Zak Brunt

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Wilder played Brooks 30+ times in the Championship as a 20 year old. He started him in a derby at Hillsborough. And let's not rewrite history - Brooks was far from finished article when we had him (he arguably still isn't). He brought back Ramsdale and signed Brewster/Bogle etc. It's not like Wilder won't play/sign youngsters if he thinks they are ready. Maybe these kids just aren't ready. Some of them never will be.

They wont be ready if you dont step them up and find out IMO. Its only recently with RND that one of our players has even got a good loan. I think we could have expected our youth to get more senior game time with us because sometimes players just take their chance.
 

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We probably need some bad news about him now, maybe a granny kidney punch or something as he's coming across a bit too well for my liking.
Loved him and his team-mates winding up the Wendies. I'm hoping the club don't take a dim view of it.
 
Brunt played for the same grassroots junior team that my son currently plays for on Sundays and he's been very willing to help out with fundraising for them as well. Nice kid by all accounts.

When he was on the bench for the Blades before lockdown one of the officials at the club told us that he won the u16's league and cup double with them before he went to Matlock, apparently they wanted him to sign a contract sooner but he wanted to stay and complete the season with his pals.

We probably need some bad news about him now, maybe a granny kidney punch or something as he's coming across a bit too well for my liking.
Don't worry give it a few years he will revving away from a hotel in his new lamborghini
 
Come on pal. Slater rarely starts in League 1 and Dewhurst didn't get one start in League 2.

Exactly this. This isn't FIFA this is real life... These guys have to be physically ready if nothing else. We've seen how the PL has got more athletic since lockdown. Just watching Rice and Philips never stop running, wanting, passing the ball last night for England showed what we've lacked all season...

As I said earlier, I'm fascinated by the concerted PR campaign of our media team to draw attention to these youth players.

If we don't play any of them, we know it was just an orchestrated piece of propaganda to distract from the senior team shitting the bed.

If a few of them get game time, it's going to be interesting to see how they do. Will Brunt contribute more than Lundstram for example or will he get outmuscled a la Norwood?
 
Don't quite get the negative connotations about throwing the off kid in.

Not exactly going to scar them for life if we lose the odd one. We've been doing a lot of that.

Plus, in Brunt's case, can't be doing him the power of good seeing himself behind the current version of Lunny, passing backwards for 90 minutes...
 
Don't quite get the negative connotations about throwing the off kid in.

Not exactly going to scar them for life if we lose the odd one. We've been doing a lot of that.

Plus, in Brunt's case, can't be doing him the power of good seeing himself behind the current version of Lunny, passing backwards for 90 minutes...
I can see both sides of the argument to be honest. It is obviously a big step up and the facts suggests that most kids won't make it. However, I agree that now is the perfect time to play them. All we have left are some dead rubber games and to me we have nothing to gain by playing players who won't be here next year. We used to use this time of the season to blood academy players. I remember Jags and Tonge playing well to at least give us something to look forwards to. Obviously, we saw Colin Cryan, Jonathan Forte and Tyrone Thompson as well but we didn't lose anything by blooding them.
 
It's simple, Heckingbottoms one job between now and the end of the season is to play players who will be part of the first team next season.

None of us will mind us losing with Brewster and some of the kids in...we will with players who dont want to be here or wont be here.

We have to build for next season and decide which 4 of the 6 strikers at the club will be playing next year and see if any of the academy midfield lads are good enough.
 
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My mates an Oxford fan and it was one of his gripes as well, overlook the acadamy to buy in from elsewhere.

Fair enough, it's what managers do but, If we take Ramsdale, Brewster & Bogle as an example, would we have been any better or worse off with Dewhurst, Hackford & Slater?

Ramsdale aside to some extent, none proven at this level. Hind sight is wonderful and I'm not naive, but still, over £40m saved.
The answer to the question on the academy players is yes we would be worse off. Dewhurst is miles from being a prem keeper he’s yet to establish himself a league level on loan he’s got the tools but he’s not a first team keeper yet. Bogle looks to have a truly rare skill set that we’ve not had since the two kyles and slater was a makeshift right back at best in pre season he’ll play his career at centremid. Hackford and Brewster I mean probably wouldn’t have made a difference given we create very very little but Hackford’s maximum upside is to be where Brewster is at 20 but it’s unlikely.

On brooks I think it’s nuanced because he learned incredibly quickly I remember watching him against Norwich at the lane and get bullied all over the park for the first twenty minutes and then something clicked in his head and when they got tight to him he flicked it round them and used his pace and started to chase them real problems. He adapted to men’s football very quickly and that’s mental as opposed to physical so you can’t put a timescale on it. It either happens for a player or it doesn’t he probably started the summer as a very talent youngster with very little experience and left as player who knew how to compensate for his weaknesses which he does have.
 
Will Brunt contribute more than Lundstram for example or will he get outmuscled a la Norwood?
West Ham away we were 2-0 down and they put the board up for 5 mins extra. I thought why not bring Frankie Maguire on as we've lost anyway. 5 mins later, Lunny couldn't be arsed to track Fredericks and he scored. That was my most disillusioned point of a bad season.
 
As I said earlier, I'm fascinated by the concerted PR campaign of our media team to draw attention to these youth players.

If we don't play any of them, we know it was just an orchestrated piece of propaganda to distract from the senior team shitting the bed.

I think it's more the fact that there's not much to cheer about with the senior team at the moment, so they're highlighting the success of the youth team instead. Posting pictures of McBurnie or Lundstram is only going to attract online abuse from some knuckleheads. There's not always an agenda behind everything...
 

I do agree that it's pointless playing players who are unlikely to be here next season. Lundstrum being one example.
I would also be giving Brewster and MCB as much game time as a pairing as possible, as they will likely be our first choice strikers.
 
West Ham away we were 2-0 down and they put the board up for 5 mins extra. I thought why not bring Frankie Maguire on as we've lost anyway. 5 mins later, Lunny couldn't be arsed to track Fredericks and he scored. That was my most disillusioned point of a bad season.

That's been my point since Christmas time.

Surely there's a couple of youth players who can run around giving it full beans - chasing everything, pressing and kicking anything above ankle height. Even if they have the technical ability of Burke - at least they'd give us energy...

I can only assume that they're not physically ready.

Like I say Hecky will know exactly where they're at.

In Hecky we Trust! (Too soon?)
 
Don't quite get the negative connotations about throwing the off kid in.

Not exactly going to scar them for life if we lose the odd one. We've been doing a lot of that.

Plus, in Brunt's case, can't be doing him the power of good seeing himself behind the current version of Lunny, passing backwards for 90 minutes...
I don't really agree with the concept, and language, of 'throwing the odd kid in. A first team place in a professional side, especially a Premier league side, is like gold, platinum and diamond dust sprinkled on Scarlet Johansen's honey glazed knockers for 99.9999% of anyone who aspires to get somewhere in the game. It shouldn't be achieved on a whim. You should have to fucking graft your fucking arse off, overachieve at every single level you play at, train, train, train, nag every single professional and every single coach for the slightest titbit of info and advice, watch, learn, eat well, sleep well, live well and earn your chance.
You don't get chucked in. You force your way in.
 
I don't really agree with the concept, and language, of 'throwing the odd kid in. A first team place in a professional side, especially a Premier league side, is like gold, platinum and diamond dust sprinkled on Scarlet Johansen's honey glazed knockers for 99.9999% of anyone who aspires to get somewhere in the game. It shouldn't be achieved on a whim. You should have to fucking graft your fucking arse off, overachieve at every single level you play at, train, train, train, nag every single professional and every single coach for the slightest titbit of info and advice, watch, learn, eat well, sleep well, live well and earn your chance.
You don't get chucked in. You force your way in.
You're right pal.
But when one of the first team doesn't want to be here next season and doesn't appear to be grafting too hard, it's frustrating for the fans when we can watch the U23s and U18s doing just that.
 
I don't really agree with the concept, and language, of 'throwing the odd kid in. A first team place in a professional side, especially a Premier league side, is like gold, platinum and diamond dust sprinkled on Scarlet Johansen's honey glazed knockers for 99.9999% of anyone who aspires to get somewhere in the game. It shouldn't be achieved on a whim. You should have to fucking graft your fucking arse off, overachieve at every single level you play at, train, train, train, nag every single professional and every single coach for the slightest titbit of info and advice, watch, learn, eat well, sleep well, live well and earn your chance.
You don't get chucked in. You force your way in.

Sadly this season John Lundstram, Jack Robinson, Max Lowe are the antipode of what you highlight above...
 
Sadly this season John Lundstram, Jack Robinson, Max Lowe are the antipode of what you highlight above...
Regardless of what they’re like now, all of those had to go through a similar process of forcing their way into professional football from the academy system.

As you’ve said yourself, Hecky is best placed to know which, if any, of them is ready this season. They seem to be hardworking, dedicated young players and if they do get game time, I’ll be convinced it’s because they’ve earned it. If they don’t, I’ll accept the judgement of a bloke who knows more about developing youth players than I ever will.
 
I don't really agree with the concept, and language, of 'throwing the odd kid in. A first team place in a professional side, especially a Premier league side, is like gold, platinum and diamond dust sprinkled on Scarlet Johansen's honey glazed knockers for 99.9999% of anyone who aspires to get somewhere in the game. It shouldn't be achieved on a whim. You should have to fucking graft your fucking arse off, overachieve at every single level you play at, train, train, train, nag every single professional and every single coach for the slightest titbit of info and advice, watch, learn, eat well, sleep well, live well and earn your chance.
You don't get chucked in. You force your way in.
I'm not suggesting free shirts for anyone who wants them even if they don't merit it.

The U23s are going to win their league.

Brunt is one of the better players.

He doesn't really have much scope to go beyond what he is achieving without being given more opportunity.

Meanwhile Lundstram has stopped doing all those things and won't be here next year.

At some point young players need a chance. Some will take it, some won't. Why not find out now? Give him that opportunity. It might save us a signing. Lunny us a good example of that himself. We all thought 'get tid' the. He surprised us.

Perfect example - Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Everton played him a lot and he learned from that experience. Now he's one of the top 5 strikers in the country.
 
Here's a little feel-good story amidst the deluge of shit.
Hats off to Zak Brunt for this gesture.



What a lovely graphic on the original Twitter post...sure would be a shame if lots of people on here started following that account (cough cough)....clearly it's run by an attractive fellow...with a great sense of humour.
 
I'm not suggesting free shirts for anyone who wants them.

The U23s are going to win their league.

Brunt is one of the better players.

He doesn't really have much scope to go beyond what he is achieving.

Meanwhile Lundstram gas stopped doing all those things and won't be here next year.

At some point young players need a chance. Some will take it, some won't. Why not find out now?

Perfect example - Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Everton played him a lot and he learned from that experience. Now he's one of the top 5 strikers in the country.
That's fair. I'm not opposed to chances for young players per se. Its the kind of throwaway language used (and I'm sure you didn't mean it in that way). A 1st team place is the holy grail and needs to be valued as such.
 
During a really bad Injury spell for Sheffield FC, John Lundstram DM'd the club, referred to himself as 'Lord' and attached 43 laughing & dollar emojis.

You utter troll.




It was only 41 emojis
 
Matlock is easily my most-visited non league ground with United. Warnock used to take us there every pre-season. The view of the hill and castle from inside the ground is unique.

One of the trips there was a drunken Argentinian bloke with a River Plate shirt on. Couldn’t speak a word of English so no idea what his story was but I ended up swapping my Blades shirt for his River shirt, which I later learned was a snide 🤣
 
Fair enough, it's what managers do but, If we take Ramsdale, Brewster & Bogle as an example, would we have been any better or worse off with Dewhurst, Hackford & Slater?
This is a mad post. I mean, in all seriousness, given how shite we've been, the answer is probably "yes we would've been worse off but maybe not by much". However, are you seriously suggesting these players are anywhere close to being at the same level?
 
This is a mad post. I mean, in all seriousness, given how shite we've been, the answer is probably "yes we would've been worse off but maybe not by much". However, are you seriously suggesting these players are anywhere close to being at the same level?
Of course I'm not, I'm not an idiot. It's just an alternative view point looking back.
 
What a lovely graphic on the original Twitter post...sure would be a shame if lots of people on here started following that account (cough cough)....clearly it's run by an attractive fellow...with a great sense of humour.

Love your work, but I've done the Twitter thing. I'd rather follow a burning cart over a cliff than go back there (Twitter, not you personally)
 

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