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[blade too long]

Nathan Byrne did the same in the PO semi-final, not so much a "screamer" but still a shot from way out which we should have closed down much quicker.

so if we hit one like that its down to the other teams bad defending ?

 

[Slim Man]

so if we hit one like that its down to the other teams bad defending ?

Not per se, but quite often.
Look how many screamers or long range shots other teams consistently score against us, and a lot of the time Howard is genuinely blameless. We don't close down nearly enough.

 

[Whiston Blade]

so if we hit one like that its down to the other teams bad defending ?

See the BIB below.

Not per se, but quite often.
Look how many screamers or long range shots other teams consistently score against us, and a lot of the time Howard is genuinely blameless. We don't close down nearly enough.

 

[themaninblack]

Please inform me of the details of any poster who has ever described Mceverly as "the best player" and I will apply to have them sectioned.

I'll put my hand up; I thought he and Billy were our best players at Swindon.

 

[PeteBlade]

Some Blades are much better fans than others, they don't get angry, annoyed, upset or any of the like. It's just unequalled, amazing, support. Consistent clapping, well done you. Some of us are scum who are such angry nasty men.
If you came in from work and McEveley was on top of your Mrs there's a few of you would give him a pat on the back cos he plays for United!

Overall I'm over the moon with Adkins, and the squad in general. But there are deficiencies in defence and in creativity. After 5 years I think a bit of frustration and anger is allowed, don't you?

This.

Some labour under the illusion that they are some how 'better' Blades because they twist themselves in knots trying to defend ever slight bit of critisism no matter how ridiculous the excuse is.

 

[grafikhaus]

Nathan Byrne did the same in the PO semi-final, not so much a "screamer" but still a shot from way out which we should have closed down much quicker.

And Kyle Bennett got two for Donnie at BDTBL on 7th April...

 

[Slim Man]

This.

Some labour under the illusion that they are some how 'better' Blades because they twist themselves in knots trying to defend ever slight bit of critisism no matter how ridiculous the excuse is.

It pisses me off.
I don't care how 'disgusting' I, and other Blades, are for thinking McEveley is absolutely wank and saying so on a football forum.

If he comes on and looks at afore mentioned football forums slating him it's his own problem. I certainly feel no guilt and don't regret saying it. I'm fed up of watching shite players play for my football club, I pay along with 20,000 fans every single week to follow this club around the country, I'll say my peace on every single player if I so wish to.

What anyone says on this forum is certainly not going to cost us as many points as Jay McEveley will this season. That's a fact.

 

[RedandWhite]

What is a Mceverly?

 

[BushBlade]

It's like 'almost'..

Malcolm Tucker = Pommpey?

 

[BushBlade]

This.

Some labour under the illusion that they are some how 'better' Blades because they twist themselves in knots trying to defend ever slight bit of critisism no matter how ridiculous the excuse is.

That's true Pete and some people do that but it's equally ridiculous to go completely fucking mental every time we lose a game.

No one's going to be happy about losing to Bury but coming on here is like been stuck in a hot car in a traffic jam with two screaming kids while your missus is telling you 'we're going to be late' and expecting you to find some mythical short cut.

 

[bartman]

It pisses me off.
I don't care how 'disgusting' I, and other Blades, are for thinking McEveley is absolutely wank and saying so on a football forum.

If he comes on and looks at afore mentioned football forums slating him it's his own problem. I certainly feel no guilt and don't regret saying it. I'm fed up of watching shite players play for my football club, I pay along with 20,000 fans every single week to follow this club around the country, I'll say my peace on every single player if I so wish to.

What anyone says on this forum is certainly not going to cost us as many points as Jay McEveley will this season. That's a fact.

Remind me how McEverley played at Swindon and Peterborough earlier in the season and how he performed for the majority of last season.

Try to do this in a constructive manner without swearing or questioning why other Blades have a different opinion to you

 

[Slim Man]

Remind me how McEverley played at Swindon and Peterborough earlier in the season and how he performed for the majority of last season.

Try to do this in a constructive manner without swearing or questioning why other Blades have a different opinion to you

This is the thing with McEveley's big fans, you find it easy to quote the games he played well in rather than the games he played badly in - because there are less of them.
I'll give him his due, he was very good in both, but as good as he was in them he was equally as bad as Gillingham and Saturday. The rest of the season he's just done his job.

Last season he was pretty good BEFORE the first leg at Spurs, after that there was at least 1 mistake every game. He had Basham's pace to get him out of jail on several occasions. I certainly wouldn't say the majority of the season, far from it.

Are you trying to suggest the majority of blades are wrong for not thinking McEveley is good enough? Even Buchan highlighted to Adkins that a lot of callers had 'questioned' McEveley, Adkins didn't really defend him to the heavens. Maybe he's finally noticing what he gives to the team, nothing. He can't head the ball, has massive lapses in concentration, he can't cross and continually loses the ball and overplays thinking he is Paolo Maldini - at 30 years of age he should know his limitations by now, he isn't a kid.

I'll be constructive and highlight the positives in his game: he is good positionally, he doesn't struggle THAT badly with pacy wingers, he gives 100% - erm... Thats it. Is that enough to keep him in a promotion-vying team?

Would Jay McEveley get in any of the top 6 teams from last year, apart from ours? Swindon released him, MK Dons had him on trial and didn't offer him a contract... So that's two down. Bristol, no way, Preston equally no way. Chesterfield might have but Jones is no worse.

Take the Scouse tinted glasses off and look at it with a clear mind, he is not good enough for us. There really is no plainer way to put it.

 

[Ricky]

Last season McEveley started being a liability before the Spurs game. It's just that not every mistake got punished. He just got even worse after that game.

 

[Greenwich Blade]

What is a Mceverly?

The Mceverly Pregnant Brothers?

 

[Greenwich Blade]

This.

Some labour under the illusion that they are some how 'better' Blades because they twist themselves in knots trying to defend ever slight bit of critisism no matter how ridiculous the excuse is.

Defend the Indefensible works from both sides of the fence. Sometimes it can be quite entertaining reading the game of Slag-off Tennis on here; sometimes it is downright irksome.

 

[Bladesman]

True in an ideal situation I would not have McEveley in the first team.

Howard
Freeman Collins/New CB Edgar Harris
JCR Basham Baxter/New CM Adams/Flynn
Sammon Sharp

The main reasons he is in the back 4 is because he is scouse , can perform on the odd occasion and Harris is injured.

 

[bartman]

This is the thing with McEveley's big fans, you find it easy to quote the games he played well in rather than the games he played badly in - because there are less of them.
I'll give him his due, he was very good in both, but as good as he was in them he was equally as bad as Gillingham and Saturday. The rest of the season he's just done his job.

Last season he was pretty good BEFORE the first leg at Spurs, after that there was at least 1 mistake every game. He had Basham's pace to get him out of jail on several occasions. I certainly wouldn't say the majority of the season, far from it.

Are you trying to suggest the majority of blades are wrong for not thinking McEveley is good enough? Even Buchan highlighted to Adkins that a lot of callers had 'questioned' McEveley, Adkins didn't really defend him to the heavens. Maybe he's finally noticing what he gives to the team, nothing. He can't head the ball, has massive lapses in concentration, he can't cross and continually loses the ball and overplays thinking he is Paolo Maldini - at 30 years of age he should know his limitations by now, he isn't a kid.

I'll be constructive and highlight the positives in his game: he is good positionally, he doesn't struggle THAT badly with pacy wingers, he gives 100% - erm... Thats it. Is that enough to keep him in a promotion-vying team?

Would Jay McEveley get in any of the top 6 teams from last year, apart from ours? Swindon released him, MK Dons had him on trial and didn't offer him a contract... So that's two down. Bristol, no way, Preston equally no way. Chesterfield might have but Jones is no worse.

Take the Scouse tinted glasses off and look at it with a clear mind, he is not good enough for us. There really is no plainer way to put it.

Good post.
I neither like or dislike McEverley . I'd like to think I judge players on a game by game basis. He is certainly a be5er full back then centre half but I think he is a very average lower league defender and both Harris and Freeman would be better there but I think he is the target for the vitriol when something goes wrong when clearly other players have made regular mistakes/ errors but not highlighted.

At the moment we do not have a better fit left back than McEveley so he won't be moved out of the team until Harris is fit. Despite this I still think the priority has got to be at centre back and centre midfield as both if these areas are severely lacking in my opinion

 

[Slim Man]

Good post.
I neither like or dislike McEverley . I'd like to think I judge players on a game by game basis. He is certainly a be5er full back then centre half but I think he is a very average lower league defender and both Harris and Freeman would be better there but I think he is the target for the vitriol when something goes wrong when clearly other players have made regular mistakes/ errors but not highlighted.

At the moment we do not have a better fit left back than McEveley so he won't be moved out of the team until Harris is fit. Despite this I still think the priority has got to be at centre back and centre midfield as both if these areas are severely lacking in my opinion

I don't paticularly hate McEveley. and if you look at the general tone of my posts I try to look at both sides of the coin. But when it comes to McEveley, seeing his mistakes week after week - yet him being awarded captaincy and playing every week - really grates on me. I assume it's the same for most of his detractors too.

I don't blame him for being picked, I know we have a lack of options due to injuries - the thing is we SHOULDN'T be relying on him.

The bottom line of it all is I want us to get promoted more than anything on this earth, if I think one of the players in our team is holding us back I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I apologize if that offends some.

 

[Whiston Blade]

For every good game McEveley has, we'll get a hand full of average to shit one's in return. I can't wait for the Beard to return, is it towards the end of the year ?

 

[Slim Man]

For every good game McEveley has, we'll get a hand full of average to shit one's in return. I can't wait for the Beard to return, is it towards the end of the year ?

Which is exactly my point, it is so much easier to highlight McEveley's good game over his bad ones. That's because there are so few.
That tells me all I need to know.

And it's not too long now, should be November.

 

[Ashtonsmashton]

come on , how often do players hit angled screamers from 35 yards out

tell me when we last did it

ome goals care just wonder hits

I don't want them scored against us, it could have easily been stopped

 

[blade too long]

I don't want them scored against us, it could have easily been stopped

any goal can be stopped when youve analysed a video 3 days later
problem is ,,, footballs live

britains greatest coach ever is still scratching his head on how Naismith got 3 past his red hot favourites for the prem

 

[Ashtonsmashton]

any goal can be stopped when youve analysed a video 3 days later
problem is ,,, footballs live

britains greatest coach ever is still scratching his head on how Naismith got 3 past his red hot favourites for the prem

Oh stop trying to be so difficult, if you were there you would have known that certain attack could have been stopped 10+ times

 

[blade too long]

Oh stop trying to be so difficult, if you were there you would have known that certain attack could have been stopped 10+ times

any attack can be stopped, but a shot like that ,,,,, 99 times out of a hundred that would have ended up in the top tier

its not like the remaining 20 clubs visiting the Lane are going to score a screamer from that range if we are unlucky 2 more might
but if we win 18 more at home Ill be ecstatic

 

[BushBlade]

I don't paticularly hate McEveley. and if you look at the general tone of my posts I try to look at both sides of the coin. But when it comes to McEveley, seeing his mistakes week after week - yet him being awarded captaincy and playing every week - really grates on me. I assume it's the same for most of his detractors too.

I don't blame him for being picked, I know we have a lack of options due to injuries - the thing is we SHOULDN'T be relying on him.

The bottom line of it all is I want us to get promoted more than anything on this earth, if I think one of the players in our team is holding us back I'm not going to pretend otherwise. I apologize if that offends some.

If it wasn't for Bob being injured we probably wouldn't be relying on him, he'd be on the bench.
He reminds me a bit of Matt Hill; a good enough reserve that's ended up playing more games than he should.

We seem to be a bit unlucky with left backs over the last ten years or so; Armstrong, LJF. We get a good one and they get injured. And haven't we had some shit ones too...

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Even Buchan highlighted to Adkins that a lot of callers had 'questioned' McEveley

Phone-ins are not evidence of McEveley's performance good or bad just evidence of depth of feeling among opinionated and vocal fans.

Buchan is doing his job in raising with the manager the questions that are clogging up his timeline, but that shouldn't be conflated with a dispassionate analysis of actual performance.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

seeing his mistakes week after week

Are you certain you are just not seeing others who make similar mistakes?

I honestly don't know whether he's good or bad, but I do know that the other week Bergen pointed out that Baxter had played fairly well, and all I saw was three misplaced passes in the first ten minutes - after that my mind was made up.

A decent game in reality had become a stinker in my opinion.

I'd like to see some actual stats on McEveley - and not just selective ones.

 

[Slim Man]

Phone-ins are not evidence of McEveley's performance good or bad just evidence of depth of feeling among opinionated and vocal fans.

Buchan is doing his job in raising with the manager the questions that are clogging up his timeline, but that shouldn't be conflated with a dispassionate analysis of actual performance.

Christ, are you Jay or his missus?

 

[Ashtonsmashton]

any attack can be stopped, but a shot like that ,,,,, 99 times out of a hundred that would have ended up in the top tier

its not like the remaining 20 clubs visiting the Lane are going to score a screamer from that range if we are unlucky 2 more might
but if we win 18 more at home Ill be ecstatic

ALL THEY HAD TO DO IS TACKLE THE GUY, ITS NOT HARD

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Christ, are you Jay or his missus?

Is there a substantial point?

It's becoming ever clearer that McEveley is being scapegoated.

Aisi it's better to figure out the real reasons we conceded, and what we can do to improve.

If the wrong reasons continue to be advanced then it makes sense to refute them, regardless of the players. It's not about defending McEveley, it's about pointing out obvious flaws in analysis.