Worst goals United have conceded

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If you look back 2 of the Preston goals were easy set-pieces to defend, the goal back at MK Dons was an absolute farce to concede and then yet again on Saturday we saw easy goals given away.
 



S11Blade said:
If you look back 2 of the Preston goals were easy set-pieces to defend, the goal back at MK Dons was an absolute farce to concede and then yet again on Saturday we saw easy goals given away.
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Can anyone on here tell me why those are Cloughs fault and not the players?
 
Mid 80s - Blackburn at home 3-3 draw. The game where Steve Wigley scored a wonder goal... anyway, if memory serves, one of their players hit a slow, bobbling shot from about 30 yards out and Burridge somehow let it trickle past him. Sticks in my memory for some reason!
 
groveblade Your memory does serve you right. I was at that game too, and I vividly remember Burridge's clanger. I actually asked him about it when I met him recently - see photo - but he had absolutely no recollection of it (or Wigley's wonder goal). Made me realise that the fans are far more invested emotionally in their club than the players are.
 
groveblade said:
Mid 80s - Blackburn at home 3-3 draw. The game where Steve Wigley scored a wonder goal... anyway, if memory serves, one of their players hit a slow, bobbling shot from about 30 yards out and Burridge somehow let it trickle past him. Sticks in my memory for some reason!
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It wasn't a trickle! Ex SWFcer John Lowey had a shot from about 40 yards out on our left. It looked a routine catch for Burridge as it came to him about chest high, but he somehow fumbled it and more or less threw it into the goal....
 
Darren said:
It wasn't a trickle! Ex SWFcer John Lowey had a shot from about 40 yards out on our left. It looked a routine catch for Burridge as it came to him about chest high, but he somehow fumbled it and more or less threw it into the goal....
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Yes, it went in off his left arm.
 
Hague Blade said:
groveblade Your memory does serve you right. I was at that game too, and I vividly remember Burridge's clanger. I actually asked him about it when I met him recently - see photo - but he had absolutely no recollection of it (or Wigley's wonder goal). Made me realise that the fans are far more invested emotionally in their club than the players are.
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Glad someone saved me the bother of bringing Budgie to the party.

Having dragged Richardson into the thread it seemed poor form to include my second least favourite keeper of all time as well.
 
GRUMPY BLADE said:
Can anyone on here tell me why those are Cloughs fault and not the players?
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The only thing i could say is that Clough picks the players who aren't in their natural position and these players are making the mistakes. I wouldn't say it's all Nigels fault though as they are professionals and should be able to defend set pieces as a team or unit. Ultimately though, the book usually stops at the managers door unfortunately.
 
Lee Baxter's limp wrists that day at Burnley. I was only young but i'll never forget that ball almost taking him with it despite not being hit particularly hard.
 
wizadry said:
The only thing i could say is that Clough picks the players who aren't in their natural position and these players are making the mistakes. I wouldn't say it's all Nigels fault though as they are professionals and should be able to defend set pieces as a team or unit. Ultimately though, the book usually stops at the managers door unfortunately.
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Agree with players making mistakes.

As a professional centre forwards have sat in enough changing rooms and heard enough managers and coaches telling full backs when to send the winger inside or outside, how to stop the cross coming in to be able to play full back.

Might not the best full back if asked but being a professional should be as good as a full back from the league below.

Point I'm making is that the manager can't be held responsible for players making basic mistakes.
 



I remember another one from the mid or late 90s against Qpr, might be the same season as the stoke goal.

They played a pass to a blatantly offside player who was running back. It either hit our defender while appealing for offside, or maybe he stuck his foot out, and the 'offside' guy picked it up and finished 1v1 with the keeper. Wasn't offside of course because it came off our player.

Will have been someone like Gallen or Peacock, around that time. I think Steve Morrow was playing for them.
 
Mick Bates goal for Weeds at Elland Road, September 1974. Allan Clarke kicked Tom McAlister in the head, the ball ran free and Bates who was probably ten yards offside anyway slotted it into an empty net. The ref could see nothing wrong with it. Tommo had to be stretchered off. Woody went in goal and we ended up on the wrong end of a 5-1 thrashing.

It's 40 years ago and it still rankles.
 
AgaMonkey said:
Mick Bates goal for Weeds at Elland Road, September 1974. Allan Clarke kicked Tom McAlister in the head, the ball ran free and Bates who was probably ten yards offside anyway slotted it into an empty net. The ref could see nothing wrong with it. Tommo had to be stretchered off. Woody went in goal and we ended up on the wrong end of a 5-1 thrashing.

It's 40 years ago and it still rankles.
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That was in Nov 1972. L**ds were winning 1-0 when Bates feet clashed with McAlister's head and Allan Clarke tapped in the 2nd. Woody took over in goal and didnt concede. Dave Staniforth pulled a goal back for us.

Jim Brown was our keeper in the 5-1 thrashing (not long after L**ds sacked Clough) in Sept 1974. McAlister didnt play a 1st team match between our 2-1 home loss to Man City in Oct 1973 and the 1-0 defeat at QPR in Oct 1975. He broke his leg for the 2nd time in a pre season friendly at Altrincham in summer 1974 so his return to the 1st team was delayed for another year
 
Silent Blade said:
That was in Nov 1972. L**ds were winning 1-0 when Bates feet clashed with McAlister's head and Allan Clarke tapped in the 2nd. Woody took over in goal and didnt concede. Dave Staniforth pulled a goal back for us.

Jim Brown was our keeper in the 5-1 thrashing (not long after L**ds sacked Clough) in Sept 1974. McAlister didnt play a 1st team match between our 2-1 home loss to Man City in Oct 1973 and the 1-0 defeat at QPR in Oct 1975. He broke his leg for the 2nd time in a pre season friendly at Altrincham in summer 1974 so his return to the 1st team was delayed for another year
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I went to that 5-1 game. The funny thing is that we played well, especially first half. We hit the woodwork two or three times - I can definitely recall Mick Speight hitting the bar from about thirty yards and TC hitting the post, both in the first half - and I think there was at least one of our shots cleared off the line by either Reaney or Madeley. We were still in it when Eddie Colquhoun tried a backheader to Jim Brown early in the second half which Allan Clarke intercepted. He was quite a long way out and still had a lot to do but I remember my mate next to me muttering "this is a goal" and he was right. It went downhill after that. Did Gordon McQueen score for them, Silent?
 
Grecian2000 said:
Glad someone saved me the bother of bringing Budgie to the party.

Having dragged Richardson into the thread it seemed poor form to include my second least favourite keeper of all time as well.
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Not Nicky Johns?
 
Shalalalafenoughty said:
I went to that 5-1 game. The funny thing is that we played well, especially first half. We hit the woodwork two or three times - I can definitely recall Mick Speight hitting the bar from about thirty yards and TC hitting the post, both in the first half - and I think there was at least one of our shots cleared off the line by either Reaney or Madeley. We were still in it when Eddie Colquhoun tried a backheader to Jim Brown early in the second half which Allan Clarke intercepted. He was quite a long way out and still had a lot to do but I remember my mate next to me muttering "this is a goal" and he was right. It went downhill after that. Did Gordon McQueen score for them, Silent?
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I remember the game well, I was home for that weekend from my boarding school and my Norwich supporting mate stayed at our house for the weekend. My dad took us to Elland Road and we were sat with the L**ds fans. A L**ds fan that my dad knew from Dronfield was sat a few rows away from us and both were giving each other stick before the game. You are right that we dominated in the 1st half but L**ds scored their first that was against the run of play and then not long before half time Gordon McQueen headed in a corner powerfully to put them 2 up. This L**ds fan from Dronfield was jumping up, looking at my dad and waving at him. Then near half time we were awarded a penalty but Keith Eddy's effort hit the post! Yes we had other chances that hit the woodwork but couldnt remember whose shot they were from until your post. Dont remember the rest of the goals but this L**ds fan from Dronfield was goading at my dad every time they scored. Late in the game Billy Dearden got our consolation goal that prompted something that my mate and I never expected, my dad jumped up like a lunatic and yelled at the L**ds fan in a gleeful way. All the L**ds fans looked at my dad as if he was an idiot which embarrassed me and my mate (he still has not forgotten my dad's moment of madness!)

30 odd years later I was surprised to learn that my dad wasnt the only member of my family that had a rather eventful day at the same place that day when I was checking the facts of the matches in my Uncle Ronnie's 2nd book before it was published. He was with Mick Cardwell (Moose Mulligan) and someone else (cant remember who) at L**ds and Moose was looking for a fight with the L**ds fans and goading at them letting them know he is a Blade at the pubs near the ground. I know Moose for a long time (his parents and 5 brothers lived near my grandmother's in Stonelow Road) and he is quite a fearsome looking person who wasnt afraid of fighting anyone so the L**ds fans at the pubs didnt take the challenge. When Ronnie, Moose and their other friend got in the ground they were stood with the L**ds fans. When the L**ds fans were singing something like "the slums of Sheffield", Moose roared with anger and shouted something back at them, then many L**ds fans ran towards the three Blades fans and giving them a good kicking until the Police stepped in and pulling the three Blades fans to the perimeter of the pitch. I think the police were looking to move them to a safer area but Moose carried on shouting at the L**ds fans so the police decided to make them leave the ground and told them to catch the train home immediately despite being battered and bruised
 
Memory is a funny thing, Silent. I've no recollection at all of Eddy's penalty. You've none of the others who hit the woodwork. Between the two of us, we remember it quite well, don't we?
 
Shalalalafenoughty said:
Memory is a funny thing, Silent. I've no recollection at all of Eddy's penalty. You've none of the others who hit the woodwork. Between the two of us, we remember it quite well, don't we?
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There are a few matches in the 1970s that I think I went to but have no recollection of any moments of that matches. The most curious one for me is of our home 2-1 win against Chelsea in February 1975. Woody scored (I often replay his goals in my head), Badger scored too which is quite rare, Jim Brown saved a John Hollins penalty (Greenwich Blade said the save defied science) and Gary Jones (on loan from Bolton) played for us but I do not remember any of these incidents but I was home for a long weekend that weekend and remember watching the 1st team train at the Ball Inn a few days later before going back to boarding school. I even read the match reports below from this excellent Chelsea fan's website but still dont know why an excellent win against a big club like Chelsea is wiped off from my memory bank http://www.bounder.friardale.co.uk/Match Reports/1974/19750215.jpg
 
Shalalalafenoughty said:
I went to that 5-1 game. The funny thing is that we played well, especially first half. We hit the woodwork two or three times - I can definitely recall Mick Speight hitting the bar from about thirty yards and TC hitting the post, both in the first half - and I think there was at least one of our shots cleared off the line by either Reaney or Madeley. We were still in it when Eddie Colquhoun tried a backheader to Jim Brown early in the second half which Allan Clarke intercepted. He was quite a long way out and still had a lot to do but I remember my mate next to me muttering "this is a goal" and he was right. It went downhill after that. Did Gordon McQueen score for them, Silent?
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Knew that footage of the goals were somewhere on youtube and I have just found them (between 2:22 and 3:52). You are right about the 3rd goal but I still dont remember it. Just noticed that the ref was John Yates who disallowed Colin Addison's "goal" against QPR in Nov 1970 because he blew for the final whistle as the shot was about to cross the line. Look at Eddie Colquhoun's face and shaking his head at Yates as if he is saying "stupid decision"

 
Silent Blade said:
Knew that footage of the goals were somewhere on youtube and I have just found them (between 2:22 and 3:52). You are right about the 3rd goal but I still dont remember it. Just noticed that the ref was John Yates who disallowed Colin Addison's "goal" against QPR in Nov 1970 because he blew for the final whistle as the shot was about to cross the line. Look at Eddie Colquhoun's face and shaking his head at Yates as if he is saying "stupid decision"

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Thanks for that, Silent. I don't think I'd ever seen that footage before.

As you say, I was right about the third goal in that it stemmed from a decision - unfathomable - by Eddie Colquhoun to try a back header from a long way out but, in my mind's eye, Clarke had done brilliantly to score. When you watch the clip, it's clear he didn't have to do much more than keep his head while Franks and Brown self-destructed.

It's a pity there's nothing in relation to our near misses of which there were many.

I went to that match in my dad's car which my older brother drove, having just passed his test. It was the first time we had been on the new stretch of the M1 which now went all the way through to Leeds. I think it was a Vauxhall Victor and on a quiet stretch he got it up to 100mph - it felt like it might blow up. Also in the car was my brother's friend, Andy Lodge, who went on to sign for Blackburn and who eventually became a significant player for Neil Warnock at Gainsborough - Warnock pays tribute to him at some length in his autobiography - plus a mate of mine from school who supported Newcastle and who came to the match on condition that in return I went with him to Elland Road when Newcastle were next there. I kept my word and Newcastle got stuffed, the same as us, Leeds won 3-0 with Duncan McKenzie absolutely tearing them apart.
 
Shalalalafenoughty said:
Thanks for that, Silent. I don't think I'd ever seen that footage before.

As you say, I was right about the third goal in that it stemmed from a decision - unfathomable - by Eddie Colquhoun to try a back header from a long way out but, in my mind's eye, Clarke had done brilliantly to score. When you watch the clip, it's clear he didn't have to do much more than keep his head while Franks and Brown self-destructed.

It's a pity there's nothing in relation to our near misses of which there were many.

I went to that match in my dad's car which my older brother drove, having just passed his test. It was the first time we had been on the new stretch of the M1 which now went all the way through to Leeds. I think it was a Vauxhall Victor and on a quiet stretch he got it up to 100mph - it felt like it might blow up. Also in the car was my brother's friend, Andy Lodge, who went on to sign for Blackburn and who eventually became a significant player for Neil Warnock at Gainsborough - Warnock pays tribute to him at some length in his autobiography - plus a mate of mine from school who supported Newcastle and who came to the match on condition that in return I went with him to Elland Road when Newcastle were next there. I kept my word and Newcastle got stuffed, the same as us, Leeds won 3-0 with Duncan McKenzie absolutely tearing them apart.
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FootballGaffesGalore's collection of "On this Day" youtube footage is really good. There maybe more Blades goals you have not seen for a long time.

Allan Clarke was a class player even though I didnt like him as he was playing for L**ds although I cheered for L**ds in the 1972 FA Cup final!

I went to Elland Road again in the following season (we were already relegated in March) and Woody's goal in our shock 1-0 win was memorable!
 
Silent Blade said:
FootballGaffesGalore's collection of "On this Day" youtube footage is really good. There maybe more Blades goals you have not seen for a long time.
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Thanks. I'd never seen this stuff but I'm working my way through the "on this day" clips and very interesting it is too.

It's striking that the older material - sixties and seventies, really - shows plenty of examples of fans applauding good play by the opposition. For example, a good proportion of Leeds fans can be seen clapping after a fine Sammy McIlroy goal for Manchester United at Elland Road in the mid-seventies. What are the chances of that happening now? At Bramall Lane during that period it was commonplace for flowing passing moves by the visitors to be quite loudly applauded by United fans and a good goal against us would be clapped instead of abuse being directed at the celebrating scorer.

I quite miss those days.
 
Shalalalafenoughty said:
Thanks. I'd never seen this stuff but I'm working my way through the "on this day" clips and very interesting it is too.

It's striking that the older material - sixties and seventies, really - shows plenty of examples of fans applauding good play by the opposition. For example, a good proportion of Leeds fans can be seen clapping after a fine Sammy McIlroy goal for Manchester United at Elland Road in the mid-seventies. What are the chances of that happening now? At Bramall Lane during that period it was commonplace for flowing passing moves by the visitors to be quite loudly applauded by United fans and a good goal against us would be clapped instead of abuse being directed at the celebrating scorer.

I quite miss those days.
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I remember Blades fans clapping John Mitchell's equaliser for Fulham in the 1-1 home draw in October 1976
 
Silent Blade said:
I remember Blades fans clapping John Mitchell's equaliser for Fulham in the 1-1 home draw in October 1976
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He tended to score spectacular goals. I managed to get a ticket for the previous year's FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough and stood on the Leppings Lane end among the Fulham fans right behind the net. Mitchell scored a with a fabulous volley from just outside the box to put them ahead.

The thing I most remember though about the day was the terrible crush and thinking to myself that they'd let too many in...
 



Shalalalafenoughty said:
He tended to score spectacular goals. I managed to get a ticket for the previous year's FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough and stood on the Leppings Lane end among the Fulham fans right behind the net. Mitchell scored a with a fabulous volley from just outside the box to put them ahead.

The thing I most remember though about the day was the terrible crush and thinking to myself that they'd let too many in...
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