CW "A Few Surprises in the Retained List"

[Bartleby]

Watching a DVD of the Scunthorpe game last Sunday would just show the usual mistakes that led to their goals. It wouldn't convey the absolute despair among the fans and the feeling of inevitability that we were going to lose again.

You're right it wouldn't, but from seeing Knill's interview, he was being careful how he phrased it but it seems obvious to me that they are well aware of what's gone on and how the fans feel about it - eg the bit where he mentions he still lives in the area and talks to football fans in the pub on a Saturday night.

 

[alcoblade]

He'll know that setting up to counter won't win us promotion though. Too many teams are happy to come away from the Lane with a draw. We need a style of play that will open these teams up when they come and sit deep.

Too right. I cringe at the thought of Sheffield United F C playing counter attacking football against "Bury".

UTB

 

[Grappler]

I don't claim to be a footballing expert (how can I , I support the Blades!), however, if you look at his Northampton side, that finished top of the league on 99 points, I would imagine CW will be thinking that using that "blueprint"., whatever that is, is how he gets us promoted as well.

Don't know enough about Northampton, but have been encouraged by Bergen Blade comments and insights.

We all know we need PACE in the side or we are screwed. We need some players with solid back bone as well.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Hitler breezed into Poland.
Russia was another story altogether.

I do like a good analogy.

 

[Pinchy]

'Brian the Blade' is as entitled to his opinion as you or me.

Yes, any buffoon is entitled to talk utter, unmitigated bollocks.

 

[Pinchy]

I think the one advantage being a Blade will give him is that he has mates who watch us. Assuming they're not total pillocks (and you'd guess the mates he's stayed in touch with all these years won't be) he'll already have a good idea about how we're feeling, who we rate, who we hate.

Sorry, no. I don't want my club managed by Tufty's mates or any of the fans. Upanatem. Gerritintbox. Givimarun.

Management by Bladey Bladey Bollockbrains? Pele Forbid!

Oh, and if he brings back either One-Game Tel or "Fadz" it will be a very bad (and very Bladey) start...

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Yes, any buffoon is entitled to talk utter, unmitigated bollocks.

Yes just as much as those who belittle the achievements of our best 2 managers in the past quarter of a century.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Too right. I cringe at the thought of Sheffield United F C playing counter attacking football against "Bury".

UTB

We have employed a manager who has plied his trade in the non-league and League Two, I believe we may have to temper our expectations.

 

[Pinchy]

Yes just as much as those who belittle the achievements of our best 2 managers in the past quarter of a century.

Bladey Bladey Bollocks. Both Dinosaur Dave and 'Ol Big Nose' took us back to exactly where they found us. Bassett, in particular has left lasting damage. His legacy is a tolerance, indeed a liking, for crude, rudimentary, ugly, unskilled, ale house football that has tainted this club for the best part of thirty years and counting ...astonishingly, some single-celled idiots would have him back....

Ian Porterfield was hounded out for the gross failure of taking us up two divisions and daring to lose a game or two.

Love United; Hate Football.

 

[Harry's Game]

Bladey Bladey Bollocks. Both Dinosaur Dave and 'Ol Big Nose' took us back to exactly where they found us. Bassett, in particular has left lasting damage. His legacy is a tolerance, indeed a liking, for crude, rudimentary, ugly, unskilled, ale house football that has tainted this club for the best part of thirty years and counting ...astonishingly, some single-celled idiots would have him back....

Ian Porterfield was hounded out for the gross failure of taking us up two divisions and daring to lose a game or two.

Love United; Hate Football.

Are genetically thick and offensive or did you have to take a college course?

 

[alcoblade]

We have employed a manager who has plied his trade in the non-league and League Two, I believe we may have to temper our expectations.

If nothing else, the club had delivered me from expectation. I have next to none. However, if we're set on reintroducing the Clough - Blackwell counter attacking style of their last seasons, them Meadowhall might be calling for the first time ever.

UTB

 

[BushBlade]

Sorry, no. I don't want my club managed by Tufty's mates or any of the fans. Upanatem. Gerritintbox. Givimarun.

Management by Bladey Bladey Bollockbrains? Pele Forbid!

Oh, and if he brings back either One-Game Tel or "Fadz" it will be a very bad (and very Bladey) start...

That's not what I was suggesting. It was a response to Grafikhaus' comment that he needs to get the opinion of the fans. I'm merely saying he'll already be aware of that.

 

[Pinchy]

Are genetically thick and offensive or did you have to take a college course?

Your standards are clear and you are entitled to them. You have Bassett and Vinnie Jones. I'll have to make do with John Harris and Tony Currie.

If only I had gone to the Dinosaur Dave Academy of Hoof....

 

[Pinchy]

That's not what I was suggesting. It was a response to Grafikhaus' comment that he needs to get the opinion of the fans. I'm merely saying he'll already be aware of that.

Which fans? The We Hoof Brigade? Bassett's Ale House Army? As I say, Pele Forbid.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

If nothing else, the club had delivered me from expectation. I have next to none. However, if we're set on reintroducing the Clough - Blackwell counter attacking style of their last seasons, them Meadowhall might be calling for the first time ever.

UTB

While I was walking the dog around the park, I was mulling over the developments of the last week. And maybe it was the sunshine, but I suddenly had a revelation. For all our chat about "too big for this league", our belittling of other poxy clubs, who promptly roll up and take three points without much trouble, that perhaps we HAVE reached a tipping point. We have gone and got a manager who has been proving himself in lower leagues, but appears to have the skills and understanding we need. Not someone who is dreaming of previous times at a higher level, not someone with a grandiose impression of themselves, but hopefully a manager that sets his sights on the present, who understands the club (yes, great) but more importantly lives and breathes this end of the Football League. I'm not an optimist as a norm, I was a bit discombobulated when I heard the news, but the more I think about it, the more positive I think it will be for our team.

 

[alcoblade]

While I was walking the dog around the park, I was mulling over the developments of the last week. And maybe it was the sunshine, but I suddenly had a revelation. For all our chat about "too big for this league", our belittling of other poxy clubs, who promptly roll up and take three points without much trouble, that perhaps we HAVE reached a tipping point. We have gone and got a manager who has been proving himself in lower leagues, but appears to have the skills and understanding we need. Not someone who is dreaming of previous times at a higher level, not someone with a grandiose impression of themselves, but hopefully a manager that sets his sights on the present, who understands the club (yes, great) but more importantly lives and breathes this end of the Football League. I'm not an optimist as a norm, I was a bit discombobulated when I heard the news, but the more I think about it, the more positive I think it will be for our team.

Make no mistake, I'm totally behind Wilder and pleased with his appointment. I'm disgusted that we've sacked another manager, and probably need another week of spouting bile about the club to get it out of my system. So;

Fuck off McCabe

UTB

 

[Large Mendonca]

Don't get the hoof v football argument at all. Every team needs it's grafters and has it's playmakers. Even Harris's side had Trevor Hockey in the middle ??

 

[Harry's Game]

Your standards are clear and you are entitled to them. You have Bassett and Vinnie Jones. I'll have to make do with John Harris and Tony Currie.

If only I had gone to the Dinosaur Dave Academy of Hoof....

Yes Dave Bassett. 100 points and 100 goals in the third tier, two consecutive promotions, A Derby double over the pigs, discovered the best out and out centre forward we have had in about 50 years and four consecutive seasons in the the top flight.. All achieved with no money and having his best players sold from him year upon year.

Rubbish though in Pinchy land.

And what the fuck has Vnnie Jones a player who spent less than twelve months here in the seven years Bassett was manager got do with it?

If i was old enough to have seen Harris' team I may well put him at the top of the list.

I'm not so Bassett is head and shoulders above any other manager we have had since 1980. Warnock a distant second. Porterfield an even further back thrird.

 

[Blade82]

Your standards are clear and you are entitled to them. You have Bassett and Vinnie Jones. I'll have to make do with John Harris and Tony Currie.

If only I had gone to the Dinosaur Dave Academy of Hoof....

Haha missed you pinchy!

Where have you been all season supporting nice football nige and defending McCabe for trying to change the clubs style from the Bassett and warnock era!?

Now we have a blade in charge you've surfaced again to have a pop.

You and your hoof obsession, I bet you thought the slick sexy football of Benitez would save the toon and relegate big fat dinosaur sam didn't you ?

Never saw you praise Neil for keeping Rotherham up against the odds either.

Missed your thoughts on Leicester showing how the odds can be upset with 'direct' football too? Premier League hoofball champions eh! There's hope for us all yet ;-)

Welcome back me owd up n at em get some meat on studs mucker

 

[Pinchy]

Don't get the hoof v football argument at all. Every team needs it's grafters and has it's playmakers. Even Harris's side had Trevor Hockey in the middle ??

There is no argument. Football won it hands down post-Wimbledon. The dark shadow of Hoof is now cast solely over S2...

 

[Blade82]

There is no argument. Football won it hands down post-Wimbledon. The dark shadow of Hoof is now cast solely over S2...

You not seen Leicester win the league then?

Hoof at its best

 

[Cyprus Blade]

While I was walking the dog around the park, I was mulling over the developments of the last week.

Was it Endcliffe Park, and were there any wild geese?

 

[alcoblade]

There is no argument. Football won it hands down post-Wimbledon. The dark shadow of Hoof is now cast solely over S2...

Why do you say that Pinchy? We haven't hoofed it for years, and I don't believe Wilders teams are particularly direct?

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

You not seen Leicester win the league then?

Hoof at its best

Ah yes. Mahrez the arch-hoofer. Leicester play high-tempo pass and move with a purpose. I must have missed the bit where the keeper takes the ball right up to the half-way line, then launches it hard, high and long in the general direction of the opposition goal, hoping some giant lumps will get a touch or two whilst the midfielders are rubbing Ibuprofen on their necks...

Don't get carried away by Leicester by the way. Next season will be After the Lord Mayors Show. Meanwhile proper football will inevitably and naturally dominate the world stage, because it's manifestly the best way to play the game, as history has conclusively demonstrated.

Do you Hoofers ever stop to think why the elite teams don't hoof it? They could and would if they thought it the right way. When top managers and players speak of playing game the right way, not one of them, not a single one, has Dinosaur Dave in mind.

 

[Pinchy]

Why do you say that Pinchy? We haven't hoofed it for years, and I don't believe Wilders teams are particularly direct?

UTB

Because people like Harry's Game continue to delude themselves, mate. Because I hear the Gerritforrard Intelligentsia all around me once a fortnight...

 

[Kev Gee]

Your crackers you Pinchy haha.
Always make me laugh with your obsession over hoof.

Personally I couldnt give a fuck how we play as long as we get out of this damn league...

Fwiw the Cobblers fans say he doesnt play hoof at all.

But dont let that cloud things for you pal.

 

[Blade82]

Ah yes. Mahrez the arch-hoofer. Leicester play high-tempo pass and move with a purpose. I must have missed the bit where the keeper takes the ball right up to the half-way line, then launches it hard, high and long in the general direction of the opposition goal, hoping some giant lumps will get a touch or two whilst the midfielders are rubbing Ibuprofen on their necks...

Don't get carried away by Leicester by the way. Next season will be After the Lord Mayors Show. Meanwhile proper football will inevitably and naturally dominate the world stage, because it's manifestly the best way to play the game, as history has conclusively demonstrated.

Do you Hoofers ever stop to think why the elite teams don't hoof it? They could and would if they thought it the right way. When top managers and players speak of playing game the right way, not one of them, not a single one, has Dinosaur Dave in mind.

They play direct football with a couple of ugly nasty fighters in there
and a non league gem up top to chase the ball and they won the league. Brilliant.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

While I was walking the dog around the park, I was mulling over the developments of the last week. And maybe it was the sunshine, but I suddenly had a revelation. For all our chat about "too big for this league", our belittling of other poxy clubs, who promptly roll up and take three points without much trouble, that perhaps we HAVE reached a tipping point. We have gone and got a manager who has been proving himself in lower leagues, but appears to have the skills and understanding we need. Not someone who is dreaming of previous times at a higher level, not someone with a grandiose impression of themselves, but hopefully a manager that sets his sights on the present, who understands the club (yes, great) but more importantly lives and breathes this end of the Football League. I'm not an optimist as a norm, I was a bit discombobulated when I heard the news, but the more I think about it, the more positive I think it will be for our team.

Would we have gone for Wilder he wasn't a sheffield lad , blade and worn the shirt . The answer I think is no .

McCabe I feel has made the right decision , only because he is a lower league manager ( with experience ) and we are a lower league club.

Going for ex out of work championship managers , who can do the business in the championship for us , just does not work . For one main reason we are in league 1 .

Adkins and Clough I feel underestimated league 1 and perhaps like some of us , looked down with a turned up nose , at the Bury , Burton , Gillingham of this world , which came across to the players , that they only had to turn up to win football matches. . We treated other clubs with contempt and that's why we got turned over so many times in the last two seasons.

Wilder should , and if any sense , will take no team who we play for granted , and instill this into the players mental philosophy .

We have reached the bottom of the barrel as a club . We can either get relegated , administration or go full out for promotion.

UTB.

 

[Pinchy]

Would we have gone for Wilder he wasn't a sheffield lad , blade and worn the shirt . The answer I think is no .

McCabe I feel has made the right decision , only because he is a lower league manager ( with experience ) and we are a lower league club.

Going for ex out of work championship managers , who can do the business in the championship for us , just does not work . For one main reason we are in league 1 .

Adkins and Clough I feel underestimated league 1 and perhaps like some of us , looked down with a turned up nose , at the Bury , Burton , Gillingham of this world , which came across to the players , that they only had to turn up to win football matches. . We treated other clubs with contempt and that's why we got turned over so many times in the last two seasons.

Wilder should , and if any sense , will take no team who we play for granted , and instill this into the players mental philosophy .

We have reached the bottom of the barrel as a club . We can either get relegated , administration or go full out for promotion.

UTB.

I look it this differently. Too many managers give it the 'it'll be a tough game against Bury/Rochdale/insert alternative nonentity" thing. I don't want to hear how dangerous some fourth division striker is. Do your perpetration by all means, Assess the strengths and weaknesses of the opposition by all means. Then send your team out to show how much better they are, not in fear and trembling of fucking Scunthorpe.

The fans are as bad. How often did I read how we were going to get 'battered' by Aston Villa/QPR/Soton/Spurs? Luckily the much maligned Mr. Clough didn't agree...

 

[BushBlade]

Which fans? The We Hoof Brigade? Bassett's Ale House Army? As I say, Pele Forbid.

The vocal ones that McCabe panders to and will get him the sack if he upsets them.