POLL: Do you have faith in Wilder?

[SelbyBlade]

I emailed J Phipps with a few games to go suggesting we push the button then, as Wilder had already won promotion with Northampton and we looked finished. My feeling was that CW would then had the remainder of the season to assess the players rather than wasting 10 games at the beginning of next season.
However it has worked out better as had CW assessed what we had the downward spiral of utilizing what we had losing the best player (Maguire, Murphy) making us less again next season would have continued. Wilder, like Bassett did in 89, has pressed the reset button and hopefully the spiral will be reversed.

 

[Higgo's Belly]

He's done nothing other than release a load of players who would have been released anyway.

There's been somewhat of an overreaction so far.

This isn't me slagging him off, far from it, I really like the bloke and think we'll have s great chance with a proper lower league manager in charge.

A lot will depend on how much he's hindered by our car crash ownership.

As for the phallacy of us needing a 'straight-talker', this is quite frankly rubbish.

Warnock was a straight talker, and loads of people got their knickers in a twist when he said something they didn't like. Same with Clough. To some extent same with Adkins.

I hope against hope that's he's the one, the perfect fit, snd the right man fur us. But then I hoped the same thing last season.

2 weeks into his reign, before a balls been kicked, a signing has been linked, and just a few players released, is far too early to form any kind of proper opinion.

I agree its too early to form any kind of proper opinion on Wilder, however you state that "HE HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THAN RELEASE A LOAD OF PLAYERS WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ANYWAY". I'm not sure on what you base this, unless you have some inside knowledge. Nobody knows who Adkins was intending to offer contracts to, but as you are guessing about his retained list, I will do so also and state that I believe that Adkins may well have offered new contracts to the likes of McEverley and Flynn. I do not believe that he would have transfer listed so many players also and he would perhaps have made Hammond captain. Pure speculation, like you stating that all the players released by CW would have been released anyway. CW has made a brilliant start with his positive action over the retained list.

 

[Deleted member 875]

Where is the poll option that consists of we should sack him because he has been manager 3 weeks and we still have yet to win a game under his management?

 

[Bladesman]

Too early to say, as people kept saying last season its results that count.

He has a cleaner slate than Adkins had last summer, so no excuses for not being able to improve on last season regardless of what divisions he has managed in before.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

3 Nos out of 173 total votes so far.

 

[SB_90]

I said before cant remember the last time a manager had a greater 1st impression.

But we cant know until we start the season 1st 8/10 games because I thought we had the find of the century under David weir especially after Notts County it was like watching Barcelona but then turned it was the only good performance. Because 9 games later he was utter disaster couldn't score to save their life still remember when baxter won the september goal of the month by default as it was the only goal & the worst boss in utd history he makes adkins look like guardiola

 

[PeteBlade]

I agree its too early to form any kind of proper opinion on Wilder, however you state that "HE HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THAN RELEASE A LOAD OF PLAYERS WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ANYWAY". I'm not sure on what you base this, unless you have some inside knowledge. Nobody knows who Adkins was intending to offer contracts to, but as you are guessing about his retained list, I will do so also and state that I believe that Adkins may well have offered new contracts to the likes of McEverley and Flynn. I do not believe that he would have transfer listed so many players also and he would perhaps have made Hammond captain. Pure speculation, like you stating that all the players released by CW would have been released anyway. CW has made a brilliant start with his positive action over the retained list.

Part of my reasoning is that he'd already shipped out a load of players, constantly talked about the need t trim the squad and couldn't recruit in January without getting rid of players.

Also, we couldn't afford to keep half of these guys on. The likes of McNulty and Scougall would also have been listed.

If you get past your irrational hatred/obsession with Adkins, you'd be able to see it was a sensible suggestion.

 

[PeteBlade]

3 Nos out of 173 total votes so far.

You'd have to be pretty special to have no faith in a manager 3 weeks into his tenure.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

You'd have to be pretty special to have no faith in a manager 3 weeks into his tenure.

I dunno, seeing as where we're at, blanket cynicism might have been expected. Especially with CW being recruited from a lower level.

He seems to be pretty universally welcomed though, having got even the sceptical warming to him with his frankness & his decisiveness so far.

I see that Adkins is now favourite for the Bolton job. I'll bet their generally disillusioned fanbase won't quickly warm to him in anything like the same way that Wilder's being appreciated here.

 

[PeteBlade]

I dunno, seeing as where we're at, blanket cynicism might have been expected. Especially with CW being recruited from a lower level.

He seems to be pretty universally welcomed though, having got even the sceptical warming to him with his frankness & his decisiveness so far.

I see that Adkins is now favourite for the Bolton job. I'll bet their generally disillusioned fanbase won't quickly warm to him in anything like the same way that Wilder's being appreciated here.

Most people are still cynical about the club in general, snd you'd have to have a pretty awful memory not to remember how positive the reaction was last season.

You're another one who somehow manages to turn almost every post into a rant about Adkins.

It's a bit odd.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Most people are still cynical about the club in general, snd you'd have to have a pretty awful memory not to remember how positive the reaction was last season.

You're another one who somehow manages to turn almost every post into a rant about Adkins.

It's a bit odd.

No rant, just a reasonable comparison.

You're right, Adkins's reception was positive last season. And no wonder - he was seen as a bit of a messiah, all set to apply his magic touch of ensuring sides Third Division promotion.

But it's very different this time round - realistic, grounded, moulded by hard experience of disappointment. No getting giddy this time. Even so, pretty much universal appreciation of the appointment & of Wilder's distinctive first steps here.

 

[PeteBlade]

No rant, just a reasonable comparison.

You're right, Adkins's reception was positive last season. And no wonder - he was seen as a bit of a messiah, all set to apply his magic touch of ensuring sides Third Division promotion.

But it's very different this time round - realistic, grounded, moulded by hard experience of disappointment. No getting giddy this time. Even so, pretty much universal appreciation of the appointment & of Wilder's distinctive first steps here.

Definitely reasonable unless you turn the majority of posts into saying the same thing.

I'm pleased with Wilder but bloody hell, I've never known so many cliches thrown at a guy who has so far released some out of contract players, a bit patronising.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

Definitely reasonable unless you turn the majority of posts into saying the same thing.

I'm pleased with Wilder but bloody hell, I've never known so many cliches thrown at a guy who has so far released some out of contract players, a bit patronising.

You're obviously not getting caught up on the bladeacoaster of excitement, eh Patronised Pete?

 

[PeteBlade]

You're obviously not getting caught up on the bladeacoaster of excitement, eh Patronised Pete?

We've been here plenty of times before.

I'm hopeful, but we'll know more when we've signed a couple of players or even played a game of football.

I'm not involved in the overreaction if that's what you mean.

 

[Higgo's Belly]

Part of my reasoning is that he'd already shipped out a load of players, constantly talked about the need t trim the squad and couldn't recruit in January without getting rid of players.

Also, we couldn't afford to keep half of these guys on. The likes of McNulty and Scougall would also have been listed.

If you get past your irrational hatred/obsession with Adkins, you'd be able to see it was a sensible suggestion.

You posted "HE HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THAN SHIP OUT A LOAD OF PLAYERS WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ANYWAY".
I'm suprised by you posting this, as you are the first to criticise anyone for posting stuff that is not based on fact. Nobody knows who Adkins intended to offer new contracts too. CW has released players that Adkins may well have kept and you are right he would probably have transfer listed McNulty and Scougall. It is pure speculation on your part, as it is very unlikely that Adkins and CW retained lists would have been identical, as you suggest by your comment.
I stand by all my comments about Adkins, which you believe are irrational. I think most fans now accept what a total disaster he was, however some like you refuse to admit they got it wrong. For the record I also thought Adkins would be a good appointment, however I soon realised that this was not the case and that he had to go. Others continued to bury their head in the sand insisting that he was not to blame and it was all the boards sake. Admit it, you were wrong about Adkins.

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

We've been here plenty of times before.

I'm hopeful, but we'll know more when we've signed a couple of players or even played a game of football.

I'm not involved in the overreaction if that's what you mean.

Accepting that that's your point of view personally, was wondering if you thought it was a bit unusual for Wilder to be so widely acclaimed (assuming the poll is representative) at a club that's had so many hard knocks?

Also, whether you thought that Wilder's decisive actions have actually won a number of sceptics round (at least temporarily)? And also whether you thought, if Adkins is in fact appointed at Bolton, that he'd get a more lukewarm reception there than the enthusiastic one Wilder's had here?

 

[PeteBlade]

You posted "HE HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THAN SHIP OUT A LOAD OF PLAYERS WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ANYWAY".
I'm suprised by you posting this, as you are the first to criticise anyone for posting stuff that is not based on fact. Nobody knows who Adkins intended to offer new contracts too. CW has released players that Adkins may well have kept and you are right he would probably have transfer listed McNulty and Scougall. It is pure speculation on your part, as it is very unlikely that Adkins and CW retained lists would have been identical, as you suggest by your comment.
I stand by all my comments about Adkins, which you believe are irrational. I think most fans now accept what a total disaster he was, however some like you refuse to admit they got it wrong. For the record I also thought Adkins would be a good appointment, however I soon realised that this was not the case and that he had to go. Others continued to bury their head in the sand insisting that he was not to blame and it was all the boards sake. Admit it, you were wrong about Adkins.

Can't do it can you?
Can't reply without another long rant about Adkins, I haven't even read this one all the way through.
The vast majority of your posts since joining are the same.

 

[BushBlade]

I emailed J Phipps with a few games to go suggesting we push the button then, as Wilder had already won promotion with Northampton and we looked finished. My feeling was that CW would then had the remainder of the season to assess the players rather than wasting 10 games at the beginning of next season.
However it has worked out better as had CW assessed what we had the downward spiral of utilizing what we had losing the best player (Maguire, Murphy) making us less again next season would have continued. Wilder, like Bassett did in 89, has pressed the reset button and hopefully the spiral will be reversed.

So if Wilder turns out to be crap, it's your fault.

 

[BushBlade]

I said before cant remember the last time a manager had a greater 1st impression.

But we cant know until we start the season 1st 8/10 games because I thought we had the find of the century under David weir especially after Notts County it was like watching Barcelona but then turned it was the only good performance. Because 9 games later he was utter disaster couldn't score to save their life still remember when baxter won the september goal of the month by default as it was the only goal & the worst boss in utd history he makes adkins look like guardiola

I thought we were lucky against Notts County. We looked fragile, weren't clinical, conceded a poor equaliser and were lucky that their player fouled KMac and got sent off. I put it down to 'first game nerves' (we were a bit lucky against Leicester when we started our promotion campaign but kicked on) when it was probably our best game under Weir. What a disaster he turned out to be.

 

[PeteBlade]

Accepting that that's your point of view personally, was wondering if you thought it was a bit unusual for Wilder to be so widely acclaimed (assuming the poll is representative) at a club that's had so many hard knocks?

Also, whether you thought that Wilder's decisive actions have actually won a number of sceptics round (at least temporarily)? And also whether you thought, if Adkins is in fact appointed at Bolton, that he'd get a more lukewarm reception there than the enthusiastic one Wilder's had here?

I think 'Wildly acclaimed" is a bit of an exaggeration but he's just won the league and is a Blade so I wouldn't say I'm surprised that he's been well received.

Anyone ridding us of those wasters was always going to be popular but as said above I think this would have been done anyway.

Let's be clear though, I'm not sceptical of Wilder, far from it, I'm sceptical of the people who run the club.

I've no idea about Adkins reception at Bolton, I've moved on from Adkins, even if I still find the attitude towards him puzzling from some.

 

[Jonboy]

Where is the poll option that consists of we should sack him because he has been manager 3 weeks and we still have yet to win a game under his management?

Wilder OUT!!!

 

[blackydog]

I'm still worrying about Saturday, after that when I can relax I will give it some thought,

If they lose, brilliant, over the moon. If they go up i see it as more cert Sheffield doubles bet on Saturdays, making me some extra dosh as they will lose more than they win before being relegated and happy days again.

 

[blade too long]

why have we got a thread asking if referee Graham Poll has faith in Wilder

 

[Bladezz]

Hard to be negative at the moment about CW everything he has done has been good.

Billy as Captain! - Great
Released List - Great
Transfer listed players - Great
His interviews - Great.

Let him sign some players and then we can judge on that also. However looking st the incoming rumours on this site we should have signed Baudry who has gone to Doncaster haha

 

[Russ]

What a silly Poll

 

[PeteBlade]

Hard to be negative at the moment about CW everything he has done has been good.

Billy as Captain! - Great
Released List - Great
Transfer listed players - Great
His interviews - Great.

Let him sign some players and then we can judge on that also. However looking st the incoming rumours on this site we should have signed Baudry who has gone to Doncaster haha

I will never fail to be amused at people rating a manager by his interviews.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I agree its too early to form any kind of proper opinion on Wilder, however you state that "HE HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THAN RELEASE A LOAD OF PLAYERS WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED ANYWAY". I'm not sure on what you base this, unless you have some inside knowledge. Nobody knows who Adkins was intending to offer contracts to, but as you are guessing about his retained list, I will do so also and state that I believe that Adkins may well have offered new contracts to the likes of McEverley and Flynn. I do not believe that he would have transfer listed so many players also and he would perhaps have made Hammond captain. Pure speculation, like you stating that all the players released by CW would have been released anyway. CW has made a brilliant start with his positive action over the retained list.

I'm convinced Hammonds contract extension is the work of Adkins and Adkins would have made him club captain.

On this occasion we need to say a big thank you to Kev for pulling the trigger.

 

[DifferentClass]

I have some confidence in Wilder and hope he'll get us places, but despite everything he's done I'm still waiting till I see him managing the Blades on the touchline.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

I will never fail to be amused at people rating a manager by his interviews.

Know what you mean but for me it gives a good indication of the character of the manager. The character of the manager is always reflected in the team on the pitch.

From what I've seen so far I have more faith in Wilder than Adkins, Clough and Wilson before him.