Wouldn’t be surprised

[Cerberus Blade]

if Wilder walks tomorrow, couldn’t blame him

No I don’t think so.

He’s triumphed in adversity before at Northampton. But I did say ages ago on here that we really must push for promotion to the Prem last season and if we don’t then we risk losing our best players and eventually our manager. I also disagreed strongly about “consolidation” last season arguing that there’s no guarantee that we’ll be stronger this season.

Since then we’ve sold our brightest prospect, the ownership of the club is in meltdown, and Wilder, who has acted very quickly in the transfer market since he was appointed, has struggled to act quickly this time. That speaks volumes to me.

All is not gloom and doom but January will be the time when Wilder walks, if at all. Because by then we’ll be reaping the harvest of a season that has started in uncertainty and could be heading for a nosedive, if things aren’t resolved by then. And I think that’s the time it will all become too much for the finest manager in decades to take.

Desperately hope I’m wrong!

 

[Cerberus Blade]

From the court paper, my emphasis added

“In his first witness statement dated 12 June 2018, Mr Tutton says that being assured of a transfer budget was a key reason why the club's manager extended his contract. Although spending on players was in one sense discretionary (in that there was no obligation on FC to buy), in practical terms it was essential, in order to avoid unsettling the manager, the risk that he might decide to leave (whether in breach of contract or not), word leaking to other clubs that FC is in financial difficulty and the club's playing staff not being strengthened. This in turn would tend to de-motivate the club and its supporters, thereby causing further financial problems in the future. Mr Downes summarised this by stressing the importance generally of confidence among the players and all those associated with a football club. It is somewhat ironic, in view of these arguments, that Sheffield has chosen to pursue this application, which will no doubt attract publicity, rather than submit to one or other of the funding alternatives that UTB offered.”

That said,it seems likely that the Brooks cash will likely guarantee the original cash asked for (£2m), so I guess it depends on how much more of that Brooks cash he feels is needed. I don’t think he’ll go based on what I’ve read in the court paper.

Oh! So he asked for just £2m eh?

This will be news to some on here I think. Because some were already planning to spend £12 m.

I said we would not spend more than £3m this summer. I doubt we will even spend that now.

 

[8lade]

"The fax machine is on the blink again."

Chris Wilder is the only person who could come out and say, ' we'd agreed on Jerome Sinclair* for £3m but the fax went on the fritz so it never went through.' And if he did it with a cheeky smile, we'd all know and accept it.
*Insert name of your choice, I stuck this one in since everybody has forgotten about him and the agent who's effectually stunted his career.

 

[Foxy]

I think there will be a number of clubs in our league running on restricted budgets or struggling for room to manoeuvre next season.

Sadly, there will also always be at least a few who spend ridiculously.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Oh! So he asked for just £2m eh?

This will be news to some on here I think. Because some were already planning to spend £12 m.

I said we would not spend more than £3m this summer. I doubt we will even spend that now.

Two more signings will total above that £2m and probably the £3m

 

[The Crab]

Sheffield is McCabe and UTB the prince,..............
Or they could be Hanzal,and Gretal as it’s getting more like a fairy story every day

More like Punch & Judy. Just waiting for the Crocodile to turn up with the Sausages now.

 

[Sean Thornton]

More like Punch & Judy. Just waiting for the Crocodile to turn up with the Sausages now.

The crocodile turns up to steal the sausages which were left with Punch for safekeeping!

I know, I'm a cunt

 

[The Crab]

The crocodile turns up to steal the sausages which were left with Punch for safekeeping!

I know, I'm a cunt

I knew those shoes of yours weren't fucking calfskin #poorcroc

 

[Tom Bott]

What about if the players walked out? Would that be OK also?

What if the fans walk out and hold a protest in the car park with their shoes off and Brian the Blade runs around naked.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

No I don’t think so.

He’s triumphed in adversity before at Northampton. But I did say ages ago on here that we really must push for promotion to the Prem last season and if we don’t then we risk losing our best players and eventually our manager. I also disagreed strongly about “consolidation” last season arguing that there’s no guarantee that we’ll be stronger this season.

Since then we’ve sold our brightest prospect, the ownership of the club is in meltdown, and Wilder, who has acted very quickly in the transfer market since he was appointed, has struggled to act quickly this time. That speaks volumes to me.

All is not gloom and doom but January will be the time when Wilder walks, if at all. Because by then we’ll be reaping the harvest of a season that has started in uncertainty and could be heading for a nosedive, if things aren’t resolved by then. And I think that’s the time it will all become too much for the finest manager in decades to take.

Desperately hope I’m wrong!

I’ve said on another post, but I feel that the general vibe is off this season. If we start the season with what we currently have on our books, with the intention of getting through to January, then we’ll struggle. It also worries me that the powers that be think that £2m is an acceptable transfer budget for an aspirational championship team, it’s not even an acceptable budget for an aspirational League 1 side.

 

[ThatJa]

I’ve said on another post, but I feel that the general vibe is off this season. If we start the season with what we currently have on our books, with the intention of getting through to January, then we’ll struggle. It also worries me that the powers that be think that £2m is an acceptable transfer budget for an aspirational championship team, it’s not even an acceptable budget for an aspirational League 1 side.

What worries me, is when this gets down to player level, right now its at Manager level, but when it gets to player level and the "better" players start feeling we aren't improving the squad enough to go up, they'll want to leave, too.

Fleck
O'Connell
Baldock

Probably a few more.

 

[Champagneblade]

I do wonder whether Chris has been a bit naive in his dealings with the Owners, especially given the recent unwanted publicity.

Speaking to the Board about how much Brooks money he can have. Would this not have been a better conversation prior to accepting the bid?

“They are offering 12m+. I’m going to need half and we can put the rest to the upkeep of the club”. If not he could have digged his heels in and not sold. If he’s getting hardly any, then why bother? Brooks was on a long contract.

 

[derfblade.3]

if Wilder walks tomorrow, couldn’t blame him

 

[Sean Thornton]

I do wonder whether Chris has been a bit naive in his dealings with the Owners, especially given the recent unwanted publicity.

Speaking to the Board about how much Brooks money he can have. Would this not have been a better conversation prior to accepting the bid?

“They are offering 12m+. I’m going to need half and we can put the rest to the upkeep of the club”. If not he could have digged his heels in and not sold. If he’s getting hardly any, then why bother? Brooks was on a long contract.

Brooks wanted to go. That just left the fee to be negotiated. Now Wilder is naive.

Is there nothing about this club that some can't find a negative slant on?

We don't even know what's been discussed but let's assume some more.

 

[I should coco]

Is there nothing about this club that some can't find a negative slant on?

The Desso was too expensive and the money should have been spent on more Connor Sammons
The beer is crap and too expensive
Parking is difficult
Fans don't sing
The pies are crap and expensive
SYP go over the top and are pathetic at policing, probably due to club instructions
The new shirts are really crap and expensive
You can't get a piss at half time
The ticket office is shit and you can't get through on the phone
Our fans are all Ingerland supporting EDL racists and the club don't stop them
The Wagon Wheels are smaller than they used to be becasue McCabe takes a big bite out of each one
We get smaller crowds than Wednesday (a well known fact)
The loyaltly points system is really unfair (to anyone who hasn't got many)

 

[BushBlade]

The crocodile turns up to steal the sausages which were left with Punch for safekeeping!

I know, I'm a cunt

So, the Prince is the crocodile and KM is Punch?

 

[The Crab]

What if the fans walk out and hold a protest in the car park with their shoes off and Brian the Blade runs around naked.

Ah, sausage sandwich. hello old friend, good to see you back again.....................

 

[blade too long]

mind boggling anti blade thread again

owls dont have to slag us off , some of our fans doing an A1 job

back stabbing at the highest level ,,,, is pretty much whats been going on since Caligula poisoned his way to the top
of 92 professional clubs theres probably 5 or 7 that dont have board room squabbles, yet of course ours are the most destructive

 

[I should coco]

So, the Prince is the crocodile and KM is Punch?

Do keep up at the back there.

Punch is David Weir, Judy is Kev, the constable is the Prince and Brooks is the sausages.

Other parts are played by members of the cast.

This has been a Bladescockup production in full colour wankovision.

 

[Champagneblade]

Brooks wanted to go. That just left the fee to be negotiated. Now Wilder is naive.

Is there nothing about this club that some can't find a negative slant on?

We don't even know what's been discussed but let's assume some more.

You don’t think Wilder should have agreed with the Board how mich he was getting before the sale? Knowing our Board? That’s what I found naive.

Inevitable he would go though just with Mahrez at Leicester, they could have kept him longer if they so wished. He didn’t have to be sold that day, the window closes in August.

 

[Cutbush City Limits]

What actually constitutes a ‘transfer’ budget though? If Bournemouth have paid £12m, we will likely see £3m upfront, so it’s unlikely the board will give CW more than the upfront payment to spend.

By the same token is the £2m ‘budget’ meant for the entire cost or just the upfront value....meaning that a £2m budget might get you players worth £8m?

 

[pommpey]

The Desso was too expensive and the money should have been spent on more Connor Sammons
The beer is crap and too expensive
Parking is difficult
Fans don't sing
The pies are crap and expensive
SYP go over the top and are pathetic at policing, probably due to club instructions
The new shirts are really crap and expensive
You can't get a piss at half time
The ticket office is shit and you can't get through on the phone
Our fans are all Ingerland supporting EDL racists and the club don't stop them
The Wagon Wheels are smaller than they used to be becasue McCabe takes a big bite out of each one
We get smaller crowds than Wednesday (a well known fact)
The loyaltly points system is really unfair (to anyone who hasn't got many)

Most (but not all) of that is pretty valid. But as ever, here's a pachyderm sat in your armchair:

"The club is woefully mismanaged and is eternally in some or other financial/board-level crisis"

Not if that isn't summat to whinge about, I don't know what is. It's pretty valid, pretty much up-to-date and has gone on for donkey's years. It's an ever present disease which Sheffield United suffer from. Tell me a time in the last 50 years when it was different. If we fix it, we fix our eternal propensity to be mediocre and sell our best players. You can't blame the fans for wanting that to change - there are enough of them and seemingly - there's enough money going into the club to surely make things a bit better than they are.

It seems we can have a great stadium, great pitch, good fanbase, decent players, good manager but we can't have a stable management structure at the same time. We can't better the playing staff and we can't have a stable board. They are all parts of an equation which is fucked up beyond recognition, and the only constants in there, are the fans ... and McCabe.

Go figure.

pommpey

 

[I should coco]

"The club is woefully mismanaged and is eternally in some or other financial/board-level crisis"

Tell me a time in the last 50 years when it was different.

the only constants in there, are the fans ... and McCabe.

McCabe has been chairman for 18 of those 50 years, so hardly a 'constant'.

Having acknowledged the 'great stadium and great pitch' how do you think they might have happened? The Desso Tree and the Stadium Tree, per chance?

Still, why let the facts stand in the way of the usual anti-Kev rhetoric?

 

[Harrisblade]

McCabe has been chairman for 18 of those 50 years, so hardly a 'constant'.

Having acknowledged the 'great stadium and great pitch' how do you think they might have happened? The Desso Tree and the Stadium Tree, per chance?

Still, why let the facts stand in the way of the usual anti-Kev rhetoric?

Just to lighten things up (a little)

"Despite facing issues of his own as United's co-owners, Kevin McCabe and HRH Prince Abdullah bin Musa'ad bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, pursue their rival takeover bids, Wilder has been told to press ahead with his search for reinforcements after luring Manchester United goalkeeper Dean Henderson to South Yorkshire last month."

Read more at: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...ed-by-other-business-at-aston-villa-1-9247855

 

[Jan Age]

He can press ahead all he likes. If the person signing the cheques has no intention of doing so then what is the point? we have until the 9th of August to get signings in which is 4 weeks away. We better be almost putting pen to paper on 2 and be some way down the line with 2 others. Otherwise we will start the season woefully short and this will be until the next window. I hope I am proven wrong.

This season for me we will finish 15th and flirt with relegation for a while.

As usual the club (or the powers that run the club) have wrecked the budding of something great. TBH I don't want either party to take over as they are both guilty of letting it come to this.