Scougall

[CarlMcBlade]

Back up. . .That's all. CW would struggle to keep better players happy if he sat them on the bench.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Completely 100% agree with you on EEL. He looked decidedly ungainly with the ball at his feet but like you, realise he's not there to be Franz Beckenbauer.
I mostly agree with you Scougall, although I felt he was better than Lafferty, who looked well short of match fitness (again, no criticism, I wouldn't expect him to come straight in and be a world beater).

ARE both Clarke and Lavery sidelined?

Clarke had his foot in a cast last Saturday. Lavery had a protective boot on after coming off on Monday. Not heard any confirmation as to whether either will be fit for the weekend but it doesn’t look great.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I thought Wright and O'Connell had the better all round performances at the weekend. O'Connell in particular didn't put a foot wrong even when he had to switch positions

Re Clarke- I'm sure CW said he would be fit for the weekend

I think O Connell is the best on the ball out of the three. Wright seems to be the organizer whereas EEL just seems to get in the way of everything putting his body on the line.

 

[Darthblade]

Anyone else remember the Littlejohn song? A classic if not entirely politically correct!...

Ah yes ....... I remember it well !!!

And I have no problem with "political incorrectness" personally

UTB & FTP

 

[AlienBlade]

Who's our top scorer?

Sharp is ... but 4 in 10 games from a player who is supposed to be above this league...and one a penalty! Done Played 4 games up front scored 2 goals... had he been up front as many games as would it be Sharp...

Interesting that you don’t actually dispute the points I made… so I might assume you agree… I wonder if given another 10 games of Done Starting up front, you can wheel out the same question…

 

[bartman]

Sharp is ... but 4 in 10 games from a player who is supposed to be above this league...and one a penalty! Done Played 4 games up front scored 2 goals... had he been up front as many games as would it be Sharp...

Interesting that you don’t actually dispute the points I made… so I might assume you agree… I wonder if given another 10 games of Done Starting up front, you can wheel out the same question…

Penalties don't count then ? We'd better remove them from the scoring records of Beattie,Morris etc then.

Personally I won't give a monkeys how many games they play up front and who scores the most if they score the goals to get us promoted. They are two entirely different types of player who are currently playing very well together. They should be starting every week at the moment and if one of them has to drop out LC and CL will have to earn their place to keep them out

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Sharp is ... but 4 in 10 games from a player who is supposed to be above this league...and one a penalty! Done Played 4 games up front scored 2 goals... had he been up front as many games as would it be Sharp...

Interesting that you don’t actually dispute the points I made… so I might assume you agree… I wonder if given another 10 games of Done Starting up front, you can wheel out the same question…

Sharp has played 8 league games, scored 4 goals - a 1 in 2 ratio - the holy grail of top strikers.

If you think Sharp has woeful control I would suggest you actually watch him, you'll then see that his control and hold up play are excellent.

The fact that Sharp scorers goals regularly means he isn't as wasteful as many others, including Scougall.

Scougall and Sharp are lightyears apart.

Are you also one of the fans who slated Beattie because all he did was score goals?

 

[Silent Blade]

Penalties don't count then ? We'd better remove them from the scoring records of Beattie,Morris etc then.

Yes

 

[Bergen Blade]

Sharp has played 8 league games, scored 4 goals - a 1 in 2 ratio - the holy grail of top strikers.

If you think Sharp has woeful control I would suggest you actually watch him, you'll then see that his control and hold up play are excellent.

The fact that Sharp scorers goals regularly means he isn't as wasteful as many others, including Scougall.

Scougall and Sharp are lightyears apart.

Are you also one of the fans who slated Beattie because all he did was score goals?

Despite Beattie's goals, we were only the 14th highest scorers in 2007/08 and 7th highest scorers in 2008/09 (6th highest when Beattie left). For a team that had maybe the biggest budget this wasn't impressive. I think it shows that having a 20 goal a season man doesn't automatically give a successful team that scores enough goals. We should have been able to put together a team and squad that gave us more goals and more points.

 

[Darthblade]

Sharp has played 8 league games, scored 4 goals - a 1 in 2 ratio - the holy grail of top strikers.

If you think Sharp has woeful control I would suggest you actually watch him, you'll then see that his control and hold up play are excellent.

The fact that Sharp scorers goals regularly means he isn't as wasteful as many others, including Scougall.

Scougall and Sharp are lightyears apart.

Are you also one of the fans who slated Beattie because all he did was score goals?

All Keith Edwards did was score goals ......... fucking loads of the fuckers and I loved EVERY one of them !!!!!

UTB & FTP

 

[Bergen Blade]

Nearly 8 pages and still no Scougall Vs Peterborough video highlights package from Bergen. Very disappointing.

With over 70 posts on the subject now is the time for Bergen Blade to enter the debate with highlights of the work Scougall does off the ball that goes unnoticed. (Sorry about using that last part - should be in the cliches I despise!)

Individually I thought Scougall did some things well, but there were a few disappointing involvements as well. Overall though, putting him on worked well for us. Wilder saw that we were starting to lose the midfield, changed the formation and put Scougall on and we were able to close them down better. Offensively he gave us a bit of energy as well.

No video from me this week, but the highlights, starting at 1:13, shows a little bit of Scougs in action:



First he gets involved in us winning possession high up the pitch, leading to Duffy's shot. Then he shows forward movement, drifting infield from his wide position and having a shot himself.

I don't think we have to discuss if he's "good enough to be in a promotion winning team". At the moment we are winning, and unless we have injuries or Wilder decides to change the formation, Scougall will most likely be found on the bench on Saturday again. We need squad members to come in and offer us something, tweak our tactics, help us change the pattern of games, and Scougall is one of the players who are doing just that at the moment.

Some people have suggested he should only be considered an option from the bench, but let's remember that he started in his best game for us, against Oxford, when he won MoM, both officially and on the rating system on here. Most players who are considered "impact players" or "super subs" would actually like to be starting games, and I'm sure that goes for Scougall as well. It can be difficult to get into the games and Scougs would no doubt say that we'd get more from him if he got a run in a well-balanced team. We'll have to wait and see if or when that happens.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Yes I do agree. We saw the two sides of him on Sat - the good stuff i.e. getting into good positions, willingness to carry the ball, likes to get forward. But we saw what he cant do - hold off a challenge - and perhaps the most crucial - poor first touch, which you cant really learn. That's why he is a League One player.

He does have a part to play though - and can make a difference when he comes on.

I think he's actually got good technique and first touch, but the way he plays with non-stop running sprinting means his touch and concentration suffers.

In biathlon they try to combine hard work with something requiring concentration and composure, maybe Scougs could try it:

 

[Lane Ender]

I think he's actually got good technique and first touch, but the way he plays with non-stop running sprinting means his touch and concentration suffers.

In biathlon they try to combine hard work with something requiring concentration and composure, maybe Scougs could try it:

To sum sum it up all he brings to the team is energy.
No skills no technique he has no final ball because he isn't in control of his movements.

 

[coaxingstar71]

Which player won our vital equalising penalty today?........ Ah smug mode!

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Which player won our vital equalising penalty today?........ Ah smug mode!

you have a point - but if it had been Basham, the scunny defender would have kicked Bashams Knee

UTB

 

[Tyler Durden]

Which player won our vital equalising penalty today?........ Ah smug mode!

Forget it.

If Scougall scores a hat-trick in every single game until May, the spiteful cunt brigade will still find fault.

 

[coaxingstar71]

you have a point - but if it had been Basham, the scunny defender would have kicked Bashams Knee

UTB

Joking aside, it was actually his bravery in going for the ball that won us that penalty.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Joking aside, it was actually his bravery in going for the ball that won us that penalty.

agreed it was and for some to say it wasn't a penalty is a bit of a joke really. 30 years back it wasn't a penalty - today it is, and that's the difference - and that is also the reason Bash got sent off.

What I really fail to understand is why some of todays fans don't base opinions on today's rules. I can understand totally why they don't like the rules, but that's not the point - they ARE the rules.

The scuuny defenders foot was at head height = foul in box = penalty. Bash missed the ball, all studs showing, feet/body off ground = foul = red card.

UTB

 

[Bladeloyal]

agreed it was and for some to say it wasn't a penalty is a bit of a joke really. 30 years back it wasn't a penalty - today it is, and that's the difference - and that is also the reason Bash got sent off.

What I really fail to understand is why some of todays fans don't base opinions on today's rules. I can understand totally why they don't like the rules, but that's not the point - they ARE the rules.

The scuuny defenders foot was at head height = foul in box = penalty. Bash missed the ball, all studs showing, feet/body off ground = foul = red card.

UTB

The rules haven't changed its the directives and interpretation of the said rules

 

[Fulwood Blade]

The rules haven't changed its the directives and interpretation of the said rules

that's' fine - don't mind as long as we get consistency. Think Deadman has been a twat in the past but he got both key decisions spot on for me.

UTB

 

[coaxingstar71]

agreed it was and for some to say it wasn't a penalty is a bit of a joke really. 30 years back it wasn't a penalty - today it is, and that's the difference - and that is also the reason Bash got sent off.

What I really fail to understand is why some of todays fans don't base opinions on today's rules. I can understand totally why they don't like the rules, but that's not the point - they ARE the rules.

The scuuny defenders foot was at head height = foul in box = penalty. Bash missed the ball, all studs showing, feet/body off ground = foul = red card.

UTB

I agree with you, although I must be biased because I don't think Bash's challenge was a sending off. It looked to me to be 50/50 and his foot looked to me to be on the ground at the point of contact. Nevertheless I definitely agree that high studs showing challenges should be a straight red. It's the consistency that's lacking.

I think those that think that wasn't a penalty would rather think that Scougs 'fell over'.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Categorically NGE.

Not even close.

UTB

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

He deserved an assist in the first half

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Categorically NGE.

Not even close.

UTB

Bit harsh - Was ill today apparently.

Decent squad player imo

 

[Tyler Durden]

The spiteful witchunt continues....

 

[DronnieBlade]

Bit harsh - Was ill today apparently.

Decent squad player imo

Not based on just tonight.

When the game passes you by, that's one thing.

When your own teammates pass you by and overlook you, that speaks volumes.

Simply not equipped to play pro football. Sorry Steven !

UTB

 

[Ricky]

Not good tonight, very poor first touch.

Please forgive me for saying that Tyler.

 

[Caseh]

I don't understand the criticism he gets, but in this league you won't find a better squad player than the likes of Scougall who had ridiculous amounts of energy. Not someone I'd want in the Championship, but considering we aren't up there.. He fills his role in the squad absolutely fine.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Not good tonight, very poor first touch.

Please forgive me for saying that Tyler.

It's ok, you've got good pedigree to fall back on.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Scougall has played well this season and has earned his place, was tidy tonight and deserved an assist.
Was better than Duffy tonight surprised he came off.