaction to his return as he has cleared his name.

 

[Ricky]

Everything Evans achieved was 5 years ago, after 2 years of poor performances. He is the poster boy for being a one season wonder.

Anyway, you were telling us for months that Clarke was the answer. That has been shown not to be the case, and I don't think you're right about Evans either?

And do a majority of our supporters want him back? Must have missed that referendum. I don't want him within 10 miles if our club, and I know I'm not the only one.

I agree there is unfinished business though. He owes all Blades fans an apology.

I've not been saying Clarke is the answer for months so don't make shit up. He's not played enough to be written off anyway. Most of his appearances have been with Sharp which handicaps him.

Done's a one season wonder. Average ability yet scores a good number of goals, not done before or since. Evans scored nearly a goal a game, and was a cut above - powerful shooting, making his own space and chances, etc. There was clearly more to come from him. Anyone with football knowledge could see that. Not only that but he also had good spells previously, including one at Norwich. I also think his efforts for a poor Chesterfield team this season after 4+ years out prove he's not a one season wonder - what would he be doing in a better team with no enforced absence from the game? He has obvious ability. He will continue to do well in this league and possibly higher. But I know there's probably no convincing you.

The majority wanted him back in 2014 and the majority want him back now from what I've seen. Might do a poll soon.

 

[pheasant FC]

January swop Lavery for Ched.

Lavery for ched , you clown

 

[bartman]

The majority wanted him back in 2014 and the majority want him back now from what I've seen. Might do a poll soon.

Really ? The majority wanted a player back who had't played professional football for a number of years ? And the majority want him back now ? Really ?

This obsession with some fans with a player who has scored a handful of goals in an injury prone season in quite amusing to observe

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

If we could get him for that then It's a no brainer.

I don't thing there would be a negative reaction if he came back, actually I think it would give most of the fans a huge boost. A bit of fire back in our bellies. The ched saga was a large thorn in our side and a symbol of our time in this division. We would of got promoted that season, I think signing him back this season would give that extra belief to get us over the line.

Now iv only seen him this season against us , but he looked a class above. His strength, with some pace , he looked the ched of old. For 250k we would be stupid not to sign him.

Still have a gut feeling that Ched will score the goal at MK Dons that will win us promotion/and or the title.

Unfinished business, get him signed in the JTW

 

[pheasant FC]

Everything Evans achieved was 5 years ago, after 2 years of poor performances. He is the poster boy for being a one season wonder.

Anyway, you were telling us for months that Clarke was the answer. That has been shown not to be the case, and I don't think you're right about Evans either?

And do a majority of our supporters want him back? Must have missed that referendum. I don't want him within 10 miles if our club, and I know I'm not the only one.

I agree there is unfinished business though. He owes all Blades fans an apology.

Totally agree Rev , well said

 

[itsinyerblood]

Really ? The majority wanted a player back who had't played professional football for a number of years ? And the majority want him back now ? Really ?

This obsession with some fans with a player who has scored a handful of goals in an injury prone season in quite amusing to observe

Doncha just love this type of blinkered denial of what separates the past from the future? Ched is that good? Can't recall Chris Coleman asking for his services? Or any club of significance bidding for his signature? Still, why let a fantasy get in the way of decisions based on clinical assessments? I love the mythology that supports the phrase "Unfinished business". It tugs at the heartstrings, or at least it does for those who hark back to a memory that was only relevant a few years ago. Can't say I blame piling on of such comments as "the majority of fans want this........", they lend weight to an opinion based on nothing more scientific than having a stiffy for someone who once wore the red and white stripes.........also love the idea of a poll, as if a few votes, let's say a grand total of 28, one way or t'other, equates with a successful outcome that offers anything other than 28 votes.......god help us from flat-earthers!

 

[andy m]

Really ? The majority wanted a player back who had't played professional football for a number of years ? And the majority want him back now ? Really ?

This obsession with some fans with a player who has scored a handful of goals in an injury prone season in quite amusing to observe

I want him back.

 

[Pierre's PC]

I want him back.

I don't so that cancels that out.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I want him back.

That's one.....standing here in my thermals and wooly gloves, hurry up, I'm assuming the first thousand will be along in the next couple of hours....you know, the majority?

 

[DronnieBlade]

Bumped from my post in November

Q. If he could work with Billy it would be a dream pairing.

Goals galore

My A. Trust me on this one. It would work a treat.

Reason ?

Both have the intelligence and "nouce" to understand what each other wants, in terms of runs, supply, and where to be on the pitch at any given time.

We have seen how effective Coutts and Fleck have been recently. Mostly for exactly the same reasons.

How many times has Sharp delivered quality balls in to the box already this season ?

Who has been on the end ???

And it would work the other way as well with Ched providing quality supply for Billy.

I like Done and all he does for the side. But he is limited.

But Done isn't Ched, who would be a massive upgrade on what we already have as a partner for Sharp.

UTB

Nothing has changed my view that Ched would be a major upgrade on Done, Clarke and Lavery. Purely footballing reasons not sentimental !!

UTB

 

[Ricky]

Doncha just love this type of blinkered denial of what separates the past from the future? Ched is that good? Can't recall Chris Coleman asking for his services? Or any club of significance bidding for his signature? Still, why let a fantasy get in the way of decisions based on clinical assessments? I love the mythology that supports the phrase "Unfinished business". It tugs at the heartstrings, or at least it does for those who hark back to a memory that was only relevant a few years ago. Can't say I blame piling on of such comments as "the majority of fans want this........", they lend weight to an opinion based on nothing more scientific than having a stiffy for someone who once wore the red and white stripes.........also love the idea of a poll, as if a few votes, let's say a grand total of 28, one way or t'other, equates with a successful outcome that offers anything other than 28 votes.......god help us from flat-earthers!

Coleman wasn't Wales manager when Ched was here. Ched was playing for Wales previously. And he will do again.

The reason he didn't move to a bigger club was his court case. Before and after his conviction. Before and after his 35 goal season.

You use words like 'fantasy' and 'blinkered' yet there are strong arguments for every point supporting Evans, and they outweigh the arguments against him.

This site has thousands of members, and hundreds of active ones. Would a poll with 500 votes be meaningless? Especially if the results were strongly one way or the other? I think not.

I also think the reception he got from us at Chesterfield spoke volumes.

 

[Bladesman]

Doncha just love this type of blinkered denial of what separates the past from the future? Ched is that good? Can't recall Chris Coleman asking for his services? Or any club of significance bidding for his signature? Still, why let a fantasy get in the way of decisions based on clinical assessments? I love the mythology that supports the phrase "Unfinished business". It tugs at the heartstrings, or at least it does for those who hark back to a memory that was only relevant a few years ago. Can't say I blame piling on of such comments as "the majority of fans want this........", they lend weight to an opinion based on nothing more scientific than having a stiffy for someone who once wore the red and white stripes.........also love the idea of a poll, as if a few votes, let's say a grand total of 28, one way or t'other, equates with a successful outcome that offers anything other than 28 votes.......god help us from flat-earthers!

He is a goalscorer regardless of unfinished business.

• Matt Done 22 appearances this season and only 2 goals.
• Ched Evans 18 appearances this season and 7 goals despite not being up to full fitness.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee, we are shopping in the bargin bin these days for players. We won't be paying more than 500k for any player unless we have sold someone first.

Ched is a striker with 6 months left on his deal and is going cheap. It is clear even the likes Bogle are out of our price range.

 

[itsinyerblood]

Coleman wasn't Wales manager when Ched was here. Ched was playing for Wales previously. And he will do again.

The reason he didn't move to a bigger club was his court case. Before and after his conviction. Before and after his 35 goal season.

You use words like 'fantasy' and 'blinkered' yet there are strong arguments for every point supporting Evans, and they outweigh the arguments against him.

This site has thousands of members, and hundreds of active ones. Would a poll with 500 votes be meaningless? Especially if the results were strongly one way or the other? I think not.

I also think the reception he got from us at Chesterfield spoke volumes.

Yep, that's convincing .......maybe you haven't noticed, CC is Wales' manager, present tense is all that counts. I'd love to see a poll where 500 dedicated Blades voted, get busy, times running out. Trouble is Herbert, you make statements suggesting that there are arguments that support your point of view, thus swamping the opposite point of view........what you don't explain is how exactly are these opposite views outweighed? By what determinable set of opinions does the opinion you hold to be correct arrive at such an assertion? Heard on the grapevine there's a Wales 'lads night out' team, seems perfect for a man of Ched's talents, and a possible step towards the inevitable Ched revival I guess. Keep banging that drum Herb...

 

[Ricky]

Yep, that's convincing .......maybe you haven't noticed, CC is Wales' manager, present tense is all that counts. I'd love to see a poll where 500 dedicated Blades voted, get busy, times running out. Trouble is Herbert, you make statements suggesting that there are arguments that support your point of view, thus swamping the opposite point of view........what you don't explain is how exactly are these opposite views outweighed? By what determinable set of opinions does the opinion you hold to be correct arrive at such an assertion? Heard on the grapevine there's a Wales 'lads night out' team, seems perfect for a man of Ched's talents, and a possible step towards the inevitable Ched revival I guess. Keep banging that drum Herb...

Wales have played very few games since Ched returned. He was never going to be recalled for international duty this quickly. Simply not necessary, for anybody. This is obvious, that's why I only referred to previous years.

I've seen all the arguments for and against his return, all the arguments about his previous, current and future ability as a player and I've got an open mind. The arguments supporting him are stronger. It's very hard to deny that he'd offer us something on the pitch, and the reasons not to sign him simply aren't very strong.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I didn't mean public interest, I'm not bothered about that at all. I mean interest from other clubs. If he's quiet until January then I don't think many Championship clubs will be too desperate to take a punt on him. As it stands it's set up quite nicely for us to sign him.

Villa are watching him.

 

[bartman]

He is a goalscorer regardless of unfinished business.

• Matt Done 22 appearances this season and only 2 goals.
• Ched Evans 18 appearances this season and 7 goals despite not being up to full fitness.

People need to wake up and smell the coffee, we are shopping in the bargin bin these days for players. We won't be paying more than 500k for any player unless we have sold someone first.

Ched is a striker with 6 months left on his deal and is going cheap. It is clear even the likes Bogle are out of our price range.

Ched has already missed a third of the league season though injury . For this reason he is too much of a risk for a promotion push in my opinion

 

[itsinyerblood]

Wales have played very few games since Ched returned. He was never going to be recalled for international duty this quickly. Simply not necessary, for anybody. This is obvious, that's why I only referred to previous years.

I've seen all the arguments for and against his return, all the arguments about his previous, current and future ability as a player and I've got an open mind. The arguments supporting him are stronger. It's very hard to deny that he'd offer us something on the pitch, and the reasons not to sign him simply aren't very strong.

What, you mean other than we are currently second in this division without the services of Ched?

Yes, I do understand why you might feel he could score goals, more than Done who seems incapable of scoring (and I talk as someone who recognises Done's contribution to why we're currently second). I just happen to feel that this particular boat has left port never to return. A shame of course, but it happens so you look forward to newer, even improved models. I've no thoughts on Bogle, I leave the signings to the man paid to make those choices. I think this has all the traits of a Sam Morsy story, where the only people mentioning Evans are those who drool over his past rather than his future. Listen, if he were to sign I'd hope he does well, but I somehow suspect Santa has other presents waiting to be unwrapped.

 

[Sean Thornton]

If Evans isn't the answer for what could be as little as 250k, then there is no answer.

What I can't understand is how anyone can't understand the interest in him given that he scored 35 in 42 for us in the division we're currently in, looked a cut above and every inch a £3m player. Anyone who watched him should have realised that it was more than being a one season wonder.
Add to that how well he's readjusted to the game, how he's performed for a poor side, how much better he'd do in our good team, how little we could possibly get him for and the sense of unfinished business and it's extremely difficult not to see the appeal in re-signing him.

Where's 250k come from? Is there any evidence that that's the fee? I have no idea and I doubt many do. It's looking like aboard beating stick to me, only £250k bah, etc. Most sides in thechampuonship could pay him loads more than us and as a young man who's lost an important part of his career, the financial side would, I'd guess be paramount.
This unfinished business scenario really is sentimental crap.

My only concern with CE though is it may take until next season to be rid of his understandable niggly injuries. If I'm right that makes him a risk ( after all some don't want Brayford back for the same reason) A risk we've taken before thats cost us dearly.

 

[Bladesman]

Villa are watching him.

Are they? This was their chairman on Twitter:



I think other clubs have been looking at Ched though.

 

[Ricky]

Where's 250k come from? Is there any evidence that that's the fee? I have no idea and I doubt many do. It's looking like aboard beating stick to me, only £250k bah, etc. Most sides in thechampuonship could pay him loads more than us and as a young man who's lost an important part of his career, the financial side would, I'd guess be paramount.
This unfinished business scenario really is sentimental crap.

My only concern with CE though is it may take until next season to be rid of his understandable niggly injuries. If I'm right that makes him a risk ( after all some don't want Brayford back for the same reason) A risk we've taken before thats cost us dearly.

Just the odd rumour and bits of speculation. Chesterfield are desperate too so maybe it wouldn't take much. Although I would expect 350k+.

I think we could offer him a competitive enough deal with a promotion bonus and wage increase. Then hopefully the sentimental stuff would swing it. But if there are no Championship offers then it would be easy to agree terms with him.

The risk/reward ratio is good with Evans though. He wouldn't cost that much, he would likely get over these injuries and could easily reach a value in excess of what we spent on him in the first place.