highest wages in league one

[blade too long]

I think the £6m figure is true. I'm sure Clough's wage bill is there or thereabouts also. What I don't think is that we ever had 43 senior professionals in the squad as purported by some on here, which was the point I was making.

the official club site has never listed more than 33 on any squad list this season

 

[Esablade]

When did I say he didn't slash the wage bill?

I said we never had 43 senior professionals in the squad, and the point remains.

Bad flounce Barney

You were making comparisons saying he'd spent the same as Clough.
This is what you spent most of last season roorerin about...Adkins spending, and now it would appear to be fact that he slashed the previous budget by one third...

Which I presume you know accept?

I think the £6m figure is true. I'm sure Clough's wage bill is there or thereabouts also. What I don't think is that we ever had 43 senior professionals in the squad as purported by some on here, which was the point I was making.

 

[BushBlade]

In that case, the point you were making is wrong...here are the staff costs for Clough's last year.
Over £9million, as quoted on here by several people...

So, as I said...if the £6million figure is true, Adkins slashed the wage bill by around a third.

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Our turnover is just over £11m though. To stay within FFP our player wage bill would have to be around £6,775. Still staggering.

 

[PeteBlade]

logic is 91 other clubs get rid of players they dont want , why should we be any different
if wednesday could unload all these dog shit players surely we can oust most of ours

Date from Position Nationality Name To Fee Ref.
1 July 2015 RB Lewis Buxton Rotherham United [a] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 CM Giles Coke Ipswich Town Released [20]
1 July 2015 CM Paul Corry Northampton Town [c] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 CB Rafael Floro Belenenses [d] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 CB Dejan Kelhar Olimpija Ljubljana [e] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 CF Gary Madine Bolton Wanderers [f] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 AM Jacques Maghoma Birmingham City [g] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 LB Joe Mattock Rotherham United [h] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 CM Rhys McCabe Dunfermline Athletic Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 RB Matt Young Dover Athletic [j] Free transfer [20]
1 July 2015 CB Kamil Zayatte Al-Raed [k] Free transfer [20]
2 July 2015 GK Chris Kirkland Preston North End [l] Free transfer [32]
2 July 2015 CF Chris Maguire Rotherham United [m] Free transfer [34]
1 September 2015 CF Stevie May Preston North End Undisclosed [35]
1 February 2016 LB Rhoys Wiggins Bournemouth £200,000 [36]

lots of lovely free transfers
why you persist in apologising for Adkins inadequacy in the transfer market in getting shot is what defies logic

Because unless you're a complete and utter moron, you'll realise that "getting shot" of contracted players on decent salaries isn't as straight forward as copying and pasting a list of players sold from the bbc website.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Just a historic note which could remind us how far we have sunk and how far we need to climb out of this hole we are in; also to show how bad our managers were back in the years 2007/8 and 9.

Etched in my memory: Our players' wage bill 2007/8 £23m. 2008/9 £17m.

We had fans who insisted the Board weren't backing the managers then too.

We failed in those years too. " McCabe's fault " as ever!!

How much will it take to get us back to the Premier League when we can't get out of League 1 spending way more than the vast majority of the other clubs?

What's Wednesday's player wage bill these days?

I think we might be in 'oblivion' actually. Is this what 'oblivion' feels like?

 

[blade too long]

Because unless you're a complete and utter moron, you'll realise that "getting shot" of contracted players on decent salaries isn't as straight forward as copying and pasting a list of players sold from the bbc website.

so whats the difference between wednesday selling a shit player on bigger wages than any of ours are on moron
they didnt sell them on the bbc website
they sold them to other clubs direct

like we can

what are you argueing
again
wednesday can sell players but we cant as as you put ours are wasters
no doubt thats what most owls fans thought of those they sold on

we dont have some special selection of really really unsellable players
just players we dont want , like any other club

tell me in one sentence why ours are more unsaleable than any other clubs players
and because they are shit is not a good answer
thats why the other 91 clubs sell their players

 

[BushBlade]

Our turnover is just over £11m though. To stay within FFP our player wage bill would have to be around £6,775. Still staggering.

Sorry, ignore that. I'm talking shit. Two different definitions of turnover.

 

[Barney]

Bad flounce Barney

You were making comparisons saying he'd spent the same as Clough.
This is what you spent most of last season roorerin about...Adkins spending, and now it would appear to be fact that he slashed the previous budget by one third...

Which I presume you know accept?

Great stuff. If you could tell me where I said Adkins spent same as Clough and that the wage bill hadn't been slashed, that'd be brill.

 

[Esablade]

Sorry, ignore that. I'm talking shit. Two different definitions of turnover.

The basic point being that Clough was allowed to spend a staggering amount on some reyt dross whilst Adkins was the start of cutting the wage bill back and now Wilder is going to get it more in line with a L1 side.

I still fully expect us to be competitive and I'm sure Wilder will have come into the job knowing the parameters and be ready for action, as it were.

UTB!

 

[alcoblade]

again , what are you defending
wednesday werent skint theyd just got iphone chancer in charge and spent 4 million on blackforestcakieri
what has what we were paying them got to do with getting rid of them
doubt if many were on 100 k a week

what does it matter what wednesday initially paid for those anyway

What you are paying them under contract, and the length of that contract, is the major factor in the ease of which you can get rid of them.

If you can't grasp this most basic of concepts, after numeous attempts by numerous people to explain this to you, I suggest you stop entering into these debates.

UTB

 

[Esablade]

Great stuff. If you could tell me where I said Adkins spent same as Clough and that the wage bill hadn't been slashed, that'd be brill.

Are you having 'a giraffe'?
You can try and squirm and change wordings to suit but you just said Adkins wage bill was there or thereabouts the same as Clough's..when it appears to be quite different...if the £6million figure you believe is correct.

I think the £6m figure is true. I'm sure Clough's wage bill is there or thereabouts also.

 

[alcoblade]

Because unless you're a complete and utter moron, you'll realise that "getting shot" of contracted players on decent salaries isn't as straight forward as copying and pasting a list of players sold from the bbc website.

I think your first line covers the problem here.

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

Are you having 'a giraffe'?
You can try and squirm and change wordings to suit but you just said Adkins wage bill was there or thereabouts the same as Clough's..when it appears to be quite different...if the £6million figure you believe is correct.

Further, what the comparative salary costs don't cover is that Adkins outlay was an ever decreasing number through the season, whereas under Clough it continued to balloon, culminating in him demanding (rumour has it) a further 8 players.

UTB

 

[derryblade]

The fact is both NC and NA wasted a decent wedge on bang average players and the powers that be watched and did nothing about it till it was too late. But they have learned lessons apparently.

 

[Barney]

Are you having 'a giraffe'?
You can try and squirm and change wordings to suit but you just said Adkins wage bill was there or thereabouts the same as Clough's..when it appears to be quite different...if the £6million figure you believe is correct.

There or thereabouts £9m. The figure you quoted.

 

[Esablade]

There or thereabouts £9m. The figure you quoted.

Eh?
It's in Black and white in the accounts Barney

 

[Barney]

Eh?
It's in Black and white in the accounts Barney

I'm not questioning it's accuracy.

You misunderstood and thought I was disagreeing with you on Adkins and Cloughs wage bills, and I wasn't.

 

[Esablade]

I'm not questioning it's accuracy.

You misunderstood and thought I was disagreeing with you on Adkins and Cloughs wage bills, and I wasn't.

 

[wizadry]

I think the £6m figure is true. I'm sure Clough's wage bill is there or thereabouts also. What I don't think is that we ever had 43 senior professionals in the squad as purported by some on here, which was the point I was making.

Cloughs' wage bill is there or thereabouts? There's no two ways about it Barnster, it's in black and white, in the accounts. The only figure that is debatable is the one in the OP news article, which some posters have already pointed out has flaws' in it.

 

[Cyprus Blade]

I think the figure of 43 professionals comes from a January interview with the Star

“Outlining plans to trim the number of professional’s on United’s payroll, Adkins told The Star: “I’m going to be asked all the way through January about comings and goings. That’s quite right because of the time of year. There are 43 professionals here and that’s too many.”

January 2016

 

[Muttley]

43 professionals.......and a good percentage of those were "unprofessionals"

 

[wizadry]

43 professionals.......and a good percentage of those were "unprofessionals"

I think you have used a very polite word for describing some of them.

 

[Seagull]

Wow, if that's correct it certainly raises alarm bells for Adkins utter failure.
Who is in charge of recruitment at yours? Was it down to Adkins or do you have a recruitment team behind the scenes that remove the responsibility for the failings from the managers shoulders somewhat?
Either way a change of approach is clearly needed, hopefully Wilder can be the springboard for that.

 

[BushBlade]

I think the figure of 43 professionals comes from a January interview with the Star

“Outlining plans to trim the number of professional’s on United’s payroll, Adkins told The Star: “I’m going to be asked all the way through January about comings and goings. That’s quite right because of the time of year. There are 43 professionals here and that’s too many.”

January 2016

Did KM say it when he covered for Warnock at that function? I remember him saying there were too many but I don't recall whether or not he gave a number.

 

[PeteBlade]

so whats the difference between wednesday selling a shit player on bigger wages than any of ours are on moron
they didnt sell them on the bbc website
they sold them to other clubs direct

like we can

what are you argueing
again
wednesday can sell players but we cant as as you put ours are wasters
no doubt thats what most owls fans thought of those they sold on

we dont have some special selection of really really unsellable players
just players we dont want , like any other club

tell me in one sentence why ours are more unsaleable than any other clubs players
and because they are shit is not a good answer
thats why the other 91 clubs sell their players

The vast majority of those players on your latest stupid list were free transfers.

Whether the pigs sold players has very little relevance on how easy it is to sell players on contracts and bigger wages.

It's really the most basic and obvious point I'm making, I've no idea why all of a sudden you're unable to grasp it. You grasped it earlier on in the season. Have you had a labotomy since then?

 

[Alfreton14Blade]

I think the figure of 43 professionals comes from a January interview with the Star

“Outlining plans to trim the number of professional’s on United’s payroll, Adkins told The Star: “I’m going to be asked all the way through January about comings and goings. That’s quite right because of the time of year. There are 43 professionals here and that’s too many.”

January 2016

Adkins also said we had the 6th biggest wage bill last season.

What's that phrase? - "economical with the truth"?

 

[wizadry]

Wow, if that's correct it certainly raises alarm bells for Adkins utter failure.
Who is in charge of recruitment at yours? Was it down to Adkins or do you have a recruitment team behind the scenes that remove the responsibility for the failings from the managers shoulders somewhat?
Either way a change of approach is clearly needed, hopefully Wilder can be the springboard for that.

Forget about all this for a minute. Next time we need a favour, please do consider helping us out.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The total salaries paid in 2014/2015 amounted to £8.59m up from £7.48m the previous year. There is no breakdown between players coaching or staff. The average monthly number of football staff was 101 ( 2014 - 98) and other staff 61 (56).

With the information given, it's not really plausible to say Adkins has cut the budget at all. The next accounts are required to be filed by 31st March next year to actually compare the overall wage bills.

 

[alcoblade]

Adkins also said we had the 6th biggest wage bill last season.

What's that phrase? - "economical with the truth"?

Surely Adkins can only forecast the coming season, and our competitors information cannot be known in advance.

He could, or course, have been talking about the season before, but he'd have not needed to, and gained nothing by being economical with the truth about Clough's season.

Some people are really trying too hard to justify binning Adkins. We can all agree he had a really poor year, without attaching bullshit that isn't relevant.

UTB

 

[alcoblade]

The total salaries paid in 2014/2015 amounted to £8.59m up from £7.48m the previous year. There is no breakdown between players coaching or staff. The average monthly number of football staff was 101 ( 2014 - 98) and other staff 61 (56).

With the information given, it's not really plausible to say Adkins has cut the budget at all. The next accounts are required to be filed by 31st March next year to actually compare the overall wage bills.

Good point - and in any case, I think we've established that the problem Adkins had was not easily being able to shed many of the players at the start of last season. The figure that would be a good measure would be the weekly wage bill at the end of the season, extrapolated backwards over the season. Of course we're never going to get this detail.