Chant era 1968-ish

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What is your problem? You post something fairly random which appears to be a question about a song, but isn't very clear what your point was. I try to answer it and get a slightly patronising response, which I tried to take the 'right way' and 'liked'. Despite the obvious 'anorak' connotations.

Then you post again about 'posters denigrating innocent posts'. That's plural, that clearly included me as I was one of the few to reply and the only other post that could be considered to be denigrating was Jim's.

I'll take one dig, but keep having a go and I'll bite back.

I suggest you put me on ignore as I've no intention of having any further interaction with you.

Leave me out of it ;)

I was just confused because it's a song which has been sung at just about every game I've been to in the last 30 years. Just wasn't sure where IIYB was coming from :)
 

Leave me out of it ;)

I was just confused because it's a song which has been sung at just about every game I've been to in the last 30 years. Just wasn't sure where IIYB was coming from :)

Fair point Jim. It was just a random observation, perhaps not even factually correct, and something quite innocent was, as Tyler has identified, quickly escalating into something altogether unintended........oh well, such is the forum, just a good thing it's not that important.
 
And Jack Charlton being dead in 1889 does? ;)

Its this lyric that first made me think about existence, specifically if you are 'dead' before you are born.

Apart from linguistic niceties, I think the answer is 'Yes' or at least as good as dead before you are conceived.
 
Its this lyric that first made me think about existence,

And critics claim that football is not an intelligent game. Who'd have thought that discussion of Cartesian circles and the origins of life itself would crop up in a simple football chant?

I think there is a post grad thesis for someone with a beard and glasses from one of the Polys (er, sorry 'Unis') to investigate further.

I'm off to put the kettle on.
 
And Jack Charlton being dead in 1889 does? ;)

Its this lyric that first made me think about existence, specifically if you are 'dead' before you are born.

Apart from linguistic niceties, I think the answer is 'Yes' or at least as good as dead before you are conceived.

We've had this argument before. The conclusion was that "the year is 1889" (or "every year is 1889") is figurative, analogous to being "in heaven", when you mean "having a nice time". So, "1889" simply means "a great year" in that song's context.
 
Why do people jump down each others throats so easily on this site, we're all supposed to be blades and be "united". Its like entering a pound full of snarling alsatians sometimes and I can see why many give it a miss.

Re the original post, I always liked
"Cheer up David Pleeet
Oh what can it mean
To be a kerb crawling barstool
With a ........
 
Why do people jump down each others throats so easily on this site, we're all supposed to be blades and be "united". Its like entering a pound full of snarling alsatians sometimes and I can see why many give it a miss.

Re the original post, I always liked
"Cheer up David Pleeet
Oh what can it mean
To be a kerb crawling barstool
With a ........

Good point Mr Bucks, but be patient and you'll find that the notion of sharing a 'united' perspective is sometimes difficult to maintain. Of course it would be lovely if we agreed on everything, but the forum is simply a reflection of the world at large, therefore disagreements happen - if you're not aware of this try and find a thread that refers to Ched Evans. This should, once and for all, dispel all thoughts of there being a unified set of views.......but, it doesn't alter your fundamental view that we should sometimes make more of an effort to get on UTB
 
Bite away, but it's silly behaviour and I suspect you're better than that. By all means choose to 'ignore' me if that's your thing, but I'd prefer we had a healthy and constructive communication when necessary......or is that too much to ask?
IIYB, you have a tendency to reply viciously, arrogantly and patronisingly to posts that don't butter your bread to the centimetre. In this instance it's in reply to quite innocent replies pointing out that the OP doesn't make a lot of sense, and is a post that I'd guess had nearly all genuine Unitedites confused, with it being a song that has been sung for many a year afterwards. I needn't say much more because you'll reply in a way that demonstrates the aforementioned 3 characteristics, my point will be illustrated perfectly and you yourself will see what I mean. And I mean all that in the nicest way possible, I think it's better it's pointed out so petty discussions like this don't happen as often in the future.
 
This should, once and for all, dispel all thoughts of there being a unified set of views.......but, it doesn't alter your fundamental view that we should sometimes make more of an effort to get on UTB

Worthy sentiment but I'm always reminded of Terry from the 'Llkely Lads' explaining his thought process:

"Bob: I bet we could go right round the world and you'd have a pat response ready.
Terry Collier: I've travelled man, I've seen a bit of the world now you know.
Bob: What do you think of Koreans, for instance?
Terry Collier: Not to be trusted. Cruel people. Much the same as all Orientals.
Bob: That's a third of the world's population dismissed in a phrase. Russians?
Terry Collier: Sinister.
Bob: Egyptians?
Terry Collier: Cowardly.
Bob: Oh? I thought you might have saved that for Italians.
Terry Collier: No, no, they're greasy aren't they? Not as greasy as the French mind.
Bob: Germans?
Terry Collier: Arrogant.
Bob: Spaniards?
Terry Collier: Lazy.
Bob: Danes?
Terry Collier: Pornographic.
Bob: Well that's just about everyone. Oh, Americans?
Terry Collier: Well, they're flash aren't they?
Bob: So it's just down to the British, is it?
Terry Collier: Well, I haven't got much time for the Irish or the Welsh, and the Scots are worse than the Koreans.
Bob: And you never could stand Southerners.
Terry Collier: To tell you the truth I don't like anybody much outside this town. And there's a lot of families in our street I can't stand either. Come to think of it, I don't even like the people next door."

I like to think of him as my role model and life skills coach.
 
It never left IIYB, it's a Kop favourite. Certainly one of mine.

Well at least it was when the Kop had a bit of swagger and character, before becoming a haven for shitheads who exclusively now sing about "Shagging your women and drinking your beer" despite most likely never having experienced either. Or whatever generic shite they discovered on Twitter that week.

I've been singing 'Drink your women and shag your beer', whoops!
 
IIYB, you have a tendency to reply viciously, arrogantly and patronisingly to posts that don't butter your bread to the centimetre. In this instance it's in reply to quite innocent replies pointing out that the OP doesn't make a lot of sense, and is a post that I'd guess had nearly all genuine Unitedites confused, with it being a song that has been sung for many a year afterwards. I needn't say much more because you'll reply in a way that demonstrates the aforementioned 3 characteristics, my point will be illustrated perfectly and you yourself will see what I mean. And I mean all that in the nicest way possible, I think it's better it's pointed out so petty discussions like this don't happen as often in the future.

Or.....to put a more accurate description to your post, I've replied to some of the nonsense you've posted, therefore you take this opportunity to poke your nose in (sorry Barn, you might be hurt by that description) and attempt to be the voice of reason :confused:.......if only that were the case. By all means post away fella, it's what the forum's for. Trouble is, attempting to create a perception that is unerringly incorrect isn't helpful. I think you have it within you to contribute in a way that isn't provocative, all you have to do is take a step back, reflect a bit harder, and you might recognise that you cause other posters to comment harshly on some of the nonsense that seems to gush from your fingertips.

Hope that wasn't too vicious Barn, all the best.
 
Worthy sentiment but I'm always reminded of Terry from the 'Llkely Lads' explaining his thought process:

"Bob: I bet we could go right round the world and you'd have a pat response ready.
Terry Collier: I've travelled man, I've seen a bit of the world now you know.
Bob: What do you think of Koreans, for instance?
Terry Collier: Not to be trusted. Cruel people. Much the same as all Orientals.
Bob: That's a third of the world's population dismissed in a phrase. Russians?
Terry Collier: Sinister.
Bob: Egyptians?
Terry Collier: Cowardly.
Bob: Oh? I thought you might have saved that for Italians.
Terry Collier: No, no, they're greasy aren't they? Not as greasy as the French mind.
Bob: Germans?
Terry Collier: Arrogant.
Bob: Spaniards?
Terry Collier: Lazy.
Bob: Danes?
Terry Collier: Pornographic.
Bob: Well that's just about everyone. Oh, Americans?
Terry Collier: Well, they're flash aren't they?
Bob: So it's just down to the British, is it?
Terry Collier: Well, I haven't got much time for the Irish or the Welsh, and the Scots are worse than the Koreans.
Bob: And you never could stand Southerners.
Terry Collier: To tell you the truth I don't like anybody much outside this town. And there's a lot of families in our street I can't stand either. Come to think of it, I don't even like the people next door."

I like to think of him as my role model and life skills coach.

If that script description is correct, am I led to understand that you have little time for anything outside of your own experience and a specific, and possibly limited, set of conclusions you've discovered? Surely not, or have I misunderstood?
 
If that script description is correct, am I led to understand that you have little time for anything outside of your own experience and a specific, and possibly limited, set of conclusions you've discovered? Surely not, or have I misunderstood?

Yes that's about it, although I'm perhaps a little more narrow minded than you suggest above.
 
All this and we all support the same team, imagine how we'd get on if we were from different tribes.
 

A bit of research by Professor Google tells me this is plagiarised from a Loyalist song called No Pope of Rome. I’d never heard of this and I don’t know if that is copied from something else.

No, no Pope of Rome
No chapels to sadden my eyes
No nuns and no priests
No Rosary beads
Every day is the 12th of July

Our version consists of:

No members of our enemy in town
Imagining our enemy’s establishment no longer exists
Their figurehead no longer exists
More piss taking
A date that means something to us

QED

The genius of football supporters’ lyricism and yet it is a thousand times better than the dirges turned out in recent times.
 
My top 4 illogical or inaccurate elements of SUFC songs, in no particular order:

1. "We've got Woodward and Currie". If only.
2. "He's a Blade and he's a Blade". Would only make sense if talking about two separate people.
3. "We are the Shoreham boys". When sung from the New South Stand.
4. "We're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen". Obviously, I do agree that we are the greatest team that the world seen. However, I think that it's unfair on the 1970 Brazil, 1990 AC Milan and 2010 Barcelona sides to say that we're by far better than them. At a push, in an injury crisis, we might be able to accommodate one of Pele, van Basten or Messi on the bench.

...and I don't know who in their right mind enjoys Woodbines. Or snuff.
 
My top 4 illogical or inaccurate elements of SUFC songs, in no particular order:

1. "We've got Woodward and Currie". If only.
2. "He's a Blade and he's a Blade". Would only make sense if talking about two separate people.
3. "We are the Shoreham boys". When sung from the New South Stand.
4. "We're by far the greatest team the world has ever seen". Obviously, I do agree that we are the greatest team that the world seen. However, I think that it's unfair on the 1970 Brazil, 1990 AC Milan and 2010 Barcelona sides to say that we're by far better than them. At a push, in an injury crisis, we might be able to accommodate one of Pele, van Basten or Messi on the bench.

...and I don't know who in their right mind enjoys Woodbines. Or snuff.

See also:

"Sheffield ... United ...
Will never be defeated."

I beg to fucking differ.

"No pigfans in town ... "

Last time I was up there, The Moor, Pinstone Street and Fargate was awash with fat little retards sporting blue and white shirts.

" ... so I kicked him in the bollocks
and I kicked him in the head
Now that Wednesdayite
Is dead."

It's a fanciful construct to imagine one blow in the testicles and a chance kick to the head might end someone's life, but come on ... is this really the way to behave?

pommpey
 
See also:

"Sheffield ... United ...
Will never be defeated."

I beg to fucking differ.

"No pigfans in town ... "

Last time I was up there, The Moor, Pinstone Street and Fargate was awash with fat little retards sporting blue and white shirts.

" ... so I kicked him in the bollocks
and I kicked him in the head
Now that Wednesdayite
Is dead."

It's a fanciful construct to imagine one blow in the testicles and a chance kick to the head might end someone's life, but come on ... is this really the way to behave?

pommpey
Why do you assume it's only one kick to the bollocks and one to the head. It could be plural. Multiple blows to the skull and the Goblin's coin purse could cause expiration.
 

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