Yeovil analysis - pluses

[Bergen Blade]

As an addition to Loughborough's report here's another type of individual report, giving each player a plus when he does something well, separating between defensive and attacking involvements.

A plus isn't given for every pass that finds a teammate or every header which a centre half nods forward. The criteria for a plus is that the player does something that is slightly more than what you'd expect a player to do in that situation, i.e. it has to be a good pass, maybe hit under pressure, or one that required great accuracy, or it can be a header/tackle that a player wins when he looks second favourite for it.


A bit subjective, but here goes:


PLAYER / DEFENSIVE PLUSES / ATTACKING PLUSES:

Howard / 3 / 0


McMahon / 1/ 7

Maguire / 3/ 1

Collins / 4 / 1

Hill / 3 / 1


Gallagher / 1 / 7

McAllister / 5 / 2

McDonald / 1 / 12

Cresswell / 3 / 1


Kitson / 1 / 5

Blackman / 0 / 5


SUBS

Porter / 0 / 5

Williams / 0 / 0


Some general comments:

• McDonald carried the team first half
• McAllister is improving in the anchor role
• McMahon's crossing from deep is really good
• Gallagher was our main threat on goal. He is also a good crosser of the ball and a great corner taker
• Porter is impressive in the air and won more than Kitson
• Marsh-Brown who came on for Yeovil was excellent for Oldham at the Lane last season and impressive again when he came on.

 

[Foxy]

What about all the pluses and minuses off of the ball?

 

[Bergen Blade]

What about all the pluses and minuses off of the ball?

I saw quite a few minuses, but decided against including them. The analysis is not thorough enough to fully credit all off the ball pluses. The camera zoom, mediocre resolution, the one camera production and me only watching the game once means it's not a professional analysis.

But there were some credit given to off the ball runs/players getting into good/important positions.

Cresswell got one of his defensive pluses by getting back to head away a dangerous far post cross (i.e. it wasn't the execution of the header or him jumping high to get to it that merited the plus). Another plus of his was backtracking before putting a challenge in. McMahon's only defensive plus was when he, vitally, was in the right position to screen out Marsh-Brown's cross at the end (i.e. it wasn't a tackle). One of Maguire's pluses was when he read the game well and got in front of his opponent. Gallagher also got one where it was his reading of the game that saw him anticipate one of their passes, enough to make an interception. It was two off the ball runs that saw the same Gallagher get through to try lob the gk, and moments later force a save, and similarly McMahon got one from his run into the box when Kitson tackled/passed it through to him.

Was there something in particular you felt was overlooked Foxy?

 

[Pinchy]

I saw quite a few minuses, but decided against including them. The analysis is not thorough enough to fully credit all off the ball pluses. The camera zoom, mediocre resolution, the one camera production and me only watching the game once means it's not a professional analysis.

But there were some credit given to off the ball runs/players getting into good/important positions.

Cresswell got one of his defensive pluses by getting back to head away a dangerous far post cross (i.e. it wasn't the execution of the header or him jumping high to get to it that merited the plus). Another plus of his was backtracking before putting a challenge in. McMahon's only defensive plus was when he, vitally, was in the right position to screen out Marsh-Brown's cross at the end (i.e. it wasn't a tackle). One of Maguire's pluses was when he read the game well and got in front of his opponent. Gallagher also got one where it was his reading of the game that saw him anticipate one of their passes, enough to make an interception. It was two off the ball runs that saw the same Gallagher get through to try lob the gk, and moments later force a save, and similarly McMahon got one from his run into the box when Kitson tackled/passed it through to him.

Was there something in particular you felt was overlooked Foxy?

He's missing Monty already. He wants marks for futile shadow-chasing.

 

[Ollessendro]

As an addition to Loughborough's report here's another type of individual report, giving each player a plus when he does something well, separating between defensive and attacking involvements.

A plus isn't given for every pass that finds a teammate or every header which a centre half nods forward. The criteria for a plus is that the player does something that is slightly more than what you'd expect a player to do in that situation, i.e. it has to be a good pass, maybe hit under pressure, or one that required great accuracy, or it can be a header/tackle that a player wins when he looks second favourite for it.


A bit subjective, but here goes:


PLAYER / DEFENSIVE PLUSES / ATTACKING PLUSES:

Howard / 3 / 0


McMahon / 1/ 7

Maguire / 3/ 1

Collins / 4 / 1

Hill / 3 / 1


Gallagher / 1 / 7

McAllister / 5 / 2

McDonald / 1 / 12

Cresswell / 3 / 1


Kitson / 1 / 5

Blackman / 0 / 5


SUBS

Porter / 0 / 5

Williams / 0 / 0


Some general comments:

• McDonald carried the team first half
• McAllister is improving in the anchor role
• McMahon's crossing from deep is really good
• Gallagher was our main threat on goal. He is also a good crosser of the ball and a great corner taker
• Porter is impressive in the air and won more than Kitson
• Marsh-Brown who came on for Yeovil was excellent for Oldham at the Lane last season and impressive again when he came on.

Agree with most of that from watching in real time. I also though Smith was very good for them. He gave Maguire the run around on a couple of occassions.

 

[moDtheGod]

Hey Olle, look at McMahon's marks.

 

[boo radley]

What about all the pluses and minuses off of the ball?

That would be the supporters - they did well, even saw some bloke on a little snippet of video playing with a smile on his face

 

[Bergen Blade]

Hey Olle, look at McMahon's marks.

Both he and Gallagher have taken a little bit of stick. They won't be as good as Lowton and Williamson, but they showed in the first half vs Yeovil that they're capable of creating things down the right hand side.

We created next to nothing down the left flank and would benefit from an out and out winger there. Hill is steady defensively and I don't consider it much of a risk to try McFadzean or Tønne there. I'm sure Flynn will start vs Notts County though.

Does McAllister have reason to be disappointed if he's dropped? 2,5 clean sheets while he's played the defensive midfield role.

 

[stannyblade]

Does McAllister have reason to be disappointed if he's dropped? 2,5 clean sheets while he's played the defensive midfield role.

Yes he does but Doyle will be the first on the teamsheet satdi IMO

 

[Kenilworth]

Interesting Bergen Blade, thanks.

Is it that time of the year when the Norweigian winter means that it is dark for 6 months of the year?

 

[Ollessendro]

Mod, tha can dress it up how tha wants, but McMahon was bobbins on Sat-di.

If you look at my report you'll see I gave him credit for a few decent passes and linking up with Gallagher (there was one ball particularly in the first half). However he defended poorly first period. He gave his man too much space and was slow to react. He looked nervous and I was surprised for someone with so much experience. No one expected him to be as good as Lowton, but he is quite highly rated and that is one of the reasons why I was critical. He did some good things, but a lot of the time his distribution was gash. There were some proper Monty moments (that is not being able to find a red and white shirt 5 yards away) in there, which I was quite vocal about on the terrace (hence MoD's comment).

 

[Bergen Blade]

Interesting Bergen Blade, thanks.

Is it that time of the year when the Norweigian winter means that it is dark for 6 months of the year?

You'd think so with my geeky posts!?!

It's only on the north and south pole where the sun doesn't rise above the horizon for six months. Tromsø the biggest city in the north of Norway have this phenomenon between 27th november and 15th of January.

This was the view from my balchony the other day:

 

[Darren]

You'd think so with my geeky posts!?!

It's only on the north and south pole where the sun doesn't rise above the horizon for six months. Tromsø the biggest city in the north of Norway have this phenomenon between 27th november and 15th of January.

This was the view from my balchony the other day:

Little known fact. Bergen is the nearest large town to the Shetlands

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en

 

[Bergen Blade]

Mod, tha can dress it up how tha wants, but McMahon was bobbins on Sat-di.

If you look at my report you'll see I gave him credit for a few decent passes and linking up with Gallagher (there was one ball particularly in the first half). However he defended poorly first period. He gave his man too much space and was slow to react. He looked nervous and I was surprised for someone with so much experience. No one expected him to be as good as Lowton, but he is quite highly rated and that is one of the reasons why I was critical. He did some good things, but a lot of the time his distribution was gash. There were some proper Monty moments (that is not being able to find a red and white shirt 5 yards away) in there, which I was quite vocal about on the terrace (hence MoD's comment).

Stick to your beliefs mate and you can't beat watching the game from the stands (soberly and prepared ) if you're going to assess one player. Sometimes post match analysis can be a good supplement though. The above one didn't include minuses at all, so if McMahon had been skinned by their winger all game it wouldn't have showed.

Six of McMahon's seven pluses came in the first half, and I've noted:

1st half:​

​

+ free kick​

+ cross​

+ cross field ball to opposite flank​

+ cross​

+ through ball​

+ run and shot​

​

2nd half​

+ cross​

Coupled with five 1st half pluses from Gallagher this indicates our right side did well offensively in the first half.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

You'd think so with my geeky posts!?!

It's only on the north and south pole where the sun doesn't rise above the horizon for six months. Tromsø the biggest city in the north of Norway have this phenomenon between 27th november and 15th of January.

This was the view from my balchony the other day:

I thought you might be interested in this Bergen:-

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/travel-review-just-bergen-in-the-rain-1-4950937

Watch out for all the Sheffielders flocking to your "museum for knitting" next Summer

 

[Balham]

Stick to your beliefs mate and you can't beat watching the game from the stands (soberly and prepared ) if you're going to assess one player. Sometimes post match analysis can be a good supplement though. The above one didn't include minuses at all, so if McMahon had been skinned by their winger all game it wouldn't have showed.

Six of McMahon's seven pluses came in the first half, and [...] coupled with five 1st half pluses from Gallagher this indicates our right side did well offensively in the first half.

Wouldn't that also suggest that Yeovil spotted the impact our right side was having in the first half and sorted out their left side at half time? I posted a lot last season about my concerns over Danny Wilson's tactical inflexibility and that concern remains.

 

[Kenilworth]

Coupled with five 1st half pluses from Gallagher this indicates our right side did well offensively in the first half.

That's nothing, Olle does well offensively, every day

 

[Bergen Blade]

Wouldn't that also suggest that Yeovil spotted the impact our right side was having in the first half and sorted out their left side at half time? I posted a lot last season about my concerns over Danny Wilson's tactical inflexibility and that concern remains.

Maybe, and it would help if we had threats down the left or in the centre as well. McDonald's pluses were things that only he in this division can do, but they were almost exclusively from deep, so they didn't result in chances directly. Our strikers rarely looked dangerous in front of goal.

It was good for us that we got the goal from the corner, and it seems a general thing for Sheffield United that we rarely continue to bomb forward when we're in the lead, certainly away. It's not easy to say if it was them who sussed us out, or us who weren't too bothered attacking.

 

[Kenilworth]

You'd think so with my geeky posts!?!

It's only on the north and south pole where the sun doesn't rise above the horizon for six months. Tromsø the biggest city in the north of Norway have this phenomenon between 27th november and 15th of January.

This was the view from my balchony the other day:

Wow! Bergen to Tromso is 1,811 km (1,169 miles in old money) and Google Maps suggest it will take you 24 hours to travel there if you use the E6 and drive (if you can afjord the fuel)

Strange place to put a fire station Bergs. I can see the practice tower from your room.

 

[Balham]

Maybe, and it would help if we had threats down the left or in the centre as well. McDonald's pluses were things that only he in this division can do, but they were almost exclusively from deep, so they didn't result in chances directly. Our strikers rarely looked dangerous in front of goal.

It was good for us that we got the goal from the corner, and it seems a general thing for Sheffield United that we rarely continue to bomb forward when we're in the lead, certainly away. It's not easy to say if it was them who sussed us out, or us who weren't too bothered attacking.

I agree. Sitting back at 1-0 has already cost us once this season (Colchester) but I'm more worried about our inability to break down poor sides with Plan A. Let's face it, draws against Scunthorpe (18th), Colchester (22nd), Coventry (23rd) and Bury (24th) aren't good enough and if we'd won three of those games 2-1 we'd be second, behind Tranmere on goal difference.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Both he and Gallagher have taken a little bit of stick. They won't be as good as Lowton and Williamson, but they showed in the first half vs Yeovil that they're capable of creating things down the right hand side.

My issue with McMahon in the games I've seen is that he always crosses from too deep.
Crosses from too deep are much easier to defend than those pulled back from the byline.
He rarely tries to get the ball to the byline either by taking the defender on himself, or by playing a one-two or by looking to play a short ball in behind the defence.
His first (and usually his only) thought seems to be a long, high cross into the box when I'd like to see him be much more patient and try and work a good opening instead.
Lowton and Williamson were brilliant at doing this last season, which is one of the main reasons we created so many good chances and scored so many goals.

I haven't seen anything of the Yeovil match other than the goal. Did McMahon and Gallagher get in behind the defence at all during their good first half?

 

[Ollessendro]

Stick to your beliefs mate and you can't beat watching the game from the stands (soberly and prepared ) if you're going to assess one player. Sometimes post match analysis can be a good supplement though. The above one didn't include minuses at all, so if McMahon had been skinned by their winger all game it wouldn't have showed.

Six of McMahon's seven pluses came in the first half, and I've noted:

1st half:​

​

+ free kick​

+ cross​

+ cross field ball to opposite flank​

+ cross​

+ through ball​

+ run and shot​

​

2nd half​

+ cross​

Coupled with five 1st half pluses from Gallagher this indicates our right side did well offensively in the first half.

I like your armchair analysis Bergs me owd mucker. Compliments what thos who have been have said. Or in this case it challenges my ale fuelled, irrational and biased, misinformed cockeyed analysis

What about the bad things that McMahon did? Did you note those down? Wasted possession, losing his man, aimless balls etc. I'd be interested to hear the net outcome for our Tony.

We need to get hold of this pro zone malarky Bergen (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...ny-wilson-as-he-turns-on-detractors-1-4958135)

 

[mattbianco1]

The criteria for a plus is that the player does something that is slightly more than what you'd expect a player to do in that situation,

So if a player scores an open net from 5 yards does he get a plus because you'd expect him to score so that's nothing more, however he has added to our chance of winning so that has gotta be a good thing?

 

[mattbianco1]

You'd think so with my geeky posts!?!

It's only on the north and south pole where the sun doesn't rise above the horizon for six months. Tromsø the biggest city in the north of Norway have this phenomenon between 27th november and 15th of January.

This was the view from my balchony the other day:

I'd love to see the northern lights. Always wanted to see them. It's sooooo expensive to holiday in Tromso from England though

 

[Bergen Blade]

My issue with McMahon in the games I've seen is that he always crosses from too deep.
Crosses from too deep are much easier to defend than those pulled back from the byline.
He rarely tries to get the ball to the byline either by taking the defender on himself, or by playing a one-two or by looking to play a short ball in behind the defence.
His first (and usually his only) thought seems to be a long, high cross into the box when I'd like to see him be much more patient and try and work a good opening instead.
Lowton and Williamson were brilliant at doing this last season, which is one of the main reasons we created so many good chances and scored so many goals.

I haven't seen anything of the Yeovil match other than the goal. Did McMahon and Gallagher get in behind the defence at all during their good first half?

Yes, it is usually more dangerous to get crosses in from the byline. I don't think we can expect McMahon to play like Lowton though. Lowton was outstanding going forward, and his combination play with Williamson was not only a joy to watch, it was also effective because of the pair's superior composure and technique.

Gallagher got in behind their defence twice and McMahon once in the first half, and their goalkeeper was forced to make saves from all three of those attempts. They also both showed that they're capable of whipping crosses in, not just floating them in. A bit like Andy Liddell, but he also had the problem that he couldn't beat a full back, so always crossed early and from deep.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I'd love to see the northern lights. Always wanted to see them. It's sooooo expensive to holiday in Tromso from England though

A year ago it was pretty decent in Bergen too:

 

[Bergen Blade]

So if a player scores an open net from 5 yards does he get a plus because you'd expect him to score so that's nothing more, however he has added to our chance of winning so that has gotta be a good thing?

Good question. A point may be given for being in the right spot? Jan Åge Fjørtoft scored a lot of goals because he was first to goalkeeper's rebounds. That didn't happen by accident, he was very much aware that those little sprints when teammates were shooting could see him get more goals.

 

[Ollessendro]

Hey Olle, look at McMahon's marks.

Now we know why Wilson signed Westlake. Time to give Tony the Tiger a 'rest' me thinks. Looked like an accident waiting to happen last week and has cost us 3 points this week. Nice one Macca. For someone with the experience he has his performances at this level are embarassing. Step forward Daryl.