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What would your first choice starting 11 and formation be this season? providing we have no injuries (hopefully one day this may happen).

Here's mine...

--------------------Howard---------------------
Brayford----Kennedy----Edgar----Harris
-----------Coutts---------J Wallace----------
JCR---------------Baxter---------------Done
---------------------Sharp-----------------------

SUBS - Long, Collins, Alcock, Reed, Scoug, Adams, Sammon
 



--------------------Howard---------------------
Brayford----Kennedy----Edgar----Harris
-----------Coutts---------J. Wallace---------
Done------------Baxter---------------Adams
-------------------Sharp------------------------
 
------------Somebodyelse
Brayford Basham Collins Harris
-----------Coutts-----Wallace
------------------Baxter
JCR---------------------Done
------------------Sharp

Subs: Long, Freeman, Edgar, Reed, Flynn, Adams, Sammon
 
I dunno...who hasn't had a chance yet?
 
I'd love to see 3-5-2 as well but only if we had the players for it, and we don't. The two flank players need to be wingers more than full backs and they need to be good players with pace. Flynn and Woolford would be our best options in those positions and neither are quick or enough of an attacking threat. The only player I'd be comfortable with in a back three is Basham on the right side of it. Collins may be OK in the middle but ideally you'd have more of an organiser.
 
It's interesting to see people going back to only playing 1 striker.. I could have sworn that was a major complaint when Clough was around ;)

However, from our current squad I would go with;

Howard
Brayford - Collins - Edgar - Freeman

Flynn - Baxter - Basham - Adams

Sharp - Done

or a 433 by replacing Flynn with Coutts, and having Done, Sharp and Adams as the front 3.
 
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The mentality and approach was always more of a problem than the formation under Clough.
 
Kelly

Bradshaw Murphy Morgan Nilsen

Ward Whitehouse McCall Ifill

Deane Agana

Subs: Tracey, Hodgson, Cowans, Fjortoft
 
The mentality and approach was always more of a problem than the formation under Clough.

I know that, it's not what a lot of supporters said at the time though.. Everyone was acting like anything but 442 was stupid.
 
Are some people suggesting we play a three at the back formation with Collins, Edgar and Mceverly in any of those roles??

I mean really????

Like in the real world??????
 
I'd love to see 3-5-2 as well but only if we had the players for it, and we don't. The two flank players need to be wingers more than full backs and they need to be good players with pace. Flynn and Woolford would be our best options in those positions and neither are quick or enough of an attacking threat. The only player I'd be comfortable with in a back three is Basham on the right side of it. Collins may be OK in the middle but ideally you'd have more of an organiser.

I disagree I think the 2 wing backs I have in Brayford and Harris are good enough if not better attacking than defending, I also agree that we need 2 up top
 



Are some people suggesting we play a three at the back formation with Collins, Edgar and Mceverly in any of those roles??

I mean really????

Like in the real world??????

Errrr yes, we could bring in a better CB but until then those 3 are good enough with the cover at wing back and 2 holding midfielders. Get off their backs and let's kick on
 
Errrr yes, we could bring in a better CB but until then those 3 are good enough with the cover at wing back and 2 holding midfielders. Get off their backs and let's kick on

Right then, Edgar can't use his left foot at all which is a problem for a centre back in a back four and an absolute crippler for one in a back three, Collins looks the most uncomfortable player ever when dragged wide and that will happen constantly in a back three, Mceverly is just plain shit wherever he plays.

It's no from me I'm afraid.
 
Right then, Edgar can't use his left foot at all which is a problem for a centre back in a back four and an absolute crippler for one in a back three, Collins looks the most uncomfortable player ever when dragged wide and that will happen constantly in a back three, Mceverly is just plain shit wherever he plays.

It's no from me I'm afraid.

Well your the expert, McEveley looks composed on Tuesday admittedly against poor opponents but with Harris and Brayford making a back 5 when defending it looks solid to me. I guess we will never know
 
Agree and we have won more games with Tracey in the starting line up
Always makes me smile that we've had so many top keepers over the years ... I would be happy with either to be honest but I preferred Kelly.
 
I would go for:
4-1-2-3

Howard

Brayford -- Kennedy -- edgar -- freeman/ Harris

Basham

Coutts -- baxter

Adams -- sharp -- done

Which could also play as a 4-5-1
With Adams and done dropping into midfield.
 
if we're just picking players regardless of fitness:

Howard
Freeman Brayford Edgar Harris
JCR J.Wallace Basham Adams
Done Sharp
 
Providing we have no injuries:

Howard - Brayford, Kennedy, someone with a pulse in lieu of a new centre back, Harris - Basham, Wallace - Adams, Reed, Done - Sammon
 
Agree and we have won more games with Tracey in the starting line up

That's hardly definitive as to who was the better keeper.

It's Kelly by a long way. Tracey was a good instinctive keeper but was rather lacking between the ears...
 
That's hardly definitive as to who was the better keeper.

It's Kelly by a long way. Tracey was a good instinctive keeper but was rather lacking between the ears...
I wrote an article in Flashing Blade about 15 years ago explaining why I thought Tracey was the better keeper. His kicking was better, his understanding with the defence was better (remember the terrible misunderstandings between Kelly and Nilsen), he was very good on ones to ones, better at dealing with backpasses. Kelly was just a very good shot-stopper.
 
I wrote an article in Flashing Blade about 15 years ago explaining why I thought Tracey was the better keeper. His kicking was better, his understanding with the defence was better (remember the terrible misunderstandings between Kelly and Nilsen), he was very good on ones to ones, better at dealing with backpasses. Kelly was just a very good shot-stopper.

We'll just have to agree to differ, mate. For sure, both were excellent keepers. How some can, and do, put Calamity Kenny in the same class, I can't understand....
 
Howard

Freeman Brayford Edgar Harris

Adams J.Wallace Baxter Done

Sharp Sammon

If all fit obviously
 
We'll just have to agree to differ, mate. For sure, both were excellent keepers. How some can, and do, put Calamity Kenny in the same class, I can't understand....
My best Blades keeper since 1970

1st Simon Tracey

2nd Alan Kelly

3rd Paddy Kenny

4th Jim Brown

5th Tom McAlister

You will switch the top two round but who is your third best keeper?
 



My best Blades keeper since 1970

1st Simon Tracey

2nd Alan Kelly

3rd Paddy Kenny

4th Jim Brown

5th Tom McAlister

You will switch the top two round but who is your third best keeper?

My memory/record-keeping isn't in the same league as yours, mate. I would need to see a full list before making a concluded decision. However, you normally get it about right so, working on your top 5, Tom McAlister without a doubt.

Paddy Kenny, rather like George Long, had me on edge whenever the opposition attacked. Some of his harebrained dashes from his line were almost comical. I say almost because, too often, they cost us dear.

Tracey, whilst a far better keeper, was also something of a bombscare. I well remember a five-nil defeat at Bellend Road when Bassett's long-ball was outflanked by the odious Howard Wlkinson, avoiding the offside rule. Tracey had been told, as was mind-numbingly usual, to advance from his box as far as possible and hoof it as far as possible in the general direction of the other end of the pitch, then hope for the best. He did as he was told to the bitter end, unable to think for himself. Wlkinson stuck a man right on him; the ref, having been tipped-off by Horrible Howard, applied a very generous "not interfering with play" interpretation so when the ball, inevitably, got knocked backed into our half, Simple (and by Pele, he was) Simon was left high and dry and Leeds ran riot. He couldn't adjust; he never could. Alan Kelly was an intelligent keeper. Far, far more than a shot-stopper. He commanded his area with calmness and authority. Tracey had you biting your fingernails. Remember whose ludicrous charge beyond his area began the Battle of BDTBL?
 

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