Would you be happy...With a finish above the Pigs?

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Everything considered,would you be happy to finish above the pigs come next May?
 

As opposed to promotion or just in general? Promotion has got to be the primary goal, but failing that we must finish above Wednesday. Anything less would be embarrassing. Not as embarrassing as a 14-0 defeat but embarrassing nonetheless.
 
It would be a shame to end our run as sheffields least shit side
 
tough question, 4-4-2 magazine say they think wendy will win the league so im pretty sure given that we cant finish above them but ive got to say finishing below a team that lost 14-0 against a part time team would be heartily embaressing.
seriously yes, finish above wendy and chesterfield and ill be happy because even if they finish 24th n 23rd we only have to finish 20th and we safe :)

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I'd be happy if we can offload (or re negotiate) with Monty, Quinn, Morgan and Willo, and bin Evans and Simmo at any cost - and then stay up.

If we can start next season on a sound footing, feeling that every positive step forward is one that we can afford, I'll be more than happy. This season is about restructuring, and getting 92 League grounds under my belt.....:)

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---------- Post added at 09:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:34 PM ----------

As opposed to promotion or just in general? Promotion has got to be the primary goal.
....but back on planet earth....:D ?

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Anything but promotion should be deemed failure.
 
Anything but promotion should be deemed failure.

Well said! Things have not yet sunk so low as to be looking for "consolidation" in the third tier. We are (despite what many have written here) better than that or at least should be aspiring to be.
 
Well said! Things have not yet sunk so low as to be looking for "consolidation" in the third tier. We are (despite what many have written here) better than that or at least should be aspiring to be.

Agreed. I really can't think that we have sunken so low as to feel that we will have difficulty competing with Yeovil, Stevenage, Exeter etc etc
 
Agreed. I really can't think that we have sunken so low as to feel that we will have difficulty competing with Yeovil, Stevenage, Exeter etc etc

Youre a 'glass is half full' man then...
 
Don't particularly care where they finish, it's us that counts. Would people be devastated if they finished top and we finished 2nd ?
 
Dont care about them. Just want us to get back to winning ways and stop the rot.

This season is about restoring some pride and optimism from my point of view.
 

Would people be devastated if they finished top and we finished 2nd ?

That's the only scenario where they finished above us that wouldn't annoy me.
 
Would people be devastated if they finished top and we finished 2nd ?

That's the only scenario where they finished above us that wouldn't annoy me.

Incidentally, the 11 consecutive years we have finished above them is a record for my lifetime and (if memory serves) I think the all time record is 14 years in the 20's/30's.
 
No, the record is 11 seasons, from 1913-14 to 1927-28 inclusive (there were of course War years intervening). We equalled it this year.
 
No, the record is 11 seasons, from 1913-14 to 1927-28 inclusive (there were of course War years intervening). We equalled it this year.

Ok, so we do need to finish above them this season! Maybe the 14 years I was thinking about was the all time record for both clubs.
 
What is odd is that in my lifetime the periods of, ahem, dominance have tended to be quite long:

United have been the highest finishers for 11 years (2001-2011)
Before that, it was Wednesday for 9 years (1992-2000)
Then there was a one year United higher finish (1991)
Preceded by 11 years of higher Wednesday finishes (1980-1990)
And 9 years of United dominance before that (1971-79)

if the pattern continues, they will get above us next year, but then we will go on a 9 year higher place run....
 
Well said! Things have not yet sunk so low as to be looking for "consolidation" in the third tier. We are (despite what many have written here) better than that or at least should be aspiring to be.

I can't agree. And it's our failure to grasp just how shite we've become that has masked the ridiculous wages we've handed out to very average players. We keep excusing our rubishness.

We're in the third because we deserve to be. Judging on how others have coiped that have gone down, and what we've done since, I've nothing to base any optimism on (other than there was a club daft enough to take hendo off us, so we can still hope for the rest). The subesquent comments (not yours) about refusing to accept that we're at the level of Yeovil and the like are just the type of comments that we abused the pigs for, as they spectaculary failed to graps the same issue.

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I can't agree. And it's our failure to grasp just how shite we've become that has masked the ridiculous wages we've handed out to very average players. We keep excusing our rubishness.

We're in the third because we deserve to be. Judging on how others have coiped that have gone down, and what we've done since, I've nothing to base any optimism on (other than there was a club daft enough to take hendo off us, so we can still hope for the rest). The subesquent comments (not yours) about refusing to accept that we're at the level of Yeovil and the like are just the type of comments that we abused the pigs for, as they spectaculary failed to graps the same issue.

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You misunderstand.

I don't argue for a minute that we are not on the same level as Yeovil on merit. However, what with us probably having attendances in the 15-20,000 bracket in the third tier (assuming a decent season) andYeovil getting around 4000, our resources will be such that we should clearly be beating teams like that - just as you will expect Man Utd to beat Swansea in the PL given their disparity in resources.
 
What is odd is that in my lifetime the periods of, ahem, dominance have tended to be quite long:

United have been the highest finishers for 11 years (2001-2011)
Before that, it was Wednesday for 9 years (1992-2000)
Then there was a one year United higher finish (1991)
Preceded by 11 years of higher Wednesday finishes (1980-1990)
And 9 years of United dominance before that (1971-79)

if the pattern continues, they will get above us next year, but then we will go on a 9 year higher place run....

Having just checked, I can tell you that those 11 year streaks are a record for both clubs. Overall I calculate Wednesday have finished top 57 times to United's 51
 
You misunderstand.

I don't argue for a minute that we are not on the same level as Yeovil on merit. However, what with us probably having attendances in the 15-20,000 bracket in the third tier (assuming a decent season) andYeovil getting around 4000, our resources will be such that we should clearly be beating teams like that - just as you will expect Man Utd to beat Swansea in the PL given their disparity in resources.

Ah, but you've made my point. It's paying, for example, Evans £1M per year that has rendered our crowds irrelevant when comparing to the others. I wouldn't be suprised if Evans' wages alone would cover Yeovil's entire squad.

For that reason this season success will, for me, be determined by our ability to offload the mistakes of the past.

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Ah, but you've made my point. It's paying, for example, Evans £1M per year that has rendered our crowds irrelevant when comparing to the others. I wouldn't be suprised if Evans' wages alone would cover Yeovil's entire squad.

For that reason this season success will, for me, be determined by our ability to offload the mistakes of the past.

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But if - and I know this is a big if - they play to their potential you would expect players of the calibre of Quinn, Cresswell, Williamson, Montgomery, Evans etc - players who have spent all of their carreers in the top two divisions - to have far too much for the likes of Yeovil. Yes, these players are paid over the odds for the 3rd Division, but that is because they should be too good for the 3rd Division.
 

But if - and I know this is a big if - they play to their potential you would expect players of the calibre of Quinn, Cresswell, Williamson, Montgomery, Evans etc - players who have spent all of their carreers in the top two divisions - to have far too much for the likes of Yeovil. Yes, these players are paid over the odds for the 3rd Division, but that is because they should be too good for the 3rd Division.

I expect a combination of;

a) They aren't that good, hence our relegation
b) Their heart not being in it
c) The better the play, the more likely we'll lose them anyway. We'll be stuck with the shit (Evans)
d) We'll lose them and have to rebuild mid season
e) Delusions of grandeur leading to us being suprised by a cup tie atmosphere everywhere we go.

I can't wait for the new season, I just have very little expectation of it.

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