Win at home, draw away

[mattbianco1]

The saying used to be "Win at home, draw away". If you did that you would probably win the league or at least get promotion.

If you win all home games and draw all away this would give you you 76pts in the Premier or 92pts in the EFL.

Last season 76pts in the Premier would have only achieved a 6th place finish.

92pts in the EFL would have only achieved 3rd place in the Championship.

However, it would've got 2nd place in league 1 and the title in League 2.

In 2015/16 72pts would've finished 2nd behind Leicester and 92pts would've got you 2nd, 1st and 2nd in the Champ, L1 & L2 respectively.

So... was last year an anomaly or are the top 2 leagues getting harder when winning 50% of your games is no longer enough?

 

[Tyler Durden]

I think we should stick it in one end and keep it out the other. It'll be tough, but pressure makes diamonds.

 

[Maidenhead]

The saying used to be "Win at home, draw away". If you did that you would probably win the league or at least get promotion.

If you win all home games and draw all away this would give you you 76pts in the Premier or 92pts in the EFL.

Last season 76pts in the Premier would have only achieved a 6th place finish.

92pts in the EFL would have only achieved 3rd place in the Championship.

However, it would've got 2nd place in league 1 and the title in League 2.

In 2015/16 72pts would've finished 2nd behind Leicester and 92pts would've got you 2nd, 1st and 2nd in the Champ, L1 & L2 respectively.

So... was last year an anomaly or are the top 2 leagues getting harder when winning 50% of your games is no longer enough?

The difference is that the top 5 or 6 teams tend to beat, or at least not lose to, everybody else so those results skew the equation in their favour, whereas in the lower leagues all the results are much less predictable.

This is especially so in the premiership, hence the wider differential.

 

[DifferentClass]

I think we should stick it in one end and keep it out the other. It'll be tough, but pressure makes diamonds.

Not willing to experiment sexually I see?

 

[Tyler Durden]

Not willing to experiment sexually I see?

It's been so long since I had sex that I've forgotten who ties up who.

 

[St Annington]

The saying you quote should actually read 'win your home games, and draw your away games at least'

Winning just 50% of games has never won anybody promotion. (Someone with a big nose who knows will prove me wrong here by citing some obscure 7th rate league somewhere).

Being virtually unbeatable at home and strong away is a good platform to build from.

 

[mattbianco1]

The saying you quote should actually read 'win your home games, and draw your away games at least'

Winning just 50% of games has never won anybody promotion. (Someone with a big nose who knows will prove me wrong here by citing some obscure 7th rate league somewhere).

Being virtually unbeatable at home and strong away is a good platform to build from.

I think I proved in the OP that it would've won promotion in every EFL division last season.

 

[St Annington]

I think I proved in the OP that it would've won promotion in every EFL division

If you require any mentoring in research and specifically sampling methods and techniques, give me a shout.

 

[St Annington]

In the spirit of playing the post, not the poster, I've probably been unfair on mattbianco (cool name btw, I say yeah yeah).

Out of over 100 years of league history, it is no good trying to prove statistics by only using any arbitrary 2/3/5/10 years as your sample size.

 

[SteveBlade]

It achieves a 2 point average per game, which should get you promotion in a 46 game season.

In the top flight, here and in most other European countries, it won't. Less games, and not as competitive as there's usually at least 2 or 3 teams who are miles better than the rest.

 

[ghandi]

The saying used to be "Win at home, draw away". If you did that you would probably win the league or at least get promotion.

If you win all home games and draw all away this would give you you 76pts in the Premier or 92pts in the EFL.

Last season 76pts in the Premier would have only achieved a 6th place finish.

92pts in the EFL would have only achieved 3rd place in the Championship.

However, it would've got 2nd place in league 1 and the title in League 2.

In 2015/16 72pts would've finished 2nd behind Leicester and 92pts would've got you 2nd, 1st and 2nd in the Champ, L1 & L2 respectively.

So... was last year an anomaly or are the top 2 leagues getting harder when winning 50% of your games is no longer enough?

Not strictly true as 86 points would have gained promotion from the Championship as the 3rd team only achieved 85 points.

 

[Ricky]

I'd certainly take draws from our first 2 away games. We could barely have had a tougher start.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I say go in to every match no matter where it is with no misconceptions and win every fucking game.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

When you get the ball, lads, give it to someone you know...

 

[Boxer Blade]

I think matt needs a girlfriend

 

[mattbianco1]

Not strictly true as 86 points would have gained promotion from the Championship as the 3rd team only achieved 85 points.

Surely to overtake 2nd place you need more points than 2nd place, not 3rd place?

 

[ghandi]

Surely to overtake 2nd place you need more points than 2nd place, not 3rd place?

Not really as the 2nd place gained more points than we're needed. 86 points would have been the absolute minimum required to finish above 3rd.

 

[mattbianco1]

Not really as the 2nd place gained more points than we're needed. 86 points would have been the absolute minimum required to finish above 3rd.

You are participating in a race and you overtake 2nd place. What place are you in?

 

[BushBlade]

The saying used to be "Win at home, draw away". If you did that you would probably win the league or at least get promotion.

If you win all home games and draw all away this would give you you 76pts in the Premier or 92pts in the EFL.

Last season 76pts in the Premier would have only achieved a 6th place finish.

92pts in the EFL would have only achieved 3rd place in the Championship.

However, it would've got 2nd place in league 1 and the title in League 2.

In 2015/16 72pts would've finished 2nd behind Leicester and 92pts would've got you 2nd, 1st and 2nd in the Champ, L1 & L2 respectively.

So... was last year an anomaly or are the top 2 leagues getting harder when winning 50% of your games is no longer enough?

Maybe it was relevant in the old days when it was only two points for a win.

 

[YES Blade]

When you get the ball, lads, give it to someone you know...

What if you know someone on the other team? Maybe that's why Hammond kept giving the ball away?

 

[grafikhaus]

Further to this thread, I've come across this:

In the 1929-30 season, Brentford FC won all 21 home matches (in the old Division Three South) and finished second (The pigs won the First Division title by ten points). However the Bees were not promoted because of their poor away record. In those days, you gained only 2 points for a win and one for a draw and only the top team was promoted:



The only other time a top-flight team came close to winning every home game (Sunderland did it in 1891-92) was Manchester United in the 2010-11 season, Premier League. A draw against West Brom spoilt their home record, which finished W:18, D:1, L:0. Despite only winning five away games, the Reds finished as Champions.

 

[Aston max]

It's been so long since I had sex that I've forgotten who ties up who.

In would rather have a good dinner these days