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I hope he doesn't for the simple reason that at the moment there is no one better out there.
I am not convinced he can win us promotion but we won't be in danger of relegation any time soon like we would have been under Weir or if (God forbid) Morgs ever got the reigns full time.
very despondent on R/S tonight re no planning of signings pre window closure. my guess is they promised him a lot and delivered nothing. as per usual
Best signings we made that may have ended up at our rivals in this League were probably Alcock, Wallace and Davies. I also reckon Bristol spent about the same amount of money on their squad as we got as a transfer fee for Maguire.
JCR as good as he has been for us is very much a journeyman and I think he just signs for any club that gives him a call.
None of our signings have made others clubs lose any sleep that is for sure.
Even if it takes 10 years ehCan only speculate as to why we didn't get the players he wanted and what he was promised. However, to answer your question, no I don't think he'll walk away.
Like his father (rip sir Brian) he's a man of principles and Nigel certainly likes to stick around and see the job through. He's the best thing to happen to our club, he's certainly no mug and I expect him to see the job to promotion through in full
Those champions league titles are a bastard to winEven if it takes 10 years eh
In one sentence you say our scouting network can't be blamed and shouldn't be needed,yet in another sentence you say we've taken released players from league one,or UNKNOWN players from Scotland and Holland.Now correct me if i'm wrong but surely this is where the scouting network should come into play and propably has done.If we're not going to get proven as you put it,then the scouts should be doing their jobs properly,so that we can buy players that are going to suit how we play,if not,then what is the point of them being here.The scouting system cannot be blamed, as it shouldn't be required. What we as a 'financial powerhouse' (lol) in the division should have done is just sign PROVEN players at this level. How many of Bristol City's signings had you heard of? I imagine all of them, certainly all the starting players. We know them because they have performed well at this level or above.
You didn't need to be a scout to recognise Freeman, Little, Wilbraham, Agard etc were good signings as they have been good performers for a while. Basically we've taken players released by other league 1 clubs or from Holland/Scotland where they are complete unknown quantities. To get out of the championship you need an excellent scouting network to find hidden gems, but the best way to get out of league 1 is by simply buying good league 1 players. We saw it with wolves last year too.
In one sentence you say our scouting network can't be blamed and shouldn't be needed,yet in another sentence you say we've taken released players from league one,or UNKNOWN players from Scotland and Holland.Now correct me if i'm wrong but surely this is where the scouting network should come into play and propably has done.If we're not going to get proven as you put it,then the scouts should be doing their jobs properly,so that we can buy players that are going to suit how we play,if not,then what is the point of them being here.
It's either one or the other,they either do their jobs properly and scout the players required,or if they can't be blamed then there is no need for them to be here in the first place,not both blader .
I take the points made mate,but then i get on to mine.We aren't making any signings where we don't need any scouts,so this means in actual fact that our scouts are needed while ever we don't sign the players you refer too and they can also be made culpable for some of the signings we have made.It would be great to do what you said regarding the signings of players where scouts aren't needed but we're Sheff Utd and things never turn out that easy.No my point is, we shouldn't be signing unknown quantities. All of Bristol city's signings were known and proven, hence the redundancy of their scouting network. As I say, did you know that Agard was a good player? And are you a professional scout? No, they've bought proven quality, so my point is we should be signing players where no scouting would be needed at all.
Thanks for that Cyprus Blade ,it was a good read.The only thing i would say is that i can't ever see us having scouts in nearly all of them countries while ever iv'e got an hole in my arseAn interesting perspective on scouting from the Arsenal head coach - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/29326-arsenals-scouting-network-revealed
Can I ask where this idea that Clough hasn't been given what he's asked for by the board has arrisen from?
I've not seen anything that would back up such a claim, in fact local reports seem to think he has total say on transfers.
Can I ask where this idea that Clough hasn't been given what he's asked for by the board has arrisen from?
I've not seen anything that would back up such a claim, in fact local reports seem to think he has total say on transfers.
I'll take that as a no then.Mainly because we respect him as a manager and are struggling to believe he would willingly sign the heap of shite that he has!
I have to disagree with your assessment of Simon clough. When derby reached the play off final it contained much if Nigel's team, this included Forsyth, keogh, Buxton, Bryson, Martin, Russell, ward and eustace. Most if not all will have been scouted and would walk into our team. Oh, and don't forget who found the beard !I don't disagree with you vis a vis the relative quality of Bristol's signings and ours. And yes there are top division one players out there - several of whom moved in the summer. Your post does though seem to suggest that a good scouting set-up isn't necessary in League One. That is what I am questioning.
The difference between us and Bristol seems to be that Bristol identified the right targets (its where the scouts come in) and had the infrastructure and resources there in place to make sure they landed them. Our scouts seemingly only had bus passes to Walsall, the "bargain" basement store at Blackpool, plus a red rover ticket for Scotland. Targets we identified we didn't land - be that because of lack of funds or incompetence in the bidding team (none of us really know what the transfer allocation was/is and whether it has been used up). It was a similar scenario at Derby with Simon Clough as head scout.
He might have been a good scout in the conference and division 2 level but it seems to me he is out of his depth at this level ( and size of club) looking at his performance at Derby and here to date . And I do wonder how nobody noticed that Higdon (setting aside talent level/suitability) looks like he has to shift about two stones to reach target weight ( Evans is more likely to be match fit before him).
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