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4/6 Chris Morgan Managed 1 Club,Sheffield United - 7 games 28.57%

4/1 Keith Curle Managed 3 Clubs,Chester,Torquay,Notts County - 209 games 36.36%
NOTTS COUNTY PLAYED 51 GAMES 45.10%

10/1 Michael Appleton Managed 4 Clubs,West Brom,Portsmouth,Blackpool,Blackburn -79 games 24.05%

PORTSMOUTH PLAYED 51 GAMES 25.49%

14/1 Brian Deane 14 games 28.57%
16/1 Peter Grant (NORWICH) 54 games 33.3%
16/1 Wally Downes (NEVER BEEN A MANAGER) NO THANK YOU SIR!!!
COUPLE OF RANDOM CHOICES!!!
40/1 Dean Saunders 3 Clubs Wrexham,Doncaster,Wovles -248 games 38.31%
DONCASTER ROVERS PLAYED 73 GAMES 35.62
40/1 Chris Wilder 3 Clubs,Alfreton,Halifax,Oxford - 596 games 44.80%
40/1 Neil Warnock 13 Clubs (TO MANY TO WRITE DOWN) 1308 games 40.37%
40/1 Stuart McCall 2 Clubs (Bradford,Motherwell) - 251 games 37.45%

Best win rate to our most successful Manager in years Neil Warnock is Chris Wilder,tho alot of his experience has come from the lower leagues which could be a great thing regarding player recruitment and where we are as a club at the moment.League 1 experience Keith Curle is the man 45.10% with NOTTS COUNTY!!!

MAYBE THE BOARD ARE THINKING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!!MAYBE!!!
 



Downes has been a manager, with Brentford. Win percentage around 30.
 
What was Wilsons win ratio as our manager out of interest?
 
These statistics are misleading to a large extent.

To give just one example, I expect you would find Warnock has a higher win percentage as United manager than Bassett.

This is because if you repeatedly just miss promotion to the PL, or just miss the playoffs, you'll have a high win percentage, whereas if you repeatedly keep your team in the top flight, that's a better finish but with a poorer record.

Chris Wilder has good percentages too, which is basically the effect of Oxford hovering around the Conference playoffs for 4 or 5 years but not actually going up.
 
Bladesway said:
Yeah, I get it you no likey. But I bet its up there. Certainly going to be higher than whoever we appoint. Just shows how fucking stupid we were to sack him when we did.
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According to Wiki just now (as at 10th April)

Barnsley - 36.82%
Oinks - 28.75%
Bristol C. - 47.35%
MKD - 30.49%
Hartlepool - 43.61%
Swindon - 36.36%
SUFC - 51.89%

Overall - 40.61%
 
Wow, won nearly 52% of all games? As I said, these stats can mislead, but that number's such an outlier that it makes the firing look even dafter.

I wonder what the odds are on the new boss presiding over more defeats next year than Wilson did in 2 years?
 
Wilder Win Rate % has a large effect at his time at Alfreton -played 48 83.33%

Oxford - played 236 45.34% - still decent tho.

The Win Rates % where just for info purposes not a misleading exercise,take them for as you see!!!

Personally i think Keith Curle did a pretty good job at Notts County 45.10% win rate,harshly sacked,what did there board want???apart from promotion!!!Notts County where there or thhere about the playoffs from i remember!!!
 
Revolution said:
Wow, won nearly 52% of all games? As I said, these stats can mislead, but that number's such an outlier that it makes the firing look even dafter.

I wonder what the odds are on the new boss presiding over more defeats next year than Wilson did in 2 years?
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It was the form that made the board sack him. We won once in his last six matches (16.67%), and the board didn't see it changing at a time when we had two vital matches against promotion rivals coming up. Short term move maybe, but that's us.
 
Revolution said:
Wow, won nearly 52% of all games? As I said, these stats can mislead, but that number's such an outlier that it makes the firing look even dafter.

I wonder what the odds are on the new boss presiding over more defeats next year than Wilson did in 2 years?
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United's record under Wilson:

P87 W45 D25 L17 pts: 160. PPG 1.84

That is easily the best PPG record of any United manager. Admittedly all his games were in the 3rd Division, but, as you say, a completely mad decision to sack him with 5 games to go and no real replacement in view.
 
What was his win rate last season as against the previous one ? Nowhere near as good you bet!
 
Darren said:
United's record under Wilson:

P87 W45 D25 L17 pts: 160. PPG 1.84

That is easily the best PPG record of any United manager. Admittedly all his games were in the 3rd Division, but, as you say, a completely mad decision to sack him with 5 games to go and no real replacement in view.
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The board knew exactly who they wanted to replace him with, a tougher leader and a motivator. He was already here, knew the squad and cost nothing.
 



Bergen Blade said:
The board knew exactly who they wanted to replace him with, a tougher leader and a motivator. He was already here, knew the squad and cost nothing.
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And was completly unproven and turned out to be rubbish...
 
Darren said:
Are you out pedanting me :)

If so, I said "real" replacement. I wouldn't classify Morgan as that.
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I think what Bergen is saying, is that the board thought Morgan was going to get it right, get us promoted and be given the job. We had no plan B incase none of the above worked and it's made us look stupid...
 
DazBlade88 said:
I think what Bergen is saying, is that the board thought Morgan was going to get it right, get us promoted and be given the job. We had no plan B incase none of the above worked and it's made us look stupid...
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Yes, I don't think it was the case that they got rid of Wilson and then just passed the task onto whoever was reserve team manager. At the time they thought Morgan was the perfect man to arrest the slide and get that team promoted.
 
Bergen Blade said:
Yes, I don't think it was the case that they got rid of Wilson and then just passed the task onto whoever was reserve team manager. At the time they thought Morgan was the perfect man to arrest the slide and get that team promoted.
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Blimey. And these people are in charge of our club. Morgan's only known qualities were:

1. He was a "tough" hard working player of a reasonable second tier standard
2. He had a mediocre record as a reserve team coach
3. He had no previous managerial experience
4. He is apparently able to shout a lot and look committed

And they thought he was the "perfect" man to get us up?
 
Darren said:
Blimey. And these people are in charge of our club. Morgan's only known qualities were:

1. He was a "tough" hard working player of a reasonable second tier standard
2. He had a mediocre record as a reserve team coach
3. He had no previous managerial experience
4. He is apparently able to shout a lot and look committed

And they thought he was the "perfect" man to get us up?
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Yes.

He said: “For whatever reason our home form, as statistics prove, meant that we weren’t getting the points we need to achieve our aim of success and promotion, hence the decision.

“At Bramall Lane, a place that clubs used to think was a fortress and where we rarely lost, we have been turning in some disappointing performances.

“We need to win at Bramall Lane, so therefore let’s do something positive to try and turn the three games to play at Bramall Lane into a success.

“The talks I had with Danny were frequent, it’s been on my mind for some weeks.

“But really it was through talking to colleagues that we realised we’ve got to get promotion this season, we believe we’re good enough for promotion.

“The missing link is really the home form and it was how to cure the missing link.

“It’s all about results and we weren’t getting results at home.”

To that end, McCabe hopes Morgan justifies what is a massive gamble, with the experience of Wilson replaced by the passion of the the 35-year-old from Barnsley.

“I’m hoping that Chris and his style will make us successful at Bramall Lane in the remaining fixtures,” said McCabe.

“Chris has got a way of leading Sheffield United that will hopefully get more out of the team and get us across the line.

“A different style of leadership may make the players perform more admirably at home and turn these points into wins.

“It might seem strange with five games to go, but it’s done with a purpose to get us back into the Championship.”
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I don't remember anyone ever talking about John Harris' "win percentage".

When did it become a factor anyone worried about? A complete load of bollocks! Made so by everyone being in completely different circumstances, playing against different teams and in different eras.
 
Grecian2000 said:
I don't remember anyone ever talking about John Harris' "win percentage".

When did it become a factor anyone worried about? A complete load of bollocks! Made so by everyone being in completely different circumstances, playing against different teams and in different eras.
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Indeed - just as facile as posting Wilson's record this season against last season showing a lower % win rate. No shit Sherlock, if you sell your best players (and they go to prison) - your team ain't going to do as well!
 
I don't understand the fuss about it either. Football is just a stat (and money) driven world these days.

I read people making a deal about Martinez's win percentage in the Premier League being poor, despite the fact he was managing Wigan. That's with some of the lowest resources, losing his best players and turning them into one of the few Premier League clubs to make a net profit in transfer fees since he joined. Just keeping them up for as long as he did was an achievement, never mind delivering a trophy.

It's all relative to the situation the club is in. A good win percentage doesn't automatically mean you're doing a good job and it's the same if you've got a low win percentage.
 
gicslater said:
4/6 Chris Morgan Managed 1 Club,Sheffield United - 7 games 28.57%

4/1 Keith Curle Managed 3 Clubs,Chester,Torquay,Notts County - 209 games 36.36%
NOTTS COUNTY PLAYED 51 GAMES 45.10%

10/1 Michael Appleton Managed 4 Clubs,West Brom,Portsmouth,Blackpool,Blackburn -79 games 24.05%

PORTSMOUTH PLAYED 51 GAMES 25.49%

14/1 Brian Deane 14 games 28.57%
16/1 Peter Grant (NORWICH) 54 games 33.3%
16/1 Wally Downes (NEVER BEEN A MANAGER) NO THANK YOU SIR!!!
COUPLE OF RANDOM CHOICES!!!
40/1 Dean Saunders 3 Clubs Wrexham,Doncaster,Wovles -248 games 38.31%
DONCASTER ROVERS PLAYED 73 GAMES 35.62
40/1 Chris Wilder 3 Clubs,Alfreton,Halifax,Oxford - 596 games 44.80%
40/1 Neil Warnock 13 Clubs (TO MANY TO WRITE DOWN) 1308 games 40.37%
40/1 Stuart McCall 2 Clubs (Bradford,Motherwell) - 251 games 37.45%

Best win rate to our most successful Manager in years Neil Warnock is Chris Wilder,tho alot of his experience has come from the lower leagues which could be a great thing regarding player recruitment and where we are as a club at the moment.League 1 experience Keith Curle is the man 45.10% with NOTTS COUNTY!!!

MAYBE THE BOARD ARE THINKING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!!!MAYBE!!!
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Blackwells 42.5 % win rate with us still looks impressive
 



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