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I also don't eat every slice of 50/50 in Morrisons when I need a loaf of bread, I use my eyesight, reading ability and experience to tell me that, yes, that is bread, without requiring a sample.

Amazing stuff.
Yet you know how it tastes without actually, y’know, eating it?
 




Say what you will about Levy not providing funds for players but he's ahead of most Clubs when it comes to an innovative business model. Spurs are expected to take £17.5 million this year from food and drink sales alone. They have a number of exclusive restaurants and have made match day a day out for all the family in a modern stadium that has got the whole of the premier league re thinking their stadium designs.

As others have said the scramble from our fans for tickets indicates its the stadium away fans want to visit. We could learn a lot from their ticket exchange system but off the field we are light years away from the systems Spurs have put in place that would enable us to generate additional revenue.

The down sides have been listed by Another Spur you have to attract the tourists which affects atmosphere as well as the astronomical costs. Our restrictive ticketing policy currently doesn't even lend itself to attracting new fans.

Unfortunately its the way you have to go to be consistently a top performer in the Premier League. It will be interesting to read our fans views of the stadium post match.
 
Really? They get 25k more punters and haven’t increased revenue?

No, their match day revenue in 2017-18 (£25m) was lower than it was in their last season at Upton Park (£27m)

West Ham don't get any catering income though.
 
The majority of STs cost between £1000-1200 but range from a few at £800 (only if you are an adult attending with a child) to £2200 for 'premium lite'.

My ST increased from £700 for 21 games to £1200 for 19 games. Which on a per match basis was a 90% increase.

Many of us sell 25-50% of our tickets (through official club channels) to cover some of the costs which of course exacerbates the issue of tickets getting into tourists hands.

Most of us live outside London these days and so when you factor in costs of travel, programme, food, travel and drink the cost of attending a match is around £100-120 per match.

If you do the cup games you are looking at £2500 at least which is £4k out of your gross salary.

Working man's game.

I’m taking a mate’s season ticket for this one, and from what he’s said the initial buoyant atmosphere resulting from the long-awaited escape from Wembley hasn’t sustained – and it’s unclear if that’s just a natural thing, or linked to the general malaise there at the minute, or related to the new ground design. I gather issues with the atmosphere were raised to Levy directly in the regular supporters trust meeting.

I’ve been looking forward to this since we were promoted. I’ve passed the the ground every other week since it was knocked down and I really like the look of what they’ve done.
 
The majority of STs cost between £1000-1200 but range from a few at £800 (only if you are an adult attending with a child) to £2200 for 'premium lite'.

My ST increased from £700 for 21 games to £1200 for 19 games. Which on a per match basis was a 90% increase.

Many of us sell 25-50% of our tickets (through official club channels) to cover some of the costs which of course exacerbates the issue of tickets getting into tourists hands.

Most of us live outside London these days and so when you factor in costs of travel, programme, food, travel and drink the cost of attending a match is around £100-120 per match.

If you do the cup games you are looking at £2500 at least which is £4k out of your gross salary.

Working man's game.

It’s a shame as Spurs still retained that working class base but was always going to go one way with the new ground.

It‘s ridiculous how you can go to a Bundesliga game, stand on a safe terrace, have a beer whilst you’re watching the game, experience a fantastic atmosphere and pay £20 (this is including your rail fare).
 
I’m taking a mate’s season ticket for this one, and from what he’s said the initial buoyant atmosphere resulting from the long-awaited escape from Wembley hasn’t sustained – and it’s unclear if that’s just a natural thing, or linked to the general malaise there at the minute, or related to the new ground design. I gather issues with the atmosphere were raised to Levy directly in the regular supporters trust meeting.

I’ve been looking forward to this since we were promoted. I’ve passed the the ground every other week since it was knocked down and I really like the look of what they’ve done.

Cheers.

For some games the atmosphere has been excellent. However it is very up and down depending on who we are playing.
The tourists and day trippers only know 2 songs which doesn't help.
 
It’s a shame as Spurs still retained that working class base but was always going to go one way with the new ground.

It‘s ridiculous how you can go to a Bundesliga game, stand on a safe terrace, have a beer whilst you’re watching the game, experience a fantastic atmosphere and pay £20 (this is including your rail fare).

It's madness mate. For the first time since the place opened I want to one of the old school boozers pre match before the Watford game. £4 for a 330ml bottle of cider in the ground although beer is reasonably priced.
 



Cheers.

For some games the atmosphere has been excellent. However it is very up and down depending on who we are playing.
The tourists and day trippers only know 2 songs which doesn't help.
To be fair though, even Chas and Dave didn't really put their heart and soul into " Its lucky for Spurs when the year ends in 1" ....
 
It’s a shame as Spurs still retained that working class base but was always going to go one way with the new ground.

It‘s ridiculous how you can go to a Bundesliga game, stand on a safe terrace, have a beer whilst you’re watching the game, experience a fantastic atmosphere and pay £20 (this is including your rail fare).

PL London clubs put their working class fans straight in the bin without much thought when the owners see an opportunity to gentrify their club.

That's the main difference between Manchester and London, City's ticket prices are very good, and considering the level of football and return compared to Arsenal and Spurs, outstanding but they have to be because the percentage of support that's working class is higher.

In London, you can make your cheapest season ticket over £1k because while there are loads of working class supporters, Greater London is full of people who earn that in a few days or less so they're a lower percentage of the potential.
 
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"Average distance from the pitch" is meaningless though. Even the fattest of us only occupy one seat so I'm only interested in what the view is like from mine.

In large stadiums you can see fuck all from up on high. The first time I went to Valencia's Mestalla the game below was like subutteo and planes coming in to land at the airport five miles away were closer to the action. The next time I didn't make that mistake, got a better seat and the whole experience in a real old-school ground was fantastic.

So, by all means build a ground that gets more people in, then give the extra punters binoculars. Though, as West Ham have found, increasing the crowd size hasn't increased the revenue.

I was sat up in the Gods when I visited there about 6 weeks ago. Thought the view was fine.

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PL London clubs put their working class fans straight in the bin without much thought when the owners see an opportunity to gentrify their club.

Short sighted as a good atmosphere actually rattles the opposition and wins teams points. Plus gate receipts proportionally contribute very little to revenue compared to TV money.

The key for SUFC is to maintain the hostile atmosphere. They should actively pursue it as a policy. If we can keep that up, it makes a tangible difference.
 
The majority of STs cost between £1000-1200 but range from a few at £800 (only if you are an adult attending with a child) to £2200 for 'premium lite'.

My ST increased from £700 for 21 games to £1200 for 19 games. Which on a per match basis was a 90% increase.

Many of us sell 25-50% of our tickets (through official club channels) to cover some of the costs which of course exacerbates the issue of tickets getting into tourists hands.

Most of us live outside London these days and so when you factor in costs of travel, programme, food, travel and drink the cost of attending a match is around £100-120 per match.

If you do the cup games you are looking at £2500 at least which is £4k out of your gross salary.

Working man's game.
Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying that genuine fans who've bought season tickets find they need to rent their ticket out a few times to tourists to cover some of the cost? And they do this through the club?
That's really sad, if I've understood correctly.
 
Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying that genuine fans who've bought season tickets find they need to rent their ticket out a few times to tourists to cover some of the cost? And they do this through the club?
That's really sad, if I've understood correctly.
When Bert is in foreign parts he gives his ticket to friends or family. But if that wasn't necessary he'd be happy to sell it back to the club.
What's wrong with that?
 
Sorry, just to clarify, are you saying that genuine fans who've bought season tickets find they need to rent their ticket out a few times to tourists to cover some of the cost? And they do this through the club?
That's really sad, if I've understood correctly.

Yes mate. Not all of them obviously but the majority of the people I know personally can't afford to do every game.
 
I was sat up in the Gods when I visited there about 6 weeks ago. Thought the view was fine.

Great photo. My first visit I was in the Grada del Mar, to the left of your photo, top level. I needed the assistance of a Sherpa to get to the seat and was as I previously described.

Second time I was same position as you, but much further down, 2nd level 2nd row, terrific place to view the game and get the ambience.

It benefits from its steepness, but not for vertigo sufferers.
 
When Bert is in foreign parts he gives his ticket to friends or family. But if that wasn't necessary he'd be happy to sell it back to the club.
What's wrong with that?
Absolutely nothing wrong with it. As it allows Blades to go to the game. All you need is a Spurs mate.... or even to join their One Hotspur club and buy one of the exchange tickets. Bit pricey but depends on how much you want to go.

The Blades ingenuity will see a fair portion of us around the ground and the system does imbue a sense of responsibility as you dont want a mate to lose his season ticket or they have your own address if you get up to no good .. but then who wants a scrap in a Michelin quality restaurant or when there is Beavertown on offer!

And of course you’d miss another Wilder tactical masterclass...
 
When Bert is in foreign parts he gives his ticket to friends or family. But if that wasn't necessary he'd be happy to sell it back to the club.
What's wrong with that?
Perfectly normal if you can't make it for some reason but I'd be gutted if we had to pay over a grand for a season ticket next year and my way of affording it was to sell half of it back to tourists. Literally prising the game away from fans who are doing everything they can to keep going but are getting pushed further away.
 
The majority of STs cost between £1000-1200 but range from a few at £800 (only if you are an adult attending with a child) to £2200 for 'premium lite'.

My ST increased from £700 for 21 games to £1200 for 19 games. Which on a per match basis was a 90% increase.

Many of us sell 25-50% of our tickets (through official club channels) to cover some of the costs which of course exacerbates the issue of tickets getting into tourists hands.

Most of us live outside London these days and so when you factor in costs of travel, programme, food, travel and drink the cost of attending a match is around £100-120 per match.

If you do the cup games you are looking at £2500 at least which is £4k out of your gross salary.

Working man's game.
We certainly owe a huge thanks to KM- PA for the price we pay to watch top prem football then. 250 for mine against a grand for theirs, happy days .
 

That raised an eyebrow, so I did some googleage.

What would be more interesting, would be some sort of proportionality as to how many of the headline-grabbing cheap seats are available.

Also, if everything goes well, will HRH look at this data and think he can squeeze an extra £100 per seat out of us next season, or will he take the Bayern-esque view that the extra monies raised is ball all and a full and atmospheric stadium is more important?
 



"Average distance from the pitch" is meaningless though. Even the fattest of us only occupy one seat so I'm only interested in what the view is like from mine.

In large stadiums you can see fuck all from up on high. The first time I went to Valencia's Mestalla the game below was like subutteo and planes coming in to land at the airport five miles away were closer to the action. The next time I didn't make that mistake, got a better seat and the whole experience in a real old-school ground was fantastic.

So, by all means build a ground that gets more people in, then give the extra punters binoculars. Though, as West Ham have found, increasing the crowd size hasn't increased the revenue.


The reason you're moaning about big stadiums, and being able to see fuck all from up high is exactly why you'd want a shorter average distance from the pitch for spectators.
 

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