McCabe 'wont rest' til we're out of league 1

[BusheyBlade]

Had we sufficient playing ability in reserve post-Ched, we wouldn't have needed to be in in the fucking playoffs and allowed the pigs to sail past us.

Watching us struggle like fuck to get by Stevenage with a hoofed cross into the box for Porter to chance it, I'd say we were never favourites anyway.

And tell me this, would you say on that sunny day the 120 minutes of football was our finest moment?

Next!

pommpey

I'll give you the fact that we were woefully unprepared for Ched going down but in Hoskins and Beattie we should have had enough to muster the points to go up automatically. Remember the horrific display which left us 2-0 down at home to Stevenage. We battled back for a point but 3 points in that game would probably have seen us up.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Simple solution, or at least a stepping stone.

Ignore KM, go for the Prince. Buy him out of his 50% stake in the Club (£10 is a 1000% profit, minus capital gains tax), and then KM must deal with this utter rubbish. If he won't fund the club in this scenario as we can't match his millions, then personally, I think it'd be a risk worth taking and bring our problems to the front....just how badly (or good) we are run, just how bad (or good) a business model we are etc and ultimately, may lead to sanctions/fines/points deductions but beyond that, new owners (of course, with a 50% stake we'd be influential).

What about the £14m he's paid for the football club shares?

 

[BladeInIreland]

The way i see it, probably wrong but feel free to correct me.

We originally didn't attract buyers because we had a huge debt to mccabe, added to the actual value of the club.which made us a very expensive championship club.

Now we don't attract buyers because even though the debts wiped off, theres also the prince to pay off (who would probably want a profit for his investment) and the complications of ownership of the ground (our biggest asset)

 

[Champagneblade]

Only time we have done anything under McCabe has been when we pushed the boat out, backed Warnock, brought in Ifill, Short etc and got promoted.

Aside from the Evans season when our play deserved to go up, we've sold or lost major assets every summer.

The owners need to make their mind up. Are they backing managers or not? For all the early optimism, Wilder has received the least backing of all managers. The sum total of team building is that we've sold a promising young player for around 1.4m to us after deductions and we've replaced him with an 18 year old lad we've borrowed.

This is on top of a mighty clear out in the summer all replaced with free transfers and nominal fees to Bury and Brentford.

We talk of operating a lower Budget as if it's an achievement whilst then still selling better players - talk about cake and eat it - and since the sale we've failed to win all games and spent the grand total of fuck all on much needed new players.

I know it costs money to run a club and cash needs injecting by the owners for running it, and they also know this, but there is no urgency in getting out of the division. Who were the key signings to get usout the division this year? Reduced Budget and still selling assets. I think the manager is sold short here if we're quibbling over a few grand to get key players in.

We'll be here forever. And we'll certainly not get another 30 goal per season striker in the next few years. We couldn't even get that free transfer right.

We really are a poor, spineless, rudderless club. And we could so easily have been a West Brom or Stoke with better decision making.

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Nothing will change until McCabe goes. Failure, tired, run out of ideas. But he isnt going to go due to his stranglehold on the club.

 

[pommpey]

Nothing will change until McCabe goes. Failure, tired, run out of ideas. But he isnt going to go due to his stranglehold on the club.

Spot on.

People imagine I have some sort of personal vendetta toward him. It isn't true. I wish him all the best of success, with or without Sheffield United.

Problem is I cannot imagine any route up the division and into the Championship under his chairmanship. His strategy is based on failure and that failure transfers itself onto the performance on the pitch. And the more people switch target to players with low ability at this level, the more people switch target to managers left holding the responsibility of coaching those low ability players and the more people turn on each other, the safer he is in his elevated position.

pommpey

 

[sothall blade]

Lucky for him this season he might get what he wants!

I think season after season of selling our best player, running the club in an amateurish manner and just being a general arrogant cheap individual might just catch up with him this year. We're always 3 or 4 players away from being a 'complete' team, and we've always got to wait for 'the loan window' or 'January' to rectify it. Or the 'pathway to youth' might solve it eh?

Wilson, Weir, Clough, Adkins and Wilder aren't all bad managers. The fans aren't bad fans either, 6 years of patience is wearing thin - and who can blame us? McCabe call should feel lucky he can even walk down the street in Sheffield after what we've turned into. A lot of clubs wouldn't have stood for this - but he is a master at shifting the blame you've got to give him that.

Fucking football eh.

McCabe,s favorite saying (apart from game changing investment) Hey ! there,s no bigger blade than me !

 

[sothall blade]

My old Dad used to say that some football club's owners didn't really want their club to go up. He even said it about United once and we fell out at the time. I regret it now, I was very defensive of United as a kid and wouldn't hear anything wrong said about them.

But let's just take the time to reflect on the past decade. There's a song that goes 'If there's a wrong want to do it' and you'd think that it was written for McCabe.

So I'll ask the same question to all my fellow Blades several decades after my Dad put it to me. Is it really in McCabe's interest for United to get promotion? He's been getting top end Championship support year after year whilst providing us with with lower league dross. He's systematically sold off our best players and every year since the Prem, we've become weaker than the season before, and yet still our support has remained strong and even increased. If we go up, he'll have to pay out far more in wages, but because it's unlikely that we'll see ourselves as promotion contenders, our gates might not even hold their current levels.

So does 'Sir Kev' really want us to go up, or has he lost interest in seeing the club progress, and just happy to tread water and see the annual pattern of 'hope-let down-despair, repeated ad infinitum as long as we all continue to buy into it and the shiite continues to fall away from him and onto his latest fall-guy? Or could it all be pure bad luck?

You remind me of myself with that quote when i first started work,the bloke that taught me my trade used to say why do you support that bunch of wankers, they have and always will let their fans down, many arguments followed but now as i have got older i have started to think was he right all them years ago sadly i am starting to believe he was

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Serious question here

How long are we stuck with Mcabe for? Is it till he dies? retires?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Serious question here

How long are we stuck with Mcabe for? Is it till he dies? retires?

I'd imagine it goes to his family inc Scott and Simon so no good employing the Jackal LS.

Unless woodwardfan can raise enough to buy him out.

 

[Silent Blade]

in august 1962 I went with my dad and uncle both passionate blades (both sadly passed now) I was passed over the heads down to the front of john street terrace and within 5 minutes was hooked for life

v Fulham (Wed 22nd) or v Ipswich (Sat 25th) ?

 

[GrayBlade]

You remind me of myself with that quote when i first started work,the bloke that taught me my trade used to say why do you support that bunch of wankers, they have and always will let their fans down, many arguments followed but now as i have got older i have started to think was he right all them years ago sadly i am starting to believe he was

And by the time the realisation sets in that this is the way it's always going to be, it's too bloody late to take up fishing.

The problem is almost every close season resets me back to default enthusiasm mode, and I think that next time around will be better and they'll not stitch us up. I think that I might just have carried out my last reset though. As Bush said 'fool me once shame on you, fool me for 40 odd years, shame on me'.

 

[Silent Blade]

Serious question here

How long are we stuck with Mcabe for? Is it till he dies? retires?

If anyone can afford to buy him out. I would imagine that would cost at least £30M

 

[pommpey]

If anyone can afford to buy him out. I would imagine that would cost at least £30M

Completely? As in 'deMcCabed'

If I had it (plus £20m to spend on players) I would do it.

pommpey

 

[Sneinton Blade 1952]

Any apologist for the McCabes control over the blades must read Bell and Armstrong's excellent analysis in their book 'Fit and Proper'. I believe as I think they believe, his interest in the blades has been more about enhancing his own global property empire rather than the profits of the latter enhancing the interests of the blades. His family certainly have a great deal of commercial property benefits from the blades both here and abroad. He could have chosen - he does appear in the Sunday Times rich list - a different priority as owner and supported the football side of affairs. I have said many times, until he is gone, it doesn't matter who manages us - could be Mourino - we will continue to decline. MCCABE OUT! Let's build a social movement around reclaiming our football club. MCCABE OUT!

 

[flashinblade1889]

Serious question here

How long are we stuck with Mcabe for? Is it till he dies? retires?

Yep and when he pops his clogs we've got the fuckin chuckle brothers to take over.

 

[metalblade]

If anyone can afford to buy him out. I would imagine that would cost at least £30M

And there is the problem. McCabe wants every penny that he has put into the club back but that is never going to happen nobody in their right mind would buy a club or half a club which does not own it's ground. I was laughed at a few years ago when I said we were getting into a Rotherham Utd situation but think about it any new buyer would have to have funds for a new stadium because one thing is for sure McCabe will keep his sweaty palms on the lane.

 

[Silent Blade]

Completely? As in 'deMcCabed'

If I had it (plus £20m to spend on players) I would do it.

pommpey

And McCabe will enjoy making posts in this forum criticising your leadership!

 

[Esablade]

Makes me laugh ( a bit) this talk of McCabe/Princey wanting a return on their 'investment'.

Sorry chaps. Unless you can steer the club to the Prem and beyond ( Europe=five years etc) it doesn't really work like that.

McCabe's got the assets, he can put the rent up each year to scrape some back, build the flats where he likes etc...

Princey can go back to Football Manager, a few lessons learned in the world of grown up business and the club is 'debt free' with a great fanbase eager for progress...Good time to get out and a fresh start.

UTB.

 

[Sean Thornton]

And McCabe will enjoy making posts in this forum criticising your leadership!

That pitch is fucking terrible?

 

[pommpey]

And McCabe will enjoy making posts in this forum criticising your leadership!

Feller, I am just gathering my portfolio for my Masters in Engineering and Management. Amongst the submissions are all my naval write ups.

If McCabe wants some coaching in CLM, I'm ready.

pommpey

 

[Aston max]

v Fulham (Wed 22nd) or v Ipswich (Sat 25th) ?

Ipswich my dad finally gave in

 

[dave the drummer]

Danny,

Based on football results then McCabe is the worse we've had

But based on running the club the irony he's the most ambitious Chairman and the most well meaning Chairman we've ever had.

I remember our Chairmen from the 80's and 90ms and I'd much rather have McCabe.
In them days off the field we were a joke, we were run like a lower division team.
We could hardly attract anyone.

Now off field we are in a fantastic position.
We have the biggest budget in league every year
We always attract big name managers or someone with a fantastic cv because we pay big salaries
and are the favourites for promotion every year.

Off the field McCabe is doing well
It's on the field we are a joke BUT there's a long way to go yet.

Danny,

Based on football results then McCabe is the worse we've had

But based on running the club the irony he's the most ambitious Chairman and the most well meaning Chairman we've ever had.

I remember our Chairmen from the 80's and 90ms and I'd much rather have McCabe.
In them days off the field we were a joke, we were run like a lower division team.
We could hardly attract anyone.

Now off field we are in a fantastic position.
We have the biggest budget in league every year
We always attract big name managers or someone with a fantastic cv because we pay big salaries
and are the favourites for promotion every year.

Off the field McCabe is doing well
It's on the field we are a joke BUT there's a long way to go yet.

 

[Aston max]

v Fulham (Wed 22nd) or v Ipswich (Sat 25th) ?

still got the programme somewhere along with a few more from over the years

 

[Sean Thornton]

Any apologist for the McCabes control over the blades must read Bell and Armstrong's excellent analysis in their book 'Fit and Proper'. I believe as I think they believe, his interest in the blades has been more about enhancing his own global property empire rather than the profits of the latter enhancing the interests of the blades. His family certainly have a great deal of commercial property benefits from the blades both here and abroad. He could have chosen - he does appear in the Sunday Times rich list - a different priority as owner and supported the football side of affairs. I have said many times, until he is gone, it doesn't matter who manages us - could be Mourino - we will continue to decline. MCCABE OUT! Let's build a social movement around reclaiming our football club. MCCABE OUT!

No they haven't. And it doesn't say that in the book, only in your head. I've got it so feel free to tell me which page.

His contacts in China are from his involvement prior to the PL season and despite the debacle of Chengdu not because of it. (Incidentally Chengdu cost the club less than Adkibs lap dog Hammond did)

 

[Silent Blade]

No they haven't. And it doesn't say that in the book, only in your head. I've got it so feel free to tell me which page.

His contacts in China are from his involvement prior to the PL season and despite the debacle of Chengdu not because of it. (Incidentally Chengdu cost the club less than Adkibs lap dog Hammond did)

I havent read the book. Would you say that what was written about McCabe is accurate?

 

[Silent Blade]

Ipswich my dad finally gave in

Won 2-1 against the League champions, Doc Pace and Ronnie Simpson scored. Alf Ramsey was still Ipswich's manager before he became England's manager later that season

Team was Hodgkinson, Coldwell, G Shaw, Richardson, J.Shaw, Summers, Allchurch, Kettleborough, Pace, Hodgson and Simpson

 

[CarlMcBlade]

If all the most vocal critics amongst us, went on holiday for a month. The team they came back to would be much, much better. I'm no happy clapper, but at this stage of the season the team need the supporters to errrm. . . Support.

 

[Aston max]

Won 2-1 against the League champions, Doc Pace and Ronnie Simpson scored. Alf Ramsey was still Ipswich's manager before he became England's manager later that season

Team was Hodgkinson, Coldwell, G Shaw, Richardson, J.Shaw, Summers, Allchurch, Kettleborough, Pace, Hodgson and Simpson

my dad always said to me watch and copy doc pace lad and you wont go wrong sadly I ended up being an egg chaser

 

[Sneinton Blade 1952]

No they haven't. And it doesn't say that in the book, only in your head. I've got it so feel free to tell me which page.

His contacts in China are from his involvement prior to the PL season and despite the debacle of Chengdu not because of it. (Incidentally Chengdu cost the club less than Adkibs lap dog Hammond did)

Sean - read the back cover of the book again. And re-read the book. I also know one of the authors so I give you a line from a brilliant film -Glengarry Glen Ross - and which you might learn from: "you never open your mouth until you know what the shot is"