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Two seasons ago we had two young strikers, highly rated, watched by top clubs, but they hardly played. We prioritised more experienced options. One of the young strikers then played a bit in the Prem, but wasn't quite ready. The other was unavailable.

Both left for PL clubs.

Will history repeat itself with Ryan One?

Should our policy be to include him in the squad, play him when we can, or will it be better to go with more proven options?
 

If we go up he definitely goes out on loan. If not we either sell him for big money or play him.
 
Under this incarnation of the side under Wilder, we need our central striker to have control, balance, strength, interplay and ideally finishing. It’s why Tyrese Campbell has so comfortably set himself apart from other options. The issue is that these are rare traits to have in a youngster. It’s part of the reason why Jebbison and Osula were never anything more than potential. And I feel it’s looking the same for One. I think for his development he needs to be playing men’s football regularly. Even looking at Osula and Jebbison now, I’ve no idea if either will make it. It seems a hard ask for them to make considerable jumps in theses purely on training alone.
 
Two seasons ago we had two young strikers, highly rated, watched by top clubs, but they hardly played. We prioritised more experienced options. One of the young strikers then played a bit in the Prem, but wasn't quite ready. The other was unavailable.

Both left for PL clubs.

Will history repeat itself with Ryan One?

Should our policy be to include him in the squad, play him when we can, or will it be better to go with more proven options?
Experience is far more important for difficult matches in March and April
 
The "football industry" works against young players like Ryan Oné developing and progressing at clubs like Sheffield United. We have been, are, and will probably remain - a striving club. Indeed, with the advent of the Play Offs, many more clubs are already - striving clubs. Always striving for promotion, play offs, or avoiding relegation. Season after season. There are clearly good things about that situation - it maintains fans interest in the season. And gives us dramatic sink or swim, last chance saloon, scenarios.

But, it also leads to an inbuilt conservative, safe approach to recruitment, retention, squad size, etc. Understandably, there is a tendency to have large squads, packed with experienced, tried and trusted, done it before, players.

Layer that with the Transfer Windows. And you get the situation where (for illustration). We are light on strikers going into a window, so we need the likes of Ryan to stay, and not be loaned out, we are thin. But then we make some backstop, dare I say short term, dare I say journeyman, signings, maybe very late in the window. Too late for a full assessment of the squad, too late for strategy, too late for pathways, too late to find the right loan out for the likes of Ryan.

So, Ryan had been a necessary part of the squad at 9pm. But by 11pm, he's surplus to requirements, he's moved down two places in the pecking order, jumped over by players who most likely won't be here at the start of next season. I'm not particularly talking specifics here. I'm painting a picture of the dynamics.

It's very difficult...
 
I think he should've gone out on loan in January. Wilder has said something along the lines of "we had to look after ourselves as well", but it's a risk we should've taken imo given our depth.
 
The "football industry" works against young players like Ryan Oné developing and progressing at clubs like Sheffield United. We have been, are, and will probably remain - a striving club. Indeed, with the advent of the Play Offs, many more clubs are already - striving clubs. Always striving for promotion, play offs, or avoiding relegation. Season after season. There are clearly good things about that situation - it maintains fans interest in the season. And gives us dramatic sink or swim, last chance saloon, scenarios.

But, it also leads to an inbuilt conservative, safe approach to recruitment, retention, squad size, etc. Understandably, there is a tendency to have large squads, packed with experienced, tried and trusted, done it before, players.

Layer that with the Transfer Windows. And you get the situation where (for illustration). We are light on strikers going into a window, so we need the likes of Ryan to stay, and not be loaned out, we are thin. But then we make some backstop, dare I say short term, dare I say journeyman, signings, maybe very late in the window. Too late for a full assessment of the squad, too late for strategy, too late for pathways, too late to find the right loan out for the likes of Ryan.

So, Ryan had been a necessary part of the squad at 9pm. But by 11pm, he's surplus to requirements, he's moved down two places in the pecking order, jumped over by players who most likely won't be here at the start of next season. I'm not particularly talking specifics here. I'm painting a picture of the dynamics.

It's very difficult...

Even Peck wasn't going to be part of the first team this season and apparently it took the intervention of our former chairman to prevent another midfielder coming in. The injuries in midfield has meant Peck has developed, improved, matured and been absolutely key for us this season. Imagine if he'd gone on loan to a struggling League Two club, needing a bit of cover, on the wing or at full back...

I understand there's a risk involved in playing youngsters. And One may not be "ready". But if we don't make serious attempts at making him ready, other clubs are going to tell his agents that they are more keen on doing that than we are.

So I want us to realise, these dynamics, and processes are happening now, and this is our chance to develop a player who may have a very high ceiling. It may come at an expense. Sharp scored two goals in our last promotion season, and Brewster one. Balls were held up and a few free kicks were won, and we were promoted. Meanwhile Osula and Jebbison didn't play, didn't learn, didn't improve on-pitch relations with teammates, didn't strengthen their bonds to the club and fans, or build confidence. They probably stagnated and we ended up getting very little from them in terms of first team success.
 
I will point out, it's different for Ryan. He CAME to us from "Men's Football". He played two dozen games for Hamilton Academical, in the Scottish Leagues. I think there is a danger we place too much emphasis on Loan Outs. You're moving a player you're developing from an environment within your control, to one you can't control. Coldly, that seems an odd way to treat an asset.

There's a lot of knee jerk ... the player has been jumped over, there's no longer a place in the squad, he's played lots of U21 already, er, what to do, eeny meeny ... LOAN.

(Again, general dynamics, not particularly specific)
 
Oné has the benefit of being on a long contract with us (2029) so he has more time to develop.

While a loan deal might have been beneficial to him for the second half of the season (there are still benefits to him training with our first team), given our situation in January I can see why we didn't loan him out.

While we had just signed Cannon, Campbell had only just come back from injury but Moore had just gone to have his surgery which kept him out for a few weeks, plus the fitness question that's always hanging over Brewsters head, even though for the most part he's proved his fitness this season.

If we are promoted, I would expect him to go out on loan somewhere for a full season where he can establish himself.

If we don't get promoted, I hope he could have half a season out on loan somewhere before assessing if he's ready for our team, if he is then he can come and challenge and if not he can stay out on loan till the end of the season.
 
Experience is far more important for difficult matches in March and April
That is hard/impossible to argue against. But I do think there is a legitimate question.

What is our strategy to maximise the chances of our own Academy players having that "far more important" experience for March 2027?

The thing I hear most is finger in the air loans and/or if they're good enough they'll get the experience. I find that an unconvincing pathway.
 
That is hard/impossible to argue against. But I do think there is a legitimate question.

What is our strategy to maximise the chances of our own Academy players having that "far more important" experience for March 2027?

The thing I hear most is finger in the air loans and/or if they're good enough they'll get the experience. I find that an unconvincing pathway.
A friend of mine who is a Derby fan talked positively how his club develop the Academy players. He found it difficult to answer my question "When was the last time you had a successful 1st team?"

Under Harris we developed many Youth players in the 1960s but our attendances were poor. McEwan developed many youth players during his spell as the managers but our average attendance in the 1986-87 season was the fewest in our history.
 
Was only a few months ago there was people on here saying Peck was not the answer and not good enough yet for this level. We threw him in and more importantly stuck with him and he has thrived and his progression has gone through the roof.

I think it will be the same with One, as long as we stick with him and give him a run of games. He has everything you could want in a forward, pace, power, physique, technique, and can certainly finish. Needs to learn positioning and to find space because he most of the time he marks the center half as opposed to the other way around, but it will all come with a good run of games instead of the odd 10 minutes here and there. If we go up he will certainly go out on loan but if we don’t I think he will be playing a lot for us next season.
 
We signed two strikers (or at least two players who could play up top) in January. He should have gone out at the end of the transfer window. He's played 24 minutes since February. We have Moore, Canon, Campbell, Brewster and BBD who can play up top and we often play one striker.

It's tricky but you can understand given our recent history our rather risk-averse approach to sending players out.

If we go up, he needs to go on a 6 month loan to League 1. And then, if he's successful, the Championship in January.
 

I'm not against keeping One round the first team and sending Cannon out on loan to get some confidence
No issue Oné being part of the squad next season if we didn’t go up. But he was not ready to be second striker like he ended up being for November and December.

maybe next time he would have a more appropriate role.
 
Premier League clubs outside of the top six are always looking to drop on the next Callum Wilson, Ivan Toney or Ollie Watkins.

Bournemouth and Newcastle took a punt on Jebbison and Osula because it was low risk and they can afford to do it.

Oné is in the same boat, he's far too young for anyone to possibly know how good he's going to be.

If a similar bid comes in for Oné he'll be gone because we haven't got time to develop him and we need the money.
 
Premier League clubs outside of the top six are always looking to drop on the next Callum Wilson, Ivan Toney or Ollie Watkins.

Bournemouth and Newcastle took a punt on Jebbison and Osula because it was low risk and they can afford to do it.

Oné is in the same boat, he's far too young for anyone to possibly know how good he's going to be.

If a similar bid comes in for Oné he'll be gone because we haven't got time to develop him and we need the money.
Brighton have just paid £10 million for Sunderland winger Tom Watson.
This is the lad who ripped us up at Bramall lane but has only made 17 appearances and scored 2 goals.
Another good example of premier teams paying big money for potential
 

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