Bolton Facing Admin

[TJB.]

My thoughts are that it's not about the Blades and this is in the wrong forum.

#NeeNaw

Very much Blades-concerned if they're deducted 10 points!

#FuckTheForumPolice

 

[HighfieldBlade]

there's a 10 point deduction for admin , is there not
to say it in boltonese

Yes, thuur is.

 

[IOM Blade]

Isn't it more than 10 for a 24 team league? Think I remember teams being docked 12 in the past.

 

[DronnieBlade]

While understanding that running a club ain't no doddle, this is a story of Mis management of epic proportions.

Puts McCabe in to perspective !!

UTB

 

[Houso]

Urgh, Bolton news in a Blades section.

I'm triggering hard here. Someone find me a safe space.

 

[blade too long]

Isn't it more than 10 for a 24 team league? Think I remember teams being docked 12 in the past.

no the other way only 8 for a prem club
or just a fine if its west ham so as not to upset their fans

 

[JordoBlade]

They'll end up Champs this season then be deducted 10 points next season. Scunny will finish 2nd and we'll fail in the play offs despite gaining 92 points. Blades way..............

 

[JJ Sefton]

They'll end up Champs this season then be deducted 10 points next season. Scunny will finish 2nd and we'll fail in the play offs despite gaining 92 points. Blades way..............

Indeed, the Footballing Gods have been roused from their slumber by the sound of Blades discussing promotion in November and are now moving their pieces into position in preparation for check mate.

 

[Bartyblade]

They'll end up Champs this season then be deducted 10 points next season. Scunny will finish 2nd and we'll fail in the play offs despite gaining 92 points. Blades way..............

Deduction only applies next season if admin happens toward end of season, the rule was brought in when Leeds were going to be docked points but doomed anyway.
Will be interesting to see what FA does if Bolton were to be promoted UNLESS points docked if an end of season plunge into admin.

 

[Ricky]

Don't want to see clubs going into admin but it's about time something like this helped us.

Even if they avoid admin they'll still be walking a bit of a tightrope financially, so selling Clough (and not spending much at all to replace him) would seem very likely in January. Hopefully that's what happens.

 

[Bartyblade]

Don't want to see clubs going into admin but it's about time something like this helped us.

Even if they avoid admin they'll still be walking a bit of a tightrope financially, so selling Clough (and not spending much at all to replace him) would seem very likely in January. Hopefully that's what happens.

Wonder if Wilder could use him?

 

[northsomersetblade]

It's in the middle of nowhere with no decent pubs, food or transport links. Leicester and Soton are much more central and better grounds for it.

And it's always fecking freezing

 

[Bladesway]

My thoughts are that it's not about the Blades and this is in the wrong forum.

#NeeNaw

Yeah but there isn't another part of the forum where you can talk about other clubs is there Pedant. Otherwise who would be so daft as to........oh.

 

[Booker4]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/spor...nistration_next_month_without_boardroom_deal/

Unless something is sorted sharpish, it's not looking good for BWFC. The ever-worrying term 'deal in principle' is in there somewhere.

This can either create a siege mentality and strong togetherness amongst the players, or they'll jump ship, get sold or just go to shit.

I feel for clubs when this kind of thing happens, but I'm sick to death of being in this division and if a club getting dragged through the mud gifts us even the slightest advantage in the table, then so be it.

Plus I hate that shitty ground.

Thoughts on this?

It might mean they have to sell Clough hopefully! Think he's out of contract come the end of the season anyway? I read the article and answered the question on the article which asked "Are you worried about Bolton wanderers financial situation"? I answered no and 20% agreed with me! I'm worried we'll lose EEL back to Wolves but that's about it!

 

[Houston_Blade]

Why is their stadium so disliked? From a visual standpoint I much prefer it to the featureless bowls of Leicester, Soton and the like.

It's miles from anywhere, freezing whether you go in December or August, takes ages for the train to turn up after the game and it's named after whoever decides to put their name on their shitty kit.

 

[blade too long]

They'll end up Champs this season then be deducted 10 points next season. Scunny will finish 2nd and we'll fail in the play offs despite gaining 92 points. Blades way..............

they dont get to choose , as soon as admin is declared they get docked 10 points

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Totally relevant topic for discussion on here.
They'll smarm out of it one way or another,but along the way hopefully they'll be deducted points. And sell anyone who's any good. If they had a market nearby that sold the best black dag in the world like Bury I'd give a fuck.
They don't. And neither do I.

 

[WhiteHawk]

Totally relevant topic for discussion on here.
They'll smarm out of it one way or another,but along the way hopefully they'll be deducted points. And sell anyone who's any good. If they had a market nearby that sold the best black dag in the world like Bury I'd give a fuck.
They don't. And neither do I.

Have you had the chilli black dag from Bury market! It's fantastic!

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Have you had the chilli black dag from Bury market! It's fantastic!

I haven't mate. And I hate the fact you have!

 

[blade too long]

I wasn't being very specific. Seen the plans for commercial space and the like built into it. However, from a matchday/football fans' point of view, it will pretty much be a few extra rows at the back, a cantilever roof and some new bogs. Correct?

the rear view of the proiposed new stand shows a large glazed rear with lots of stuff going on underneath

 

[Treeton Blade]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/spor...nistration_next_month_without_boardroom_deal/

Unless something is sorted sharpish, it's not looking good for BWFC. The ever-worrying term 'deal in principle' is in there somewhere.

This can either create a siege mentality and strong togetherness amongst the players, or they'll jump ship, get sold or just go to shit.

I feel for clubs when this kind of thing happens, but I'm sick to death of being in this division and if a club getting dragged through the mud gifts us even the slightest advantage in the table, then so be it.

Plus I hate that shitty ground.

Thoughts on this?

They should raise the ticket prices for away fans.

Never going to make any cash only charging £30

 

[WhiteHawk]

I haven't mate. And I hate the fact you have!

Not had it for years mind, and not impressed we play them bank holiday Monday as I'm guessing the market will be closed.

 

[seanbeenstattoo]

Still got the same shit exposed walkway from the shitty piss overflowing bogs mind.

Not had it for years mind, and not impressed we play them bank holiday Monday as I'm guessing the market will be closed.

Don't be so sure. There's nothing else goes on in Bury on a Bank Holiday Monday.
Or any other day in the calendar year!

 

[bladesmanluke]

Why is their stadium so disliked? From a visual standpoint I much prefer it to the featureless bowls of Leicester, Soton and the like.

The fact that it no longer seems too bad only shows how shite the even newer builds are. The Reebok (if it's still called that) is poor. The rest are diabolical

 

[Isar]

Burnden Park probably had it's fair share of rust but is widely considered to be better than its modern counterpart by those who have visited both. Older grounds have character which the vast majority of new-build grounds fail to capture, and are usually a bit better located. The Hillsborough comparison is a tricky one because we're always going to slate it because of what it is, and also because it has an unfathomably ugly away end even if you take the red specs off.

Regarding the Kop, I'd love to see us start from scratch with it too, but it'd simply be too expensive. They'll just plonk a new cantilever roof and some new bogs in and call it a day.

Remember Burnden Park very well, the twats throwing bricks into the ground from the car park onto the away fans, the pitch sloping into the away end corner flag area, it was always one of those away days where fighting always broke out. That said it is still better than the soulless ground they now use.

 

[penthouseblade]

the rear view of the proiposed new stand shows a large glazed rear with lots of stuff going on underneath

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I believe that space you refer to is only under the new extension and the space that is already there now?

What that proposed development does not do is demolish the whole stand and start again. That really really really needs to happen but I very much doubt it will!

 

[blade too long]

I believe that space you refer to is only under the new extension and the space that is already there now?

What that proposed development does not do is demolish the whole stand and start again. That really really really needs to happen but I very much doubt it will!

it is the plan to remove it . completely to give a vast interior to arn more dosh
its the common sense thing to do

 

[Selly]

Deduction only applies next season if admin happens toward end of season, the rule was brought in when Leeds were going to be docked points but doomed anyway.
Will be interesting to see what FA does if Bolton were to be promoted UNLESS points docked if an end of season plunge into admin.

Why would the FA do anything?

The rules are clear cut, unlike when Leeds went into admin at half time during the last game of the season, or whatever it was.

Go into admin after the fourth Thursday in March (I think) and the deduction can be suspended until the following season if the club would have been relegated anyway.

12.3 Sporting Sanctions

Introduction

The following Regulation provides for how sporting sanctions will be applied to Clubs when the Club, or any Group Undertaking, becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, and also makes provision for an appeals mechanism, but only on the grounds of ‘Force Majeure’.

By way of clarification the following are identified as circumstances which it is intended would be embraced under the category of ‘Force Majeure’. It is intended that this appeals process should be limited to circumstances which are deemed unforeseeable and unavoidable. In all these examples, each case would have to be considered on its own merits:

Club Income: In the event that a club suffers material adverse effects upon the loss of anticipated income streams which mean that it is unable to meet its liabilities as and when they fall due. This could only be grounds for appeal, however, if the loss occurs during the currency of a binding agreement (i.e. not upon expiry).

Default by another Club: In circumstances where an insolvency event is caused by the default of another football club. Once again, however, for this to constitute legitimate grounds for appeal, the outstanding payments must be significant enough to have had a material and adverse effect upon the Club.

12.3.1 If any Club becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, that Club shall be deducted 12 points.

12.3.2 If a Group Undertaking of a Club becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, then the Board shall have the power to impose upon the Club a deduction of 12 points scored or to be scored in the League Competition. In exercising this power the Board shall have regard to all the circumstances of the case and to:

(a) such of the provisions of the Insolvency Act, the Competition Act 1998 and the Enterprise Act 2002 as are relevant and then in force;

(b) the need to protect the integrity and continuity of the League Competition;

(c) the reputation of The League and the need to promote the game of association football generally; and

(d) the relationship between the Club and the Group Undertaking.

12.3.3 Subject to the provisions of Regulation 12.3.4 below, where the Club becomes subject to or suffers an Insolvency Event, or the Board impose a deduction in accordance with Regulation 12.3.2:

(a) during the Normal Playing Season but prior to 5.00pm on the fourth Thursday in March, the points deduction shall apply immediately;

(b) during the Normal Playing Season but after 5.00pm on the fourth Thursday in March, Regulation 12.3.4 shall apply; and

(c) outside the Normal Playing Season, the points deduction shall apply in respect of the following Season such that the Club starts that Season on minus 12 points (including in the National League if appropriate).

12.3.4 Where the circumstances set out in Regulation 12.3.3(b) apply and at the end of that Season, having regard to the number of championship points awarded (ignoring any potential deduction):

(a) the Club would be relegated in accordance with Regulation 10.1.2(b) or 7.3, the points deduction will apply in the next following Season (including in the National League if appropriate); or

(b) the Club would not be relegated as aforesaid, the points deduction will apply in that Season and Regulation 10.1.2(b) or 7.3 will then apply (if appropriate) following imposition of the points deduction.

12.3.5 For the avoidance of doubt, where a Club and/or Group Undertaking is subject to more than one of the procedures in Regulation 12.3.1 above during a process of compromising creditors (for example Administration followed by a Company Voluntary Arrangement), the Club shall only be deducted one set of 12 points, such deduction to apply with effect from the first Insolvency Event.
Read more at http://www.efl.com/global/section3.aspx#o0WzQgjGS7lVHSTR.99

 

[sitwell]

Remember Burnden Park very well, the twats throwing bricks into the ground from the car park onto the away fans, the pitch sloping into the away end corner flag area, it was always one of those away days where fighting always broke out. That said it is still better than the soulless ground they now use.

Went on the side to the right one as the away end was rammed ,it kicked off massively ,fire extinguishers got involved but it was mainly on the concourse ,somehow word got to the Utd end and quite a few came across and all hell let loose. Combined with the 'dancing' in Farnsworth before the game it was an eventful day. Burnden Park and Stoke ,you were always guaranteed trouble.
Regarding their situation ,an arsehole will come along shortly and buy the club mark my words.

 

[penthouseblade]

it is the plan to remove it . completely to give a vast interior to arn more dosh
its the common sense thing to do

I hope you are correct but when I've looked at the views from inside the ground, the rake on the Kop is still low and the new extension at the proper angle; why would that be?