Outgoing? Coulibaly out on loan

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Been told he’s still at United training whilst his visa gets sorted. AIK are in Marbella at a training camp and he doesn’t have a Schengen visa so can’t join them there.
 
Hamandcheese said:
New contract and 300k sale is best case scenario
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But you normally have to pay off a player’s contract (or at least a substantial proportion of it) if you sell them. So if we hypothetically gave him a two year contract on £5k a year and then sold him for £300k, we’d be worse off than if we’d just released him at the end of his contract.
 
Bath Blade said:
But you normally have to pay off a player’s contract (or at least a substantial proportion of it) if you sell them. So if we hypothetically gave him a two year contract on £5k a year and then sold him for £300k, we’d be worse off than if we’d just released him at the end of his contract.
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Are you sure about that?
 
Bath Blade said:
But you normally have to pay off a player’s contract (or at least a substantial proportion of it) if you sell them. So if we hypothetically gave him a two year contract on £5k a year and then sold him for £300k, we’d be worse off than if we’d just released him at the end of his contract.
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If the player wants to go (and he does) then i imagine that's worked out between his agent and the club and it wont be the full amount?
 
Bath Blade said:
But you normally have to pay off a player’s contract (or at least a substantial proportion of it) if you sell them. So if we hypothetically gave him a two year contract on £5k a year and then sold him for £300k, we’d be worse off than if we’d just released him at the end of his contract.
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This only happens to players that are paid way WAY more than the buying club is willing to pay and the selling club will subsidise such a contract. This is why Maguire isn't at West Ham, because Man U refused to pay the difference.

It's not a common scenario.
 
Bath Blade said:
It was in the secret footballer book, and I’ve heard Kieran Maguire mention it before as well.
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It doesn’t seem to make sense. That’s why players stay for money. Using this logic, players would happily move anywhere because they bank all the previously agreed contract, however short is has run for, and whatever the drop in wages. I suspect there’s some misinterpretation going on here.

If you want to force a move, or terminate a contract, that’s a different story. You have to honour their contract.
 
Tarqs said:
This only happens to players that are paid way WAY more than the buying club is willing to pay and the selling club will subsidise such a contract. This is why Maguire isn't at West Ham, because Man U refused to pay the difference.

It's not a common scenario.
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This.
 
Ever heard jan aage talk about the day him
And Deane were sold?

He told Charles green he didn’t want to go, but if he wanted him gone he would need to pay his contract up, which Utd did.

I thought this was standard unless a player waived it, either to make a move happen (normally compensated in signing on fee from new club) or by putting in a transfer request
 
Bath Blade said:
It was in the secret footballer book, and I’ve heard Kieran Maguire mention it before as well.
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Not quite right I don't think, the paying up bit usually relates to any signing-on fee and bonuses which are usually spread over the length of a contract. Not so much to do with wages they're foregoing upon a transfer (unless there's a big disparity as pointed out by other posters). As JosteinFlo mentions they usually waive the right to any unpaid fees/bonuses if they seek a transfer themselves.
 
JosteinFlo said:
Ever heard jan aage talk about the day him
And Deane were sold?

He told Charles green he didn’t want to go, but if he wanted him gone he would need to pay his contract up, which Utd did.

I thought this was standard unless a player waived it, either to make a move happen (normally compensated in signing on fee from new club) or by putting in a transfer request
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I think many players hide behind the “I didn’t want to leave” whilst signing an even fatter contract with a new club.
 
JosteinFlo said:
Ever heard jan aage talk about the day him
And Deane were sold?

He told Charles green he didn’t want to go, but if he wanted him gone he would need to pay his contract up, which Utd did.

I thought this was standard unless a player waived it, either to make a move happen (normally compensated in signing on fee from new club) or by putting in a transfer request
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I think players hide behind the “I didn’t want to leave” whilst signing an even fatter contract with a new club.

I’m sure it sometimes happens, but doubt it’s very often at all, given the size of players wages, especially these days.
 

Can't wait until we call him and Benie " like new signings" when we are stuck with them!
 
Still mixed bag from him. Still difficult to see the 'old' Coulibaly - the player that was linked with big European clubs a few years ago.
Can show some glimpses of smartness and neat play (look at this touch/assist for 1-0 : ). And as I remember him, versatile and all-round in terms of abilities. This is mixed with some shocking actions that just scream 'lacking match fitness/tempo/ confidence etc.)'...

All of this is confusing for AIK fans - no one knows where to put him. Also seem to correspond with the managers view - he gets selected as a left-winger due to the team lacking competition there, which is a position I really dont see natural to him... However, recently managed to put his shifts in but does not stick out (so far) - in a league ranked 24th in Europe...
He COULD be useful in the Championship if given time, but I think its time for him to move on, honestly. Start over fresh in Scandinavia where he would be given time to get fit and his confidence back.
 
Another United World gem.
Zero output from him for plenty of outlay.
 
Established Premier League clubs will have 20+ players like this on their books. Ones they've picked up late teens on the off chance they develop. The only need 1 to be a top player and 3 or 4 to be decent Premier League ones and they've made all their money back.

Whereas clubs like us can take the odd punt, after the Prem teams and their scouting have had thier pics. We had one with N'Diaye so we can count ourselves extremely lucky.
 
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