Wolves fan view of the game

[super_pig]

I'd not want us to change our philosophy, but the only way to take Wolves on is to park the bus and break. We boxed like Hatton vs Mayweather. No disgrace, but we were outclassed.

great analogy
i'd have to add that the Wolves players in general had much more class than the Villa players.. no diving.. moaning.. trying to ref the game.. sneaky challenges

 

[super_pig]

Easy to be magnanimous when your team have just won, saw none of this when we beat you at our ground. On that day we outplayed you and would have won no matter if you had 12 of 10 men on the pitch. The difference now is that we have had our most influential midfielder crocked for the season, and our manager seems to have lost it. Sharp and Donaldson dropped for the abject Wilson. I reckon wilder is on commission to play him (not really but you get my drift). Also how the hell does Duffy get dropped and is not even deemed worthy of a sub appearance? Hes been amazing all season. Its like wilder has football manager game syndrome, when you get new players in and start them all straight away cos you cant wait to see them play..then no matter how crap they are you keep playing em. All wilder needed to do was make sure we had a coutts replacement and then one more midfielder. No need for wilson. Soooo..thats why wolves beat us so handily. And no I wasnt overly impressed with them at all.Expected more from a team who have spent so much. Can someone also explain the financial fair rules to me as well pls

heh. nice try. just hold your hands up mate.. we got dicked. it's easy once you get used to it. it happens.

 

[Blade58]

Fair assessment but you have spent around £60m FFS

Makes you wonder how the fk this FFP bollox works when a club with similar gates and possibly similar revenue streams can go out and spend £60m on players and who knows what else on salaries?

Makes a mockery of it all

 

[essexblade73]

heh. nice try. just hold your hands up mate.. we got dicked. it's easy once you get used to it. it happens.

We got dicked because for some reason our mgr has fcked with the team cohesion. We played liked a swiss clock until a few weeks ago, we now play like a 40 year old Sekonda. That loss was our doing not because we played some fckin wonder team. Stop blowing smoke up their arses.

 

[Yamyam]

Another wolves fan here. I tried registering before the first game but took ages to approve so to start with congrats on out playing us at the lane, your still the only team who has beaten us this year playing football.

You guys remind me of us when we got promoted from league one under kenny jacket, some players who are top end championship players and a lot of average/lower end players who for most of the season have played with confidence in their ability and way above the level most would of expected at the start of the season.

Unfortunately I think you will do what we did that year and just miss out on the play offs. This summer looks massive for you as whoever doesn’t go up out of villa and Derby will need to sell to balance the books and they both have ageing squads and apart from West Brom the teams most likely to come down at the minute look a mess off the pitch and could struggle in the championship. If you can get coutts back playing the way he was before being injured and few higher quality signings in the summer can see you challenging for autos next year.

Good luck the rest of the season

 

[super_pig]

We got dicked because for some reason our mgr has fcked with the team cohesion. We played liked a swiss clock until a few weeks ago, we now play like a 40 year old Sekonda. That loss was our doing not because we played some fckin wonder team. Stop blowing smoke up their arses.

count to ten pal and stop being such a mardy arse one. two

 

[Grappler]

We were beaten fair and square. Yes, you can argue that Wilson doesn't deserve a start, and Donaldson would have been a much better choice, and you can argue that Duffy should have started maybe, but at the end of the day, we were beaten by a team that are 11 points clear of second place.

Wolves have been up and down all four divisions, like us, and are having their moment of glory, they won't stumble and fall away.

To the Wolves fans on here (at least two of you on this thread), Birmingham put three past the pigs yesterday at the Sty, surely you can do better when you play them near the end of the season?

 

[Yamyam]

One thing to add is we have spent around £10 million net this season and are only the 4th highest spenders this year. Also regarding ffp we are not even close to breaking it as it’s over a 3 year cycle and owners are allowed to put in £8 million a year and then loses have to be less than £39 million. The first year of the cycle we made a profit of £8 million mainly down to still having parachute payments that year and selling afobe for £10. So in theory we are allowed to lose £63 million last year and this year combined.

 

[essexblade73]

count to ten pal and stop being such a mardy arse one. two

Mardy arse? Realist more like. Will give credit to other teams when its due. This loss was of our own making and nothing to do with how good they supposedly are. Bet youre the type who clapped their first goal..

 

[JohnDenver]

One thing to add is we have spent around £10 million net this season and are only the 4th highest spenders this year. Also regarding ffp we are not even close to breaking it as it’s over a 3 year cycle and owners are allowed to put in £8 million a year and then loses have to be less than £39 million. The first year of the cycle we made a profit of £8 million mainly down to still having parachute payments that year and selling afobe for £10. So in theory we are allowed to lose £63 million last year and this year combined.

You’ve spent £10m but missed out on Jordan Rhodes? You must be gutted.

 

[DaveBassettsgoneonholiday]

Well I'm laying all the blame squarely on the pitch.
How fuckin big did it look watching it on the box ?
..... if this doesn't make the Wolves equivalent of "view from" I'll be gutted.

 

[super_pig]

Mardy arse? Realist more like. Will give credit to other teams when its due. This loss was of our own making and nothing to do with how good they supposedly are. Bet youre the type who clapped their first goal..

heh.. wind yer neck in.. just admit the obvious like most on here have.. it takes balls though.. actually i said 'not again'..

 

[Fanny magnet]

That’s real commitment to feigning injury. Of course, there’s no way he could have actually been injured

You're gullible and naive enough to make a top championship ref

 

[Esablade]

One thing to add is we have spent around £10 million net this season and are only the 4th highest spenders this year. Also regarding ffp we are not even close to breaking it as it’s over a 3 year cycle and owners are allowed to put in £8 million a year and then loses have to be less than £39 million. The first year of the cycle we made a profit of £8 million mainly down to still having parachute payments that year and selling afobe for £10. So in theory we are allowed to lose £63 million last year and this year combined.

Where do you think it’s gone right for the new owners? As we can see across the city ( and elsewhere in this league) it’s not simply a case of chucking a shed load of money at it...

We’ve had one or two ‘debates’ ( ) on here about the pro’s and cons of wanting a mega-rich owner and chucking loads of money at it against keeping a more modest level of investment with a local fan as owner.

 

[Fanny magnet]

One thing to add is we have spent around £10 million net this season and are only the 4th highest spenders this year. Also regarding ffp we are not even close to breaking it as it’s over a 3 year cycle and owners are allowed to put in £8 million a year and then loses have to be less than £39 million. The first year of the cycle we made a profit of £8 million mainly down to still having parachute payments that year and selling afobe for £10. So in theory we are allowed to lose £63 million last year and this year combined.

Where do you get your figures from ?
Do you not pay wages ?

 

[Grappler]

Where do you think it’s gone right for the new owners? As we can see across the city ( and elsewhere in this league) it’s not simply a case of chucking a shed load of money at it...

We’ve had one or two ‘debates’ ( ) on here about the pro’s and cons of wanting a mega-rich owner and chucking loads of money at it against keeping a more modest level of investment with a local fan as owner.

The trick is getting the right players and creating a "team".

Did you see the Blades bit on yesterdays football focus? (lunch time, BBC1), the female presenter/interview repeatedly said that the atmosphere on the training ground was very different, more like a gang of best mates enjoying time together. She asked CW how he had created it. Good piece and showed us in a very good light.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Wolves were very, very good last night, as good a performance against us in a long time. It’s strangely comforting to know that’s their best performance of the season. They will sail through from here.

We need a good win against Leeds to get going again.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

Mardy arse? Realist more like. Will give credit to other teams when its due. This loss was of our own making and nothing to do with how good they supposedly are. Bet youre the type who clapped their first goal..

If you can't give Wolves any credit for that performance then when can you give any team credit?

 

[stringer]

You're gullible and naive enough to make a top championship ref

Better than believing a player would go off with an injury if he wasn’t injured

 

[BushBlade]

We got dicked because for some reason our mgr has fcked with the team cohesion. We played liked a swiss clock until a few weeks ago, we now play like a 40 year old Sekonda. That loss was our doing not because we played some fckin wonder team. Stop blowing smoke up their arses.

We haven't played like a Swiss clock since we lost Coutts. There is no direct replacement for him. Our players were playing out of their skins for the first couple of months and it's not sustainable over a full season. We saw that under Warnock in the PL when players who'd done well started to drop off. Everyone has since slated Warnock for not strengthening properly.
No one was saying Wilder had lost it when we beat Norwich a couple of weeks ago.

We've lost two games against teams that are better on paper than us, during a period when we're integrating the new players.

Even when we were winning, in a lot of games we still created a lot of half chances and dominated possession without creating enough clear chances or scoring enough, we just got the rub of the green and managed to find enough quality to get a goal from somewhere. For example Leeds away where we only managed to score once, despite having a lot of the play, before conceding an equaliser. If it wasn't for Brooks and Duffy providing one bit of quality we'd have come away with a draw. Let's not pretend that one minute we were Barcelona and now we're Chesterfield.

 

[Maidenhead]

Very good - one of the best visitor posts I can remember. I suppose in some respects it may be easier to be so decent about things when your side looked like Wolves did last night .
You were mightily impressive though. Pace, power, skill, teamwork, threat - all there for everyone to see. Like others have said, on that performance you’re a mid-Table Prem team playing in the wrong league with your assembled talent & wealth.
Good luck though Jonathan.

In fairness to the vast majority of Wolves fans they were equally magnanimous when they did a similar job on us in the 2003 play off final.

Like us they have a few knobs that have caused us bother but I have full respect for most of them.

 

[Yamyam]

Where do you think it’s gone right for the new owners? As we can see across the city ( and elsewhere in this league) it’s not simply a case of chucking a shed load of money at it...

We’ve had one or two ‘debates’ ( ) on here about the pro’s and cons of wanting a mega-rich owner and chucking loads of money at it against keeping a more modest level of investment with a local fan as owner.

To put it simple they are probably the smartest owners in British football. They started looking for a club 2 years before they brought us and their first move was buying a 20% stake in Mendes agency and hired him to find the perfect club for them. We happened to be lucky as we had made profit the year before they could spend big with us without breaking ffp. The original plan was for the now Spanish manger Julen Lopetegui to be our manager but the take over got delayed until 2 weeks before the season and he had decided to take the Spanish job by this point. Thats when they first approached nuno to come who had just been appointed Porto boss and he said he couldn’t leave Porto at that point but it was agreed then that he would become our manager the season after. Last season was write off before it started as the take over happened so late and plan a and b manger had fallen through.

This season they had a full summer and appointed nuno just after the season finished signed players to fit his system not just big money foreign players but cheap British players as well. Our back 6 yesterday cost a total of 3 million in transfer fees. Then lowered ticket prices at the start of season to get molineux full I think our first 6 home games all had ticket offers on to make sure the ground was as close to capacity as it can be. They also rejected all sky games until the villa game to make sure the ground was full as possible.

The biggest difference between fosun and other foreign owners in the championship is they appoint the right people in the right roles and let them get on with doing there job with no interference from them. The new ceo they appointed has got the fans back on side after the trust issues we had with moxey. Nuno is probably the best manager the championship has seen. Kevin thewell our DOF is brilliant at signing talented kids so is left to do that side of the recruitment while Mendes the biggest agent in football deals with our marquee signings which with his inside info he gets is generally a lot cheaper than the going rate.

The big money signing we have made so far have all been players who will most likely only go up in market value neves £15 million will probably be worth £50 million if he does what he has done this year in the prem £7 million cav £13 costa jota fee is agreed at £12 million in the summer compare that to villa or the other Sheffield club who signed the likes of McCormack and Rhodes for similar fees who’s value was never going to go up and you see that they are smart when they spend the big money and aren’t just blowing money they are investing it.

 

[Fanny magnet]

Better than believing a player would go off with an injury if he wasn’t injured

He did

 

[DanBates]

Easy to be magnanimous when your team have just won, saw none of this when we beat you at our ground. On that day we outplayed you and would have won no matter if you had 12 of 10 men on the pitch. The difference now is that we have had our most influential midfielder crocked for the season, and our manager seems to have lost it. Sharp and Donaldson dropped for the abject Wilson. I reckon wilder is on commission to play him (not really but you get my drift). Also how the hell does Duffy get dropped and is not even deemed worthy of a sub appearance? Hes been amazing all season. Its like wilder has football manager game syndrome, when you get new players in and start them all straight away cos you cant wait to see them play..then no matter how crap they are you keep playing em. All wilder needed to do was make sure we had a coutts replacement and then one more midfielder. No need for wilson. Soooo..thats why wolves beat us so handily. And no I wasnt overly impressed with them at all.Expected more from a team who have spent so much. Can someone also explain the financial fair rules to me as well pls

Salt with your salt?

 

[stringer]

He did

Sure

 

[essexblade73]

Salt with your salt?

Ky with that orange/gold dildo you like sucking?

 

[Jonathan Evans]

In fairness to the vast majority of Wolves fans they were equally magnanimous when they did a similar job on us in the 2003 play off final.

Like us they have a few knobs that have caused us bother but I have full respect for most of them.

I think you'll find that most Wolves fans have a grudging respect for the Blades because the simlarities between us as fans are probably greater than the differences. We both follow relatively big clubs with long histories and traditions located right in the heart of the city that they represent. Unfortunately we are also both well accustomed to travelling with big support to away games and often being met by underachievement and failure. We know what we are and the respect is there across the football divide when we see it in others, in the same way that we have more respect for Sunderland and Portsmouth fans than we do for Reading or other out of town clubs.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Cant wait for us to play Fulham away

Thanks for your honest appraisal of the game Jonathan Evans

 

[Elsecar_Blade]

First of all, not here to gloat or anything, but just wanted to give a Wolves perspective on events tonight.

I was sat close to your support and it seemed very subdued right from the start, Impressive turnout for an away game on tv, but didn't really offer any vocal support for the team which I thought was surprising. As for events on the pitch, that was our best performance of this season (and many other seasons) by miles and you were very unlucky to catch us in that mood today. We would have beaten anyone today and you should see the Blades' performance in that context.

I was very impressed with Holmes. I don't know much about him but he covered a lot of ground and looked your most dangerous outlet and was always trying to get forward. Similarly I thought Baldock played well and put in some good challenges. No surprise that they both went off as both put in a proper shift. Your interpassing from midfield and the back was fine and you had a lot more possession in the first half than a lot of teams that we have faced at home. I thought where you struggled was by not getting tight on our three forwards who were able to turn and run at you at will and also by not cutting out the long diagonal balls to the wingbacks which allowed them to get dangerous crosses in. Also there seemed to be a lack of penetration up front - I didn't see Wilson touch the ball and Clarke didn't really bring your midfield into the game.

One other comment, no yellow cards for either side and it was good to see you trying to play football. A lot of teams have set out to just kick us this season and Wilder can take credit for setting you out to play in a hard, but fair way. Game over, just move on. I saw a couple of comments from other posters who said keep doing what you are doing and just tweak it a little. Spot on I would say. This league is a marathon and you are still very much in it. Good luck for the rest of season. .

Fair assessment and us Blades fans need to take account of what you're saying there. Wolves have spent huge sums of money, are by a long way the best team in the division AND that was, according to Jonathan, the best they've played in a long time. Whilst we know we have some issues within our team, a 3-0 defeat at Wolves in the current situation is no need for panic. Most of our rivals will still have to face them and will, in all likelihood, get a similar result to us.

I didn't head down to Molineux but the level of vocal support from the Blades was probably not helped by the fifth minute worldie into the top corner of our net. As soon as that happened, I was subdued at home - couldn't see a situation where we could (a) keep Wolves out for the remaining 85 minutes and (b) nick a goal of our own - whilst the game wasn't over, it felt like it was going to be a long night. Once it went to 2-0, I was only half-watching the match as it was all over and I suspect the United fans struggled to keep positive after that. United actually deserve a lot of credit for keeping the score down. After 2-0, we got into the game a little and got some control of the ball, there wasn't much in the game - granted, Wolves maybe sat back content to wait for the counter opportunity - but we never looked like pulling one back. The third, unlucky deflection, and then we stood firm with a man less and kept it at 3-0. It's never nice to lose or to lose by 3 but you can forgive the team this one considering the opposition performance.

Sad thing for me is the number of negative posters who want to jump on little faults and slag the team off once again. We are not supposed to be in contention for the Play Offs, we're struggling a little at the moment but we're well ahead of expectations. I know that many will have got giddy when we were top of the league in October but it's reality that our budget has proved our Achilles heel. If Wolves' star midfielder was injured, they probably have a 90% quality replacement. We replaced Coutts with Lundstram and now we're trying to settle a League 1 midfielder or Wolves' reserve midfielder (who had been playing in League 1) into his place instead. Anybody that honestly expects us to compete against the finances of Wolves, Aston Villa - even Boro' and Wednesday, Leeds and Fulham - needs to take a reality check. We can't. That's a question for our owners but it should not be used to criticise Wilder and his team. We can hope to compete with these teams - and indeed, we are doing for the majority - but we cannot expect to. We're shopping in Aldi, Villa are shopping in Waitrose and Wolves are shopping in Harrods - eventually, you're going to be able to tell the difference.

It's clear that we need to upgrade the quality of our team but that, in our financial situation, will take time. We need to nurture the likes of Brooks, find unpolished diamonds - as the likes of O'Connell, Fleck and Baldock are proving to be - and spend what money we have on quality where possible. Our big summer signing was Richard Stearman - let go by Wolves and now Fulham in recent years. We are challenging these teams but we are taking players they have deemed not quite good enough for them. I'm still hopeful that the Prince might prove to be capable of providing a little more investment but if he doesn't, we're kind of in Ipswich territory where we need to keep blooding and nurturing our own youngsters, pick up bargains and hope that our manager can make up the shortfall to hang on to contending at the top end. To get to a point where we expect to challenge and compete, it's going to take investment from somewhere - or a Wilder miracle.

We are what we are until the summer. We're punching above our weight, we've got a chance to get back in contention over the next month or so and we've got to back them. Yes, Moore and Blackman probably need upgrading to push for promotion, yes we need a dominant central defender, yes we need some quality at the top end of the pitch but we have got what we have got for the next four months. Criticism of players - undeserved in many situations considering their part in getting us up and getting us in contention in the first place - is not going to help. We have a unity about the club right now and hammering the players will damage that.

 

[Kenilworth]

It could have been worse