Will Brooks stay??

[YES Blade]

Calvert Lewin wa 5th choice striker in a league 1 team.
That transfer money helped us buy players that gained promotion.
Your plan would have been to keep him and then we’d probably still be in league 1.

When we were in league 1 if put to a democratic vote really doubt anyone was interested in building a team for the future.
Our club was wasting away and we needed instant promotion, quicker the better.
DCL was a fantastic sale in the circumstances, he was 1 for the future
But the future was low on our priorities, we needed funds for instant investment/ improvement in the 1st team.

Try and justify it all you want, we sold a Premier League for £1.5m it’s as simple as that. I didn’t say we should have kept him, we need to get more realistic fees, it’s 2018 not 1998.

The valuation was far too low then and far too low now, do you think Everton would have walked away at £3m, £4m or even £5m? They paid £7.5m rising to £11m for Lookman a matter of months later.

 

[Liverpool blade]

I think it would be stupid for brooks to go to the premiership as he'd land himself back in a Man City type situation( stuck in a reserve side getting an occasional cup tie appearance!).
We shouldn't sell him to spurs as levy would fuck us over on any deal!!. He'd sell his own family if it suited him!!.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Like it or not, as things currently stand, selling Brooks is probably the only way of raising a transfer budget for CW

Exactly, as things stand.

If we had decent owners with an actual decent wedge behind them, we could compete. Instead we have a couple of blokes who are intent on squabbling and pretend to have money. They're like the bloke at a party who's tried to turn up looking flash and Berty big bollocks but in reality they never get a round in and their labels were bought at a knock down price in TK-Maxx.

 

[robbiez666]

If we keep playing with the same formation, he doesn't really naturally fit into it for me. Yes, he could play up top or in the Duffy role but he's not really suited to either. Assuming we have little money, if we could get £10 million for him then we need to cash-in.

 

[Pinchy]

Try and justify it all you want, we sold a Premier League for £1.5m it’s as simple as that. I didn’t say we should have kept him, we need to get more realistic fees, it’s 2018 not 1998.

The valuation was far too low then and far too low now, do you think Everton would have walked away at £3m, £4m or even £5m? They paid £7.5m rising to £11m for Lookman a matter of months later.

He won’t have a Premiership career. Let’s give it a couple of years...

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

I think some on here need a reality check. Just because Warnock was mad enough to waste £6m on Madine doesn't suddenly raise the bar on all other transfers.

Bobby Reid (Bristol City) was joint third-highest scorer in The Championship (with Leon), scoring 19 goals, was named in the EFL Team of the Year and is being chased by Bournemouth. For £12m. So where this talk of £20m for Brooks comes from is beyond me.

I’m not saying he’s worth 20 million. I’m saying start high and haggle down.

Or we could start at 50p like usual

 

[YES Blade]

He won’t have a Premiership career. Let’s give it a couple of years...

Whether he does or doesn’t, Everton will make a very nice profit either way.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

He won’t have a Premiership career. Let’s give it a couple of years...

Well he's doing a half decent impression so far.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

You can tell the McCabe brainwashing has gone deep into some people. I’ve even seen some saying “anything around £5m and I’d accept.”

Gary Madine cost £6m ffs. It doesn’t raise the bar on all transfers of course it doesn’t. But for Christ’s sake let’s use that as the benchmark for a 20 year old international shall we?

That Lookman fella went for £7.5m. And yet we have some saying we may as well just sell him.

The mind boggles at time. It’s a small time attitude.

 

[BigBed]

Be nice, if he did go to Everton, to get Lookman on season long loan in return..........

 

[snootyfenooty]

You can tell the McCabe brainwashing has gone deep into some people. I’ve even seen some saying “anything around £5m and I’d accept.”

Gary Madine cost £6m ffs. It doesn’t raise the bar on all transfers of course it doesn’t. But for Christ’s sake let’s use that as the benchmark for a 20 year old international shall we?

That Lookman fella went for £7.5m. And yet we have some saying we may as well just sell him.

The mind boggles at time. It’s a small time attitude.

Not intended at you in particular but it seems once again many on this forum have missed the point regarding Nadine's transfer.

When we sold Beattie we were left short in the striker department and blew the play-offs. When Ched got banged up, no strikers again and we bottled the autos. And this season when Billy and Leon ran out of gas we had no alternative (Ched? Don't make me laugh), we ran out of goals and missed the play-offs. So Warnock didn't seem to have an immediate problem up front but there was no guarantee he might have, so he bought Nadine as an insurance policy and the fee paid was for this, not Nadine's ability. Nadine was playing well lets not forget and the £6m insurance policy paid out 20-fold for Cardiff. They'll also probably get half of this back when he's sold on this summer. Once again Warnock comes up trumps but too many on here are too blinded by their dislike of him to see that's why he gets the results that he does.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Not intended at you in particular but it seems once again many on this forum have missed the point regarding Nadine's transfer.

When we sold Beattie we were left short in the striker department and blew the play-offs. When Ched got banged up, no strikers again and we bottled the autos. And this season when Billy and Leon ran out of gas we had no alternative (Ched? Don't make me laugh), we ran out of goals and missed the play-offs. So Warnock didn't seem to have an immediate problem up front but there was no guarantee he might have, so he bought Nadine as an insurance policy and the fee paid was for this, not Nadine's ability. Nadine was playing well lets not forget and the £6m insurance policy paid out 20-fold for Cardiff. They'll also probably get half of this back when he's sold on this summer. Once again Warnock comes up trumps but too many on here are too blinded by their dislike of him to see that's why he gets the results that he does.

So now what you’re saying is that Madine is worth £6m because Warnock was, for lack of a better word, desperate? Sound.

He still paid £6m.

 

[Rodley]

So now what you’re saying is that Madine is worth £6m because Warnock was, for lack of a better word, desperate? Sound.

He still paid £6m.

I bet that keeps the Cardiff fans awake at night

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

Not intended at you in particular but it seems once again many on this forum have missed the point regarding Nadine's transfer.

When we sold Beattie we were left short in the striker department and blew the play-offs. When Ched got banged up, no strikers again and we bottled the autos. And this season when Billy and Leon ran out of gas we had no alternative (Ched? Don't make me laugh), we ran out of goals and missed the play-offs. So Warnock didn't seem to have an immediate problem up front but there was no guarantee he might have, so he bought Nadine as an insurance policy and the fee paid was for this, not Nadine's ability. Nadine was playing well lets not forget and the £6m insurance policy paid out 20-fold for Cardiff. They'll also probably get half of this back when he's sold on this summer. Once again Warnock comes up trumps but too many on here are too blinded by their dislike of him to see that's why he gets the results that he does.

Agree 100%. He bought an insurance policy, and although it didn’t work, it wasn’t needed. An outlay of £6m was viewed in the bigger picture of what they were trying to achieve. If they’d been mid table they wouldn’t have done it, but their strategy altered mid season due to their over performance/league position. They will easily get £2.5m to £3m for him in the summer. Whereas when we were faced with similar situations, we sold Deane & fjortoft, sold good Beattie & brought in bad Beattie, Will ‘I’ve got a hernia’ Hoskins as cover for Ched, and brought in James ‘the thin white duke’ Wilson, amongst other moments of shorttermist, money saving fuckwittery.

 

[Eric Cartman]

Will Brooks might. But Dave will almost certainly be off.

 

[Keen Blade]

"Gary Madine cost £6m. " FFS , yes Colin took Cardiff up but that signing was unbelievable, cost them 6 mill and he didn't even start the games in the run in for Cardiff, that useless twat won't get one goal next season when they get relegated, if he even gets on the pitch .
As for Brooks , I love the kid but I am at the stage now that if anyone doesn't want to be at the club they can fook off and that includes our manager ( who I also love ) , but it's like a girlfriend that has found someone else or is at that it's not you it's me stage , if the loves gone your only gona argue and be stuck in a relationship that the other half doesn't want to be in , and with out sex !! and who wants that !!

Being stuck in a relationship you don't wanna be in is something Kevin co-owner knows all about !
He hasn't wanted to own us for years.
And now he doesn't like the co-owner he'd previously hoped would buy his share.
But you can't base your business decisions on love & sex !

 

[Keen Blade]

Agree 100%. He bought an insurance policy, and although it didn’t work, it wasn’t needed. An outlay of £6m was viewed in the bigger picture of what they were trying to achieve. If they’d been mid table they wouldn’t have done it, but their strategy altered mid season due to their over performance/league position. They will easily get £2.5m to £3m for him in the summer. Whereas when we were faced with similar situations, we sold Deane & fjortoft, sold good Beattie & brought in bad Beattie, Will ‘I’ve got a hernia’ Hoskins as cover for Ched, and brought in James ‘the thin white duke’ Wilson, amongst other moments of shorttermist, money saving fuckwittery.

And , more recently , failed to replace Coutts when top of the table.

 

[Grappler]

Agree, he does show fantastic balance and has quick feet
But still seems light weight and has poor decision making
He often flatters to deceive, a slightly better version of Jamal Campbell-Rice.
I probably would sell him if we received a stupid offer, say 15 million plus.
The problem is that some PL clubs are so rich that they can afford to waste money and make stupid offers.

Mate......seriously?

 

[Keen Blade]

So for example, we've seen £8-10m suggested on here. As ridiculous it is that championship players are now sold for that much, the sad reality is that that is also nowhere near enough for the lad, for his potential, his star quality (he's the only one that can do what he does in our squad) and his impact.

If you sell him, now that will buy you one decent championship player but nothing like the impact Brooks himself could have. He'll only get better this season too.

shithouse Nadine cost £6m for crying out loud, please hold on to the lad.

Washing machine got Bolton 3 points at the Lane

 

[Grappler]

Not intended at you in particular but it seems once again many on this forum have missed the point regarding Nadine's transfer.

When we sold Beattie we were left short in the striker department and blew the play-offs. When Ched got banged up, no strikers again and we bottled the autos. And this season when Billy and Leon ran out of gas we had no alternative (Ched? Don't make me laugh), we ran out of goals and missed the play-offs. So Warnock didn't seem to have an immediate problem up front but there was no guarantee he might have, so he bought Nadine as an insurance policy and the fee paid was for this, not Nadine's ability. Nadine was playing well lets not forget and the £6m insurance policy paid out 20-fold for Cardiff. They'll also probably get half of this back when he's sold on this summer. Once again Warnock comes up trumps but too many on here are too blinded by their dislike of him to see that's why he gets the results that he does.

Just a guess, but are you a Chuck Berry fan?

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Not intended at you in particular but it seems once again many on this forum have missed the point regarding Nadine's transfer.

When we sold Beattie we were left short in the striker department and blew the play-offs. When Ched got banged up, no strikers again and we bottled the autos. And this season when Billy and Leon ran out of gas we had no alternative (Ched? Don't make me laugh), we ran out of goals and missed the play-offs. So Warnock didn't seem to have an immediate problem up front but there was no guarantee he might have, so he bought Nadine as an insurance policy and the fee paid was for this, not Nadine's ability. Nadine was playing well lets not forget and the £6m insurance policy paid out 20-fold for Cardiff. They'll also probably get half of this back when he's sold on this summer. Once again Warnock comes up trumps but too many on here are too blinded by their dislike of him to see that's why he gets the results that he does.

You're spot on with that, almost. Except he's not called "Nadine". He's called "Madine". "Nadine" works in a hairdressers in town and isn't valued at anything near to £6M, but I'd rather spend a night with her than a fortnight with "Madine".

 

[Keen Blade]

Not intended at you in particular but it seems once again many on this forum have missed the point regarding Nadine's transfer.

When we sold Beattie we were left short in the striker department and blew the play-offs. When Ched got banged up, no strikers again and we bottled the autos. And this season when Billy and Leon ran out of gas we had no alternative (Ched? Don't make me laugh), we ran out of goals and missed the play-offs. So Warnock didn't seem to have an immediate problem up front but there was no guarantee he might have, so he bought Nadine as an insurance policy and the fee paid was for this, not Nadine's ability. Nadine was playing well lets not forget and the £6m insurance policy paid out 20-fold for Cardiff. They'll also probably get half of this back when he's sold on this summer. Once again Warnock comes up trumps but too many on here are too blinded by their dislike of him to see that's why he gets the results that he does.

Spot on.
Strengthen whilst you're strong , if success is within reach.

Colin buying Madine for Cardiff is just like buying Akinbiyi for us - guaranteed promotion to the Prem.
Sell him when you get there if you want.

And it's exactly UNLIKE what we did by failing to replace our key midfielder when he broke his leg.
When we were top of the table.
With a great manager.
Success within touching distance.

That's the difference between us and successful Clubs.
They don't wait for a disaster.
Or at least , if one befalls them , THEY TAKE POSITIVE ACTION.

 

[Keen Blade]

You're spot on with that, almost. Except he's not called "Nadine". He's called "Madine". "Nadine" works in a hairdressers in town and isn't valued at anything near to £6M, but I'd rather spend a night with her than a fortnight with "Madine".

She could give you bruises in places he wouldn't have the brains to consider.

And more in one night than he could in a fortnight !

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

You're spot on with that, almost. Except he's not called "Nadine". He's called "Madine". "Nadine" works in a hairdressers in town and isn't valued at anything near to £6M, but I'd rather spend a night with her than a fortnight with "Madine".

I think you'll find that Snooty was being ironic / sarcastic by referring to him as Nadine.

 

[Chali 2na]

I think some on here need a reality check. Just because Warnock was mad enough to waste £6m on Madine doesn't suddenly raise the bar on all other transfers.

Bobby Reid (Bristol City) was joint third-highest scorer in The Championship (with Leon), scoring 19 goals, was named in the EFL Team of the Year and is being chased by Bournemouth. For £12m. So where this talk of £20m for Brooks comes from is beyond me.

The bar was already raised before the Madine deal, it happened in the summer.

Also, Bristol will not sell Reid for £12m.

I doubt if any club would risk £10-15 million on 'potential'.

Why on earth would you doubt that?

Be nice, if he did go to Everton, to get Lookman on season long loan in return..........

Don't think the Championship would be a logical destination after a successful Bundesliga loan.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

If the fee was say £13m up front (no silly conditions of sale needed such as we get £3m of that if he goes to the moon in the next 5 years etc) and that allowed us to bring in 3 to 4 first team players then it would worth the trade.

If that was the case then GROTL and GLTTL

 

[finlaytheblade]

Spot on.
Strengthen whilst you're strong , if success is within reach.

Colin buying Madine for Cardiff is just like buying Akinbiyi for us - guaranteed promotion to the Prem.
Sell him when you get there if you want.

And it's exactly UNLIKE what we did by failing to replace our key midfielder when he broke his leg.
When we were top of the table.
With a great manager.
Success within touching distance.

That's the difference between us and successful Clubs.
They don't wait for a disaster.
Or at least , if one befalls them , THEY TAKE POSITIVE ACTION.

How do you replace Coutts ?.brought Evans in who has some of Coutts ability but not a replacement.Difficult call to make unless you have 5 million to throw at it.Any team in the championship would find it tough to replace a vital cog in there midfield.
McDonald (ex blade ) has a similar roll at Fulham he would be hard to replace in there set up.Hopefully Coutts will come back fit and strong, unlike Clough who played him when he was not 100% fit,Wilder will get him up to speed before he gets a regular. place.

 

[Champagneblade]

It would be ridiculous to sell Brooks in my opinion:
1. If he’s worth x now, he’ll be worth 2-4 times that as soon as he sets foot on the turf at PL level, which could be with us if we can eek out 6 more points.
2. Unless he gets a career-threatening injury, his value will increase the next few seasons without a doubt.
3. If he doesn’t look like breaking into Spurs or Bournemouth team, they might loan him. He could end up against us and improving another team’s chances.
4. He could become a definitive starter either up top or in attacking midfield or on the wing. The more starters we’ve got, the better.
5. What message does this send to the fans and the players? It says same old, same old and it says I’ve gone as far as I can with this lot.
6. Setting aside success, this if an entertainment business. He’s the most entertaining player we have. Let’s not suck the enjoyment out of it!

It’s a no from me. Come back in 24 months if we are still in this division.

Now is not the time to start taking backward steps.

 

[BigBed]

The bar was already raised before the Madine deal, it happened in the summer.

Also, Bristol will not sell Reid for £12m.



Why on earth would you doubt that?



Don't think the Championship would be a logical destination after a successful Bundesliga loan.

I know, but I also don't think he'll go to Everton, as they've not been looking at him so far as reports go??

 

[Chali 2na]

I know, but I also don't think he'll go to Everton, as they've not been looking at him so far as reports go??

Not sure I get what you're reffering to...