Updates from Wilder

[ChipButtyBlade]

Yep, Lions and Tigers too, save me a bullet for Walter Palmer or any fucker that shoots them.

If there is one fucker on this planet i hate its Walter the Dentist,a bullet for him would be too quick,i would really like him strapped in his own dentist chair where i would extract all his teeth one by one.

 

[Blade56]

If there is one fucker on this planet i hate its Walter the Dentist,a bullet for him would be too quick,i would really like him strapped in his own dentist chair where i would extract all his teeth one by one.

You'd work on his teeth?

 

[The Crab]

r

If there is one fucker on this planet i hate its Walter the Dentist,a bullet for him would be too quick,i would really like him strapped in his own dentist chair where i would extract all his teeth one by one.

While your doing that I'll work on the bottoms of his feet with a hammer (I've read far too much Chris Ryan than is good for me).

 

[Nasik Blade]

So don't question my response in your reply if you didn't bother to read it in the first place.

I actually read yours. I know it was your opinion and that was mine.

And it isn't tit-for-tat/shit slinging etc etc

I honestly want to know how you feel the fans are a big part in our failed performances and how you can say that a large number enjoy seeing the club fail?

Bet you start arguments in a room with errr yourself quite regularly.

The fans are a big part in failed performances when Long claims a cross in the first 5 mins against Southend and gets an ironic cheer from muppets on the Kop. Then surprise surprise fooks up 5 mins later and a load of morons take 2 seconds to lay into him. I could list 5several players from recent yrs who have had this treatment. Tell me how that helps them? especially a keeper.

Got to ask, in all honesty mate, do you really believe that there are "quite a few people" who "lust love to watch them fail" ?

From evidence of the Southend game 10 days ago there was a decent amount on the Kop who couldn't wait for Long to fook up. Personally I'm not a big fan of Long either but what value is there of giving him loads of grief?

I just think we've become so impatient, I get why it's 6 yrs of this shite, and people have spent ALOT of money and time but I think we have a responsibility to not be gloom merchants after 4 games. If it were January and we were in this position then fair enough but its not even the end of the first month of the season. I just get sick of people ready to jump on the team and managers case.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

How much did L**ds pay for Roofe? £3 million? and he was in the league below and only scored 7 or so more goals than Che.

I think £4mil for Che is a much more realistic price with the way transfers prices are these days. Che then scores on his debut in the league above, I think when we are scrapping around in League 2 we may look back and think we undersold Che.

If they didn't want to pay the right asking price then yes Che would still be here and we may be doing a bit better in front of goal.

What struck me B, was that phrase "we enquired about one and were told he's not for sale at any price, so that was it" (or something similar)
So are we saying we just walked away at that?
I didn't see Birmingham giving up that easily.
Unless of course, our policy is that everyone is for sale at the right (or somewhere near it) price?

 

[him behind you]

Bet you start arguments in a room with errr yourself quite regularly.

The fans are a big part in failed performances when Long claims a cross in the first 5 mins against Southend and gets an ironic cheer from muppets on the Kop. Then surprise surprise fooks up 5 mins later and a load of morons take 2 seconds to lay into him. I could list 5several players from recent yrs who have had this treatment. Tell me how that helps them? especially a keeper.



From evidence of the Southend game 10 days ago there was a decent amount on the Kop who couldn't wait for Long to fook up. Personally I'm not a big fan of Long either but what value is there of giving him loads of grief?

I just think we've become so impatient, I get why it's 6 yrs of this shite, and people have spent ALOT of money and time but I think we have a responsibility to not be gloom merchants after 4 games. If it were January and we were in this position then fair enough but its not even the end of the first month of the season. I just get sick of people ready to jump on the team and managers case.

But IMO, and without having a direct pop at him, the manager is the main cause of the lack of patience. He came in and made promises about a style of play. He had a full summer and has brought in a number of players who you would expect were brought in with that style of play in mind (admittedly some may not have been his first choice but he brought them in regardless). If we were seeing this style of play but were still losing, I think people would be more inclined to be patient because it would be work in progress, but what we're actually seeing is performances which couldn't be further away from what's been promised and which are actually even worse that what we've been served over the last few years.

 

[Lawrence]

Millwall "not for sale at any price" when have we ever said that!?

 

[Harry's Game]

Bet you start arguments in a room with errr yourself quite regularly.

The fans are a big part in failed performances when Long claims a cross in the first 5 mins against Southend and gets an ironic cheer from muppets on the Kop. Then surprise surprise fooks up 5 mins later and a load of morons take 2 seconds to lay into him. I could list 5several players from recent yrs who have had this treatment. Tell me how that helps them? especially a keeper.



From evidence of the Southend game 10 days ago there was a decent amount on the Kop who couldn't wait for Long to fook up. Personally I'm not a big fan of Long either but what value is there of giving him loads of grief?

I just think we've become so impatient, I get why it's 6 yrs of this shite, and people have spent ALOT of money and time but I think we have a responsibility to not be gloom merchants after 4 games. If it were January and we were in this position then fair enough but its not even the end of the first month of the season. I just get sick of people ready to jump on the team and managers case.

It's not so much the league position or results that have people worried just yet, it's the utterly clueless and abysmal performances we have put in to date.

Under Heath, Adams and Weir when we were as shit as I can remember you could at least see what the method and plan was even if it clearly wasn't working.

Fom the games seen this this season I can't see a method or plan and we look all at sea. Unless addressed pretty quickly,starting against Oxford, we are in serious trouble this season.

 

[Clarkey87]

Bet you start arguments in a room with errr yourself quite regularly.

In all honesty, I'm sure if I did, it probably would be still more articulate and reasoned than having one with you.
It isn't/never has been an arguement. It was someone simply challenging your opinion that you started off as being "fact".

The fans are a big part in failed performances when Long claims a cross in the first 5 mins against Southend and gets an ironic cheer from muppets on the Kop. Then surprise surprise fooks up 5 mins later and a load of morons take 2 seconds to lay into him. I could list 5several players from recent yrs who have had this treatment. Tell me how that helps them? especially a keeper.

You say big part as if to emphasise that in a big way the fans are to blame for our current situation.
Yes - I accept that you do get idiots in the crowd (primarily on the Kop) that boo in a match etc (read back to several of my posts already on this thread where I have already discussed this and I won't go over old ground)

I take issue with your words that stated:

fact that quite a few people just love to watch them fail and just ready to get on their cases

That point indicates to me you don't believe it is a minority of fans, and even then I disagree with the wording about people 'loving' to watch them fail. A ridiculous notion because otherwise they wouldn't be supporters/fans in the first place.

I think I may be able to offer some assistance with what I think you should have been saying in the first place - "a small minority of fans, at the minute, seem ready to vent their frustration and/or anger, very quickly into a game, which in turn seems amplified as the rest of the crowd are currently in a subdued state due to the current situation at the club"

I reiterate that there is no way "quite a few" fans are enjoying seeing the team fail and as I've pointed out. Not one blade I talk to who goes to the games takes this viewpoint.
Maybe it's just who you come into contact with/surrounds you? I don't know what gives you this idea?

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And I still haven't had a response to me asking you what positives you take from our three home games so far this season? (I mean if you didn't go, then by all means say and I will stop pressing the issue, but if you did, I am interested to know your opinion on the team performances etc and what you can highlight that has been good from those matches)

 

[Lawrence]

Oh look. The same shit from yet another manager. Some day our fans will realise the Manager is the fall guy, not the actual problem. Wilder has been tactically naive, but he isn't the one that caused us to have the weakest squad I have seen in my life.

Neither was Adkins, Clough, Weir, Wilson, Adams etc.

Why isn't he the one that's caused us to have the weakest squad you have seen in your life, didn't CW say that the board had supported him, so he could bring in HIS chosen players, who it turns out are the weakest you have seen.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Interesting his bigging up of Leon Clarke ("he's not here to be a players' favourite...", etc) & the "nobody's untouchable, nobody's undroppable" comment.

 

[Caseh]

Why isn't he the one that's caused us to have the weakest squad you have seen in your life, didn't CW say that the board had supported him, so he could bring in HIS chosen players, who it turns out are the weakest you have seen.

Because once again, our board haven't got the main targets. We do the same every time. They are his third/fourth/fifth choices in some situations. That post was by no means a defense of CW, I think he has got plenty wrong also in this short time so far - But the problems have been the same from before CW was here. His tactical naivety just seem to be exasperating the issues at present.

 

[Nasik Blade]

But IMO, and without having a direct pop at him, the manager is the main cause of the lack of patience. He came in and made promises about a style of play. He had a full summer and has brought in a number of players who you would expect were brought in with that style of play in mind (admittedly some may not have been his first choice but he brought them in regardless). If we were seeing this style of play but were still losing, I think people would be more inclined to be patient because it would be work in progress, but what we're actually seeing is performances which couldn't be further away from what's been promised and which are actually even worse that what we've been served over the last few years.

That is a totally fair point and I have no problem with that I just think it's so early in the season and its as if people have forgotten how many new players we have. I'm just calling for people to chill out a bit and give them all some more time. I think we can all see how much it's got to Wilder after the Millwall game, I can't believe someone who has been in professional football for this long has lost it that quickly.

 

[Nasik Blade]

It's not so much the league position or results that have people worried just yet, it's the utterly clueless and abysmal performances we have put in to date.

Under Heath, Adams and Weir when we were as shit as I can remember you could at least see what the method and plan was even if it clearly wasn't working.

Fom the games seen this this season I can't see a method or plan and we look all at sea. Unless addressed pretty quickly,starting against Oxford, we are in serious trouble this season.

This is an honest question, you genuinely think after 4/5 games it won't get turned around? I just think that so many people have fallen into the hire and fire trap of modern football. I think that's part of the reason we're in this league in the first place. The season we were relegated we had 3 managers in that season. I think players just start picking up a wage when clubs get like that. I hope you're wrong and we'll turn it around. Personally I like Wilder's style and we've been crying out for a manager like him for so long. It'd be gutting to get rid without seeing what he could properly do.

 

[Darthblade]

What struck me B, was that phrase "we enquired about one and were told he's not for sale at any price, so that was it" (or something similar)
So are we saying we just walked away at that?
I didn't see Birmingham giving up that easily.
Unless of course, our policy is that everyone is for sale at the right (or somewhere near it) price?

Everybody in the Football world knows that with our Board(s) over the years, we will "lift our skirt" for ten bob and a bag of chocolate buttons !! Its the Blades way .......

UTB & FTP

 

[BushBlade]

What struck me B, was that phrase "we enquired about one and were told he's not for sale at any price, so that was it" (or something similar)
So are we saying we just walked away at that?
I didn't see Birmingham giving up that easily.
Unless of course, our policy is that everyone is for sale at the right (or somewhere near it) price?

But when we come calling for a L1 player based in the south and probably on a decent wage he's not really going to be that bothered. When a championship club comes in and offers big wages, it's a different ball game.

 

[Darthblade]

This is an honest question, you genuinely think after 4/5 games it won't get turned around? I just think that so many people have fallen into the hire and fire trap of modern football. I think that's part of the reason we're in this league in the first place. The season we were relegated we had 3 managers in that season. I think players just start picking up a wage when clubs get like that. I hope you're wrong and we'll turn it around. Personally I like Wilder's style and we've been crying out for a manager like him for so long. It'd be gutting to get rid without seeing what he could properly do.

The current squad of players have offered no evidence at all that they're capable of "turning it around" and several of the squad have demonstrated their inadequacy over an extended period of time .......

Tufty may be getting some backing but he's not been able to get sufficient backing to address the glaring deficiencies within the squad ......

UTB & FTP

 

[bartman]

Because once again, our board haven't got the main targets. We do the same every time. They are his third/fourth/fifth choices in some situations. .

Apart from MacFadzean,how do you know the rest aren't his main targets ?

 

[Marcus Aurelias]

On the side, away from here, i'm a sucker for the old Lions & Tigers. If I ever meet Walter fuckin' Palmer, his heed will be hangin' on my wall.

Don't get me on with the Tajii .. that ain't tradition.. i'd add a picture, but too graphic.
If ya a little bit of a crusader for the safekeep of all wild animals and are against the brutality shown in circus, zoos and sea life/sea world centres, ya with me and a pal for life.

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Logged in just to 'like' that, yer big soft get!

 

[Bartyblade]

Apart from MacFadzean,how do you know the rest aren't his main targets ?

What difference does it make.
No one's going to waste a chance to criticise by thinking about anything

 

[Marcus Aurelias]

r

While your doing that I'll work on the bottoms of his feet with a hammer (I've read far too much Chris Ryan than is good for me).

And after you'd done that, I'd lay him on his front and take a pair of bolt croppers to both his hamstrings, just behind his knees. I'm not totally heartless though. I'd say if you can make it to the door, I'll give you a couple of Ibuprofen for the pain.

 

[bartman]

What difference does it make.
No one's going to waste a chance to criticise by thinking about anything

There seems to be quite a few posters like that at the moment

 

[Esablade]

Apart from MacFadzean,how do you know the rest aren't his main targets ?

Well, the date would rather suggest we're not on our main targets...at least I'd hope we'd have sorted them before August...that and Wilder's comments...

 

[bartman]

Well, the date would rather suggest we're not on our main targets...at least I'd hope we'd have sorted them before August...that and Wilder's comments...

We've signed 8 or 9 players (couldn't be bothered to check) most of which were sorted before the season started. Are you seriously saying none of these were main targets ? Today's date has nothing to do with whether we have our main targets or not

I reckon most teams in all leagues will be adding to their squads up to the close on deadline day so obviously they are just as incompetent as The Blades

 

[Esablade]

We've signed 8 or 9 players (couldn't be bothered to check) most of which were sorted before the season started. Are you seriously saying none of these were main targets ? Today's date has nothing to do with whether we have our main targets or not

I reckon most teams in all leagues will be adding to their squads up to the close on deadline day so obviously they are just as incompetent as The Blades

How many were shipped out here?
How many were our top players?
What have we replaced them with so far?

Some will have been first targets, that's great, some were 'back-up'...we appear to have missed out on quite a few...in key positions...

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Logged in just to 'like' that, yer big soft get!

Thank You.

More to the old football....

Appreciated Supermatic

 

[bartman]

How many were shipped out here?
How many were our top players?
What have we replaced them with so far?

Some will have been first targets, that's great, some were 'back-up'...we appear to have missed out on quite a few...in key positions...

How many we have shipped out is not relevant to your point. It is whether the players we have brought in so far have been our top choices or not. That is something only Wilder knows and we can only surmise. However we did need first 11 players and back up and he seems to have done this so far. Whether he has signed the right quality players and whether he can manage them to succeed is open to debate

Missed out on quite a few ? We wont know that until the end of the window when, touch wood, we will have brought in a leader at centre half and a first choice winger

 

[Esablade]

How many we have shipped out is not relevant to your point. It is whether the players we have brought in so far have been our top choices or not. That is something only Wilder knows and we can only surmise. However we did need first 11 players and back up and he seems to have done this so far. Whether he has signed the right quality players and whether he can manage them to succeed is open to debate

Missed out on quite a few ? We wont know that until the end of the window when, touch wood, we will have brought in a leader at centre half and a first choice winger

I rather think that how many a club ships out, and the quality of those players, has a bearing on how many you need to ship in...and the quality needed..

Hopefully, we still have time...but things are seeking a little desperate with the last round of 'targets'

UTB!

 

[FriethBlade]

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How many we have shipped out is not relevant to your point. It is whether the players we have brought in so far have been our top choices or not. That is something only Wilder knows and we can only surmise. However we did need first 11 players and back up and he seems to have done this so far. Whether he has signed the right quality players and whether he can manage them to succeed is open to debate

Missed out on quite a few ? We wont know that until the end of the window when, touch wood, we will have brought in a leader at centre half and a first choice winger

If the players brought in so far have been our top choices I'd respectfully suggest ww are @@@@@@ !

 

[Toronto Blade]

Updates from Wilder from the OS
The Blades boss added: "It's frustrating because we've not been smashed by anybody. I can't think of a game where we've been totally 'done."

Didn't lowly Southend score 3 goals in the first 15 minutes and go on to win 3-0 at a canter.