Bladesway
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I wouldn't care if he left because each and every time I have seen him he has been rubbish. Not in a run 100 mph and cant pass the ball rubbish but just disinterested and all in crap.
With McCall and Robison saying no...
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I wouldn't care if he left because each and every time I have seen him he has been rubbish. Not in a run 100 mph and cant pass the ball rubbish but just disinterested and all in crap.
Bladesway
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Why do we have to accept it?
GRUMPY BLADE
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davidpinder
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because we can do nothing about it.
davidpinder
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its because he is the only option left.
sheffielder
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I wonder if it may be a Morgan/Hodges double act. I was more hoping for Jacket and Hodges but being realistic I think it's between Morgan and Southgate with Hodges a swing vote for the main job or someone's assistant
Latters
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Unfortunately I cannot see it being anybody other than Morgan at the moment. I would like it to turn out like it has for Powell at Charlton, but looking at how he got on last season, I really wouldn't bank on it.
Now that Robinson and McCall have backed out, I look down the list on the betting websites and don't see one name that I'd be even remotely satisfied with at lower odds than about 40/1.
I think most of us have now accepted that we are, once again, going to balls up our managerial appointment, so I wish we'd just hurry up and get on with it. I'm very bored now.
It's coming to something where the thread from the Rumours section has gone from "Who the fuck is Graham Arnold?" To "Graham Arnold? Yes, I like the sound of that, he's probably the best option." I'm sat looking out of my office window now thinking, if I were him, would I leave a comfortable job in Australia to come to this, and to be chastised for problems that lie far deeper than my own reach? Nah, I'll give it a miss, too, thanks.
It's shambolic.
Now that Robinson and McCall have backed out, I look down the list on the betting websites and don't see one name that I'd be even remotely satisfied with at lower odds than about 40/1.
I think most of us have now accepted that we are, once again, going to balls up our managerial appointment, so I wish we'd just hurry up and get on with it. I'm very bored now.
It's coming to something where the thread from the Rumours section has gone from "Who the fuck is Graham Arnold?" To "Graham Arnold? Yes, I like the sound of that, he's probably the best option." I'm sat looking out of my office window now thinking, if I were him, would I leave a comfortable job in Australia to come to this, and to be chastised for problems that lie far deeper than my own reach? Nah, I'll give it a miss, too, thanks.
It's shambolic.
Jonboy60
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Who makes these odds up for fucks sake, Ian holloway 66/1, more like 3 million to 1.
SouthEssexBlade
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A name that hasn't been linked, which surprises me given the job he's done on a nothing budget, bringing through kids and generally being seen as a new wave progressive young manager is Paul Tisdale at Exeter City. Unlikely at this stage to be in the reckoning but a bit of an eyebrow lifter that he was never considered.
Pinchy
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I agree we do, but as well as, rather than instead of.
I don't think we're going to agree here, are we?
That's odd, because I agree with both of you. K-Mac ought to be my type of footballer, but he is wasting a genuine talent. He needs to get properly fit and add a bit of commitment. Not Maestroesque aimless shadow-chasing, but a real determination to get on the ball and dictate the game and less half-hearted challenges when play breaks down.
sheffielder
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You have to wonder how deluded us fans are. First it was Robinson and nobody else, then when he was out of the running it was McCall and nobody else. Who the fuck do we think we are? We have no money, the job spec went out there and we are now looking for someone with the bottle to take this on because at the end of the day this could be someone's only chance or last chance to have a job in management. We need to think outside the box and get someone to unite that dressing room and make them hungry for the new season.
More importantly, the fans need to unite behind whatever happens because it could go belly up after this
davidpinder
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its probably because so many strange things happen in football and nothing comes as a surprise anymore, you might pick up a paper tomorrow to find Holloway has been sacked because palace want a "big" name to keep them in the prem next season. Won't happen i know but stranger things have happened.
Judging Morgs, based on his track recored is short sighted.
His track record was based on a pressurised run-in of 5 games ( + 2 play-off games ) with an existing squad that he had no time to alter.
And I still maintain that the Reffereeing of the Brentford game with Maguire sent off and then missing from the next 2 games , had a huge influence on the final outcome.
Even then if that prawn of a ref. in the first leg against Yeovil had been anything like decent we would have gone into that second leg game, 2 - 0 up & them without their centre half ( he should have been sent-off ).
We really have no idea how Morgan will recruit, and what his playing style will be, with a different squad, and a whole season infront of him.
But hey, why let common sense get in the way of slagging everyone off . It's far easier to be negative.
His track record was based on a pressurised run-in of 5 games ( + 2 play-off games ) with an existing squad that he had no time to alter.
And I still maintain that the Reffereeing of the Brentford game with Maguire sent off and then missing from the next 2 games , had a huge influence on the final outcome.
Even then if that prawn of a ref. in the first leg against Yeovil had been anything like decent we would have gone into that second leg game, 2 - 0 up & them without their centre half ( he should have been sent-off ).
We really have no idea how Morgan will recruit, and what his playing style will be, with a different squad, and a whole season infront of him.
But hey, why let common sense get in the way of slagging everyone off . It's far easier to be negative.
Anybody not thought like I do ,that McCall realises the job is beyond him and he now becomes more popular at Motherwell. He did a crap job at Bradford ,especially in comparison to Parkinson ,he is now managing at a club whre he cant really fail in a proper mickey mouse league. I didnt want him at all ,however I want Boothroyd even less.
I think Morgan burnt his bridges with a lot of fans with his interview after the game. I would like to see him stay ,he knows the players and I believe is a good defensive coach ,but as a number 2.
Latters
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Our club make it easier to be negative though, that's the problem. Fans react to what they've seen before.
I wasn't just basing it on the results at the end of the season. Other than Swindon, the performances were terrible, especially in the play off games. I also understand he's done nothing of note with the youth or development team whilst he's been in charge. He was also a coach throughout our most recent unspectacular season.
This is without a doubt one of the most important managerial appointments in our club's recent history (with the other notable one being Warnock's successor, and we know how we bollocksed that up as well). I don't think it's the time to give somebody the job just because they played for us and were quite passionate when they did.
As a player, Morgan didn't exactly come across as a great thinker and philosopher of the game and he was probably one of the last people you would have expected to become a manager. I appreciate that any managerial appointment represents a risk, but you can minimise that risk by at least taking on somebody who has proved before that they might have the faintest idea what they are doing.
sheffielder
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I think if it is Morgan he needs someone with a bit of personality as his number 2, someone to connect the players and Morgan
Latters
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It's looking less and less likely that we are able to tempt people to be our manager, I doubt playing second fiddle to our former captain will be a much more attractive role.
sheffielder
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Why is everyone assuming that Morgan is going to be the assistant. He was promoted to Interim manager from coach. If someone gets the job then surely Morgan would go back to being that. We don't owe him or his 'fantastic professionals' anything at this time
Latters
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Who is assuming he's going to be the assistant? You said that if he was the manager he would need somebody good as his assistant. I said that if we were struggling to find a manager, we're likely to struggle even more to find a good assistant willing to work under Morgs.
sheffielder
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Sorry Latters, I was mean't to be replying to someone else who said people have turned us down because they would have to have Morgan as assistant.
Bladesway
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Agreed but I believe McCabes 8 ball said it had to be a bloke with two first names so its either Graham Arnold or Chris Morgan. All other bets are off.
Pinchy
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Great. Let's appoint someone because we have no idea what he will do! Certainly opens up the field. Why choose Morgan from the thousand of others who fit that bill?
Oh no!! I've just realised. I think I know what the reply will be! Please excuse me whilst I despair in advance.
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Just because we didn't get our first choice, that doesn't mean we have to panic and take the easy option.
Looking down the betting list, Jackett, Davis, Coyle, Arnold, Wilder, Barker, Slade, Tisdale and John Hughes would all be better, more experienced, more proven options than Chris Morgan.
You're not telling me we can't persuade at least one of those to take on our job, even when they're correctly being warned in advance of the the restrictions they'll face. Most of them are currently unemployed or facing worse restrictions with their current clubs.
People are dismissing Kenny Jackett because he's too old. He's 51, only 3 years older than McCall.
Or they're saying that he will choose Wolves over us. Well if he did then we can still go for one of their other (alleged) targets Davis or Coyle. Wolves can only appoint ONE manager.
Wilder, Barker, Slade, Tisdale and Hughes all have experience and good knowledge of the lower leagues.
Arnold would be a strange one given the criteria the board have set out but I'd still rather have him in charge than Morgan, possibly with Morgs as his number two.
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