CONFIRMED Zach Giggs

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Irrespective of the ‘debate about ‘papa’ Giggs there’s a likelihood that Manure didn’t keep the bairn on because of the negative publicity he would attract as / when / if he progressed to(wards) 1st team
That could / would also allow Giggs Jnr to pursue a career without the same level of scrutiny / publicity / baggage

Equally he might not be very good - thinks Cofie; Notman; Twiss ….

 

[JohnDenver]

thinks Cofie; Notman; Twiss ….

Please, there are children reading this…

 

[coaxingstar71]

Well hopefully he'll become the next Tonge or Jagielka as those were picked up after being rejected by bigger clubs. There are many examples of good players that have initially suffered some rejection and then gone on to have good careers. Norwood started on Man Utd's books.

 

[Kev Gee]

GLTTL!
There's no reason why he can't go on to have a good career if he listens and takes on his coaching advice.

We are a great choice for players looking to have a career. Even if he moves on to another club.
Players who have come through our academy (off top of head) in last 10 years. And gone on to have a decent level career.b(top 4 leagues)
Sharp
Naughton
Walker
Reed
Brookes
Ndiaye
Whitehouse
Whiteman
Ramsdale
Forte
Macfadzen
Maguire
Liban Abdi


Quite impressive when you think about it.

 

[Balham Blade]

Irrespective of the ‘debate about ‘papa’ Giggs there’s a likelihood that Manure didn’t keep the bairn on because of the negative publicity he would attract as / when / if he progressed to(wards) 1st team
That could / would also allow Giggs Jnr to pursue a career without the same level of scrutiny / publicity / baggage

Equally he might not be very good - thinks Cofie; Notman; Twiss ….

I can almost categorically state that it's nearly 100% the latter and very little of the former. Almost none of the players in Newton Heath's academy will make it into their first team, there's no disgrace in not making it at the elite level and we've a history of picking up those not quite good enough and turning them into decent professionals. 20 years ago, Michael Tonge and Phil Jagielka came from Man U; more recently David Brooks came from City.

The players in our team who came through the English system almost entirely came through academies at Cat 1. The notable exceptions are Jack O'Connell who joined Blackburn at 16; George Baldock who came through the cat 3 academy at MK Dons and Billy Sharp who came through at United before the EPPP system recategorised the academies.

Wes Foderingham: Fulham (1)
Adam Davies: Everton (1)
George Baldock: MK Dons (3)
Chris Basham: Newcastle United (1)
John Egan: Sunderland (1)
Jack Robinson: Liverpool (1)
Jack O'Connell: REYMCA United (non-cat) to U16 then Blackburn (1)
Ciaran Clark: Aston Villa (1)
Max Lowe: Derby County (1)
Jayden Bogle: Reading (1) to U14 then Swindon (3) for U15 then Derby (1)
Oli Norwood: Manchester United (1)
Ben Osborn: Forest (1)
Oli McBurnie: Leeds (1) to U14 then Bradford (3)
Rhian Brewster: Chelsea (1) to U14 then Liverpool (1)
Billy Sharp*: United (2)

 

[Rochdaleblade]

I can almost categorically state that it's nearly 100% the latter and very little of the former. Almost none of the players in Newton Heath's academy will make it into their first team, there's no disgrace in not making it at the elite level and we've a history of picking up those not quite good enough and turning them into decent professionals. 20 years ago, Michael Tonge and Phil Jagielka came from Man U; more recently David Brooks came from City.

The players in our team who came through the English system almost entirely came through academies at Cat 1. The notable exceptions are Jack O'Connell who joined Blackburn at 16; George Baldock who came through the cat 3 academy at MK Dons and Billy Sharp who came through at United before the EPPP system recategorised the academies.

Wes Foderingham: Fulham (1)
Adam Davies: Everton (1)
George Baldock: MK Dons (3)
Chris Basham: Newcastle United (1)
John Egan: Sunderland (1)
Jack Robinson: Liverpool (1)
Jack O'Connell: REYMCA United (non-cat) to U16 then Blackburn (1)
Ciaran Clark: Aston Villa (1)
Max Lowe: Derby County (1)
Jayden Bogle: Reading (1) to U14 then Swindon (3) for U15 then Derby (1)
Oli Norwood: Manchester United (1)
Ben Osborn: Forest (1)
Oli McBurnie: Leeds (1) to U14 then Bradford (3)
Rhian Brewster: Chelsea (1) to U14 then Liverpool (1)
Billy Sharp*: United (2)

Think jags came from Everton. Also don't forget Monty, who came from Leeds, where he chose to model his game on David Batty, rather than say Gordon Strachan.

 

[Balham Blade]

Think jags came from Everton. Also don't forget Monty, who came from Leeds, where he chose to model his game on David Batty, rather than say Gordon Strachan.

You're right, I'm confusing myself because Jagielka is a Man U fan, I think, or at least is a Mancunian. He also joined was also over 25 years ago so he's probably not the best example anyway

 

[bongleblade]

To add a bit of balance here - whilst acknowledging Zach should be judged by Zach (not his dad) - Zach's dad has not as yet been convicted of any of the alleged offenses made against him. Whilst these allegations are disturbing, Ryan Giggs is yet to be found guilty of them. Additional to this fact, Ryan has also been an activist in support of Unicef - so the guy does have some humanity.

and there's high profile football players have great PR teams - water is wet!