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100% part time blade said:
Isn’t that pretty much exactly what was said at that press conference when Hecky became manager?
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They should re-run that presser announcing Hecky as football manager.
When we get promoted, it will be the excuse for not spending on players, and the next pre season being held in Cleethorpes.
Hecky will be told to get on with it, same squad as today, but without Ndiaye, Berge and a few others.
We need the money.

Academy upgrade, ground rebuilt, better training facilities. (Is that Norwich I hear cackling in the background)?
 



Charlieblade said:
They should re-run that presser announcing Hecky as football manager.
When we get promoted, it will be the excuse for not spending on players, and the next pre season being held in Cleethorpes.
Hecky will be told to get on with it, same squad as today, but without Ndiaye, Berge and a few others.
We need the money.

Academy upgrade, ground rebuilt, better training facilities. (Is that Norwich I hear cackling in the background)?
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You had me at 'pre season in Cleethorpes.' 😍
 
oh ye of little faith

what relegated us was covid
we need the crowds to lift our players
last prem visit with crowds 9th no crowd relegated
we cant afford the quality others can but have players who are lifted by the crowd to a competitive level

with 30000 voices urging you on you give that 10 per cent more and it was the difference as we lost most games by the odd goal
so unless there is another lockdown we will play better
 
robbiez666 said:
we need to buy next season regardless as we're running out of players, but I'd take a few sensible purchases with an eye to the Championship the following season.
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We need to rethink how we do it then because this was the strategy last time and we ended up with Freeman, (Callum) Robinson, Mousset and McBurnie. Only one is still here and he's been poor until earlier this season.

The problem last time was the good league placing in the first season, it caught everyone off guard, including our own manager and board. We then didn't have a clue how to repeat the same in the 2nd year. In my opinion we planned to go up, buy a few decent players from the Championship and come back down again, then have another go at promotion and keep repeating.

By staying up and doing well, the powers that be didn't have a clue what to do and in the first season started thinking Europe was actually possible (bought Berge), then thought we might do ok the 2nd season and after a poor start thought that we just needed to convert the chances (bought Brewster). The problem is that we were shit at the back with players like Kean Bryan in the squad and were not really creating chances going forward, so it was an absolute disaster.
 
derekacorah said:
We need to rethink how we do it then because this was the strategy last time and we ended up with Freeman, (Callum) Robinson, Mousset and McBurnie. Only one is still here and he's been poor until earlier this season.

The problem last time was the good league placing in the first season, it caught everyone off guard, including our own manager and board. We then didn't have a clue how to repeat the same in the 2nd year. In my opinion we planned to go up, buy a few decent players from the Championship and come back down again, then have another go at promotion and keep repeating.

By staying up and doing well, the powers that be didn't have a clue what to do and in the first season started thinking Europe was actually possible (bought Berge), then thought we might do ok the 2nd season and after a poor start thought that we just needed to convert the chances (bought Brewster). The problem is that we were shit at the back with players like Kean Bryan in the squad and were not really creating chances going forward, so it was an absolute disaster.
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Imagine having a premier league starting lineup consisting of kean Bryan and Ethan ampadu... Oh wait.. 🙈
 
derekacorah said:
We need to rethink how we do it then because this was the strategy last time and we ended up with Freeman, (Callum) Robinson, Mousset and McBurnie. Only one is still here and he's been poor until earlier this season.

The problem last time was the good league placing in the first season, it caught everyone off guard, including our own manager and board. We then didn't have a clue how to repeat the same in the 2nd year. In my opinion we planned to go up, buy a few decent players from the Championship and come back down again, then have another go at promotion and keep repeating.

By staying up and doing well, the powers that be didn't have a clue what to do and in the first season started thinking Europe was actually possible (bought Berge), then thought we might do ok the 2nd season and after a poor start thought that we just needed to convert the chances (bought Brewster). The problem is that we were shit at the back with players like Kean Bryan in the squad and were not really creating chances going forward, so it was an absolute disaster.
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we need to look at picking up players from the lower divisions but not at a premium. In the same way Brentford picked up Toney and we picked up Bogle/Lowe. That should be the strategy, not overpaying for EPL youth players or trying to sign overpriced Championship players.

We've been poor, as a club, for a long time, at signing the best young talent from down the leagues. If we go up and if the financial situation doesn't change, we need to be buying talent but talent that is reasonably priced. Loaning a few to bolster the first team and signing younger players to bolster the squad for the future.

If we do go up and get relegated, I expect to come down with a better squad than we went up with. Overall.

We were incredibly lucky last time we went up. If we'd had a normal amount of injuries we might have been fighting relegation in the first season. We had a good first team but outside of that the likes of Bryan, Rodwell etc.

My major concern, and it has been for a while now, is the lack of future planning. We've signed one permanent play in the last 4 windows (other than Davies). Which leaves us in a bad position to have a strong squad should we go up and fucked if we don't.

Senior players we own next season, currently, are:

Davies

Lowe, Baldock, Bogle, Egan, Basham, Anel

Berge

Brewster, Jebbison, Ndiaye

and some of those (including our most prized assets) will be in the last year of their contract and prime for plucking, so to speak). For instance, I would be far from surprised if Berge and Ndiaye don't push for a transfer in summer regardless of whether we go up or not).
 
^^^That sounds about right, but how come we scored so many this season with the same midfield?

(I blame McBurnie and Ndiaye for that. lol)
 
blade too long said:
oh ye of little faith

what relegated us was covid
we need the crowds to lift our players
last prem visit with crowds 9th no crowd relegated
we cant afford the quality others can but have players who are lifted by the crowd to a competitive level

with 30000 voices urging you on you give that 10 per cent more and it was the difference as we lost most games by the odd goal
so unless there is another lockdown we will play better
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Bullshit
30,000 of our fans makes everything worse, considering we are the worst fans in football

We could have afforded quality players
My list when we got promoted included Conor Gallagher, Ivan Toney, Jarod Bowen, Ollie Watkins, Ryan Sessignon, all at lower league clubs than us at the time.

Most of these could have been brought in for less than Berge, Brewster, Freeman Robinson and McBurnie at the time
 
We missed out on plenty of decent players because they chose to go to clubs with much better wage offers. IIRC Wilder wanted several players in the second PL season, but we (the board) could never compete with wages offered by other clubs.
 
JJBlade said:
Bullshit
30,000 of our fans makes everything worse, considering we are the worst fans in football

We could have afforded quality players
My list when we got promoted included Conor Gallagher, Ivan Toney, Jarod Bowen, Ollie Watkins, Ryan Sessignon, all at lower league clubs than us at the time.

Most of these could have been brought in for less than Berge, Brewster, Freeman Robinson and McBurnie at the time
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I'm with you.

I read that our fans are shit and the atmosphere at BDTBL is rubbish, yet not having fans got us relegated. Which one is it?

Why did other clubs not get relegated without fans?! Are our fans better than theirs? Did our kop score a few goals pre-covid that I missed?!

I will say that covid and the lack of fans had an impact on our performances, but the reason we got relegated is because we were worse than the other teams who finished above us. Fuck all the 'fine margins' bollocks, we were abject for most of the season because we had Kean Bryan, Ollie Burke and other assembled shit players in our first team (yes I know they scored at Man U!).

I'm also still waiting for Sessegnon to sign after Sunjihi said he would, I hope Koos takes over more expediently than Sessegnon signs!
 
Nightsweats said:
They were/are on a roll. We have finally been found out. Emperors New Clothes.
If we were "doing a Boro" the place would be rocking. Our fans are no different to any others, other than having been let down countless times at the last minute. Blame the management, not the loyal long suffering supporters!
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Agree, the club, atmosphere, is just like it was before Chris Wilder came through the door.Perhaps the performances are better now,but the total lack of communication between the board and fans is worse,abysmal .
 
derekacorah said:
I'm with you.

I read that our fans are shit and the atmosphere at BDTBL is rubbish, yet not having fans got us relegated. Which one is it?

Why did other clubs not get relegated without fans?! Are our fans better than theirs? Did our kop score a few goals pre-covid that I missed?!

I will say that covid and the lack of fans had an impact on our performances, but the reason we got relegated is because we were worse than the other teams who finished above us. Fuck all the 'fine margins' bollocks, we were abject for most of the season because we had Kean Bryan, Ollie Burke and other assembled shit players in our first team (yes I know they scored at Man U!).

I'm also still waiting for Sessegnon to sign after Sunjihi said he would, I hope Koos takes over more expediently than Sessegnon signs!
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Yes, and we also battered Chelsea and Spurs without out fans too

But there has to be an excuse, there always is.

Truth is, for a relatively large club, and we are a large club with potential to be much bigger (before the know your place mob arrive) the various boardrooms we've had have not been interested a toss in moving the club forward, preferring to stand still and letting every other dog have its day instead of us.
 



ancientblade said:
weve got about 2k fans singing and supporting the team and about 25k fans just sitting there quietly and reserved know the performances have been poor but its about time our fans got the lane rocking again starting saturday ps boro will lose at the hawthorns saturday 😉
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Yeah, Boro are in shocking form FFS.
 
HVR said:
Well I'm super depressed after reading a couple of threads in the last 30 minutes - seems it could go 2 ways:
1) Blow our lead over Middlesbrough, become a national laughing stock, half the players leave, relegation to League One, and finally administration.
2) Get promoted ro PL, but lose every game, become a national laughing stock, relegation, sell all the best players, relegation to League One the season after, and finally administration.
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I've said it no end of times, Sheffield United and that other shower down the road are Premier League clubs in everything but position.

Uniteds enemy is Sheffield itself, and especially the City Council who will keep chipping away at us until they destroy us.

I've had to dial down and dilute my opinion of where I think United should be and where they belong.

50 years ago I'd have said being out of the top flight was not acceptable, even though we got relegated numerous times we were still generally and in the main a top flight club, having spent a sizeable portion of our preceeding 70-80 years there.

Now I'm happy to go up, bank most of the cash, go down, make good use of the parachute payments, and go back up again.

I'm happy for the club to keep doing this forever, or at least until we have major infrastructure change.

That infrastructure change can only come by going up and staying up, or going up and down for the next 10 years or so
 
Bell4 said:
Tell you where I stand

I have been going through the turnstile since September 1970 - what a time to start my journey -

From 1975 I have had a season ticket and have attended home and away , as have many , my two kids also had season tickets for many years . They don’t now .

Over that time we have played witness to some good times , many woeful times and two truly great times (1970/5 team and Wilders stunning team of 2019 /20)

You tend not to follow Utd and have many great expectations of winning an overwhelming amount of games

However , if we do fk up this year I have told myself that I will not go again . And I mean it .

To self destruct from the position we were in is tantamount to self harming on a scale I haven’t witnessed before .
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I've been going since 1968 + I understand your decision.
No point rehearsing all the devastating blows suffered in my 55 years as a Blade but suffice it to say that the rise under Wilder 2017-20 felt like a miraculous payback.
When we survived the first PL season , I could almost believe that we might become a PL club for real.
But then the loss of JoC and the disappointing contributions of the various expensive signings dumped us back down.
Another playoff failure was quickly followed by an unexpected ride at 2nd in the league with a large points gap over 3rd.
However , the revelation that we were so skint we couldn't afford to pay transfer instalments , nor strengthen in January smacks of inept financial management.
If we miss promotion this season , which we all know is a shit or bust season , we are truly a club run by idiots which needs to get ready for a long agonising self inflicted slide.
One slide too far , for me.
So many factors have come along in my half century of support to turn me off professional football , but I've allowed my Blades loyalty to outweigh them and keep me at the Lane.
Whether it can survive the club chucking away promotion is debatable.
 
Keen Blade said:
I've been going since 1968 + I understand your decision.
No point rehearsing all the devastating blows suffered in my 55 years as a Blade but suffice it to say that the rise under Wilder 2017-20 felt like a miraculous payback.
When we survived the first PL season , I could almost believe that we might become a PL club for real.
But then the loss of JoC and the disappointing contributions of the various expensive signings dumped us back down.
Another playoff failure was quickly followed by an unexpected ride at 2nd in the league with a large points gap over 3rd.
However , the revelation that we were so skint we couldn't afford to pay transfer instalments , nor strengthen in January smacks of inept financial management.
If we miss promotion this season , which we all know is a shit or bust season , we are truly a club run by idiots which needs to get ready for a long agonising self inflicted slide.
One slide too far , for me.
So many factors have come along in my half century of support to turn me off professional football , but I've allowed my Blades loyalty to outweigh them and keep me at the Lane.
Whether it can survive the club chucking away promotion is debatable.
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Bang on
 
Keen Blade said:
I've been going since 1968 + I understand your decision.
No point rehearsing all the devastating blows suffered in my 55 years as a Blade but suffice it to say that the rise under Wilder 2017-20 felt like a miraculous payback.
When we survived the first PL season , I could almost believe that we might become a PL club for real.
But then the loss of JoC and the disappointing contributions of the various expensive signings dumped us back down.
Another playoff failure was quickly followed by an unexpected ride at 2nd in the league with a large points gap over 3rd.
However , the revelation that we were so skint we couldn't afford to pay transfer instalments , nor strengthen in January smacks of inept financial management.
If we miss promotion this season , which we all know is a shit or bust season , we are truly a club run by idiots which needs to get ready for a long agonising self inflicted slide.
One slide too far , for me.
So many factors have come along in my half century of support to turn me off professional football , but I've allowed my Blades loyalty to outweigh them and keep me at the Lane.
Whether it can survive the club chucking away promotion is debatable.
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I think we'll survive not getting promoted to the Prem, but 2nd place, 4 points clear with a game in hand has got to be worse than the 4th division days I imagine.
 
Chazzer said:
The other problem in our second PL season was the absence of Jack O'Connell. Not just his ability was missed but the whole style of play of the team was badly disrupted. Such a shame he is unlikely to make a comeback.
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I've thought this for a long time. The whole LH side seemed to fall apart. Fleck and Stevens suffered to a large extent due to his loss. There was little or no attacking threat down that side so the opposition could concentrate on nullifying any threat and or overloads we created down the right.
 
Keen Blade said:
I've been going since 1968 + I understand your decision.
No point rehearsing all the devastating blows suffered in my 55 years as a Blade but suffice it to say that the rise under Wilder 2017-20 felt like a miraculous payback.
When we survived the first PL season , I could almost believe that we might become a PL club for real.
But then the loss of JoC and the disappointing contributions of the various expensive signings dumped us back down.
Another playoff failure was quickly followed by an unexpected ride at 2nd in the league with a large points gap over 3rd.
However , the revelation that we were so skint we couldn't afford to pay transfer instalments , nor strengthen in January smacks of inept financial management.
If we miss promotion this season , which we all know is a shit or bust season , we are truly a club run by idiots which needs to get ready for a long agonising self inflicted slide.
One slide too far , for me.
So many factors have come along in my half century of support to turn me off professional football , but I've allowed my Blades loyalty to outweigh them and keep me at the Lane.
Whether it can survive the club chucking away promotion is debatable.
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One slide too far for me too.

If United somehow blow this promotion I'm done

I will finally realise that this torment will never end unless I end it.

It shouldn't be so difficult for me to be honest, I've fallen out with them before, and stayed away for years at a time only to fall back into it whenever they showed a miniscule amount of promise.

I was one of the "bigger Blade than thou mob" when I was younger, you could say I was one of the best 6500 Blades ever when things got as bad as they possibly could, but I can pick and choose whether to go or not nowadays.

What I can't give up is total involvement with the club in some way, internet, TV, radio,

But if they blow this promotion it is my intention to try to completely deny their existence for as long as I've got left.

I think that time will be longer without them
 



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