Will Brooks stay??

[wizadry]

If you ever want to progress then you have to keep your best players and game changers, it really is that simple.

 

[Sheffsteel]

We also sold Calvert-Lewin for £1.5m, that says it all.

Calvert Lewin wa 5th choice striker in a league 1 team.
That transfer money helped us buy players that gained promotion.
Your plan would have been to keep him and then we’d probably still be in league 1.

When we were in league 1 if put to a democratic vote really doubt anyone was interested in building a team for the future.
Our club was wasting away and we needed instant promotion, quicker the better.
DCL was a fantastic sale in the circumstances, he was 1 for the future
But the future was low on our priorities, we needed funds for instant investment/ improvement in the 1st team.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Am I missing something here? All I've seen from Brooks so far is a decent nutmeg against the pigs and a well taken goal against Leeds. Lets not forget he was partly at fault for the pigs equaliser for not tracking back. Something which seems to be a recurring them in Brooks' appearances. The rest of his performances this season have been nothing special and some could even be described as bad . I'd much rather keep Fleck and O'Connell players who perform week in week out. Brooks is nearly 21, how long do you wait for a player to come good? I know he's had glandular fever but Seesegnon at 17 has started nearly every game for Fulham. I'm very much prepared to be proven wrong but I really don't think we've got another Walker quality player on our hands here. If selling Brooks means we can keep Fleck and sign a quality striker I'm all for it.

Agree, he does show fantastic balance and has quick feet
But still seems light weight and has poor decision making
He often flatters to deceive, a slightly better version of Jamal Campbell-Rice.
I probably would sell him if we received a stupid offer, say 15 million plus.
The problem is that some PL clubs are so rich that they can afford to waste money and make stupid offers.

 

[BigBed]

Players we need to keep for next season (in order of preference)

1. Fleck
2. O'Connell
3. Coutts

Pre glandular fever Brooks would have been between Fleck and O'Connell but since then I have mixed feelings if he should 3rd in the list or a bit further down . Dont know if in three months time he will be back to the player he was

Sorted that for you matey.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Start the bidding at 30 million plus add ons.If you get negotiated down to 20 odd plus add ons that would be an acceptable price for one of the biggest talents outside the premier league. Cairney, Maddison, Sessegnon etc will all fetch bigger prices, the very limited Hugill has just gone to West Ham for over ten million ffs.If you look at our squad, the players that Brooks is competing with are all aging: Clarke, Sharp, Duffy, Holmes. It would be a devastating blow to our squad to sell the only pacy alternative we have in the squad.The buying club assumes the risk, both that he's over his glandular fever and that there is value in his large transfer fee.
Reinvestment? The only money we've spent that has not come from the 6.5-7 million received in the the Walker,Murphy, Maguire clauses was that spent on the January signings. Any sale of a top asset will probably go towards paying of the annual losses. With an increased wage bill, the remainder would be non existent or tiny - if we sold any player for ten million or under.There would be a tiny chance of adequately replacing Brooks. Be careful what you wish for!

 

[bladesmanluke]

If you don’t want to sell him, you ask for £30m and then if we end up with £20m it’s not so bad.
Suggestions of £8-£10m literally make me feel sick. You can’t replace him for that so don’t sell him for that.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Calvert Lewin wa 5th choice striker in a league 1 team.
That transfer money helped us buy players that gained promotion.
Your plan would have been to keep him and then we’d probably still be in league 1.

When we were in league 1 if put to a democratic vote really doubt anyone was interested in building a team for the future.
Our club was wasting away and we needed instant promotion, quicker the better.
DCL was a fantastic sale in the circumstances, he was 1 for the future
But the future was low on our priorities, we needed funds for instant investment/ improvement in the 1st team.

If that's the yardstick, - that any top assett that leaves must allow us to revamp the whole squad with players that can help us romp the league, - I'd be happy with that. How much would we need to get for Brooks to allow us a chance at achieving that would be the obvious question. 30 million? Ithink we'd need to be able to buy three or four top end championship players with the proceeds, at least.

 

[grafikhaus]

Gary Madine cost £6m.

If we take a penny less than that then we may as well just jack it all in

I think some on here need a reality check. Just because Warnock was mad enough to waste £6m on Madine doesn't suddenly raise the bar on all other transfers.

Bobby Reid (Bristol City) was joint third-highest scorer in The Championship (with Leon), scoring 19 goals, was named in the EFL Team of the Year and is being chased by Bournemouth. For £12m. So where this talk of £20m for Brooks comes from is beyond me.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Sell,while he is fever free.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

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[Harry's Game]

. If selling Brooks means we can keep Fleck and sign a quality striker I'm all for it.

I think selling Brooks now would be more likely to send a message out to the likes of Fleck and JOC (and Wilder) that the club has no ambition to move forward so why should I stick with them when other clubs do have ambition?

 

[nopigfansintown]

I think some on here need a reality check. Just because Warnock was mad enough to waste £6m on Madine doesn't suddenly raise the bar on all other transfers.

Bobby Reid (Bristol City) was joint third-highest scorer in The Championship (with Leon), scoring 19 goals, was named in the EFL Team of the Year and is being chased by Bournemouth. For £12m. So where this talk of £20m for Brooks comes from is beyond me.

Exactly; we're unlikely to achieve his value at this time, so selling him would be madness.You could say another Kyle Walker deal. Selling assets at the right time is key to achieving value.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I think memory is affecting some poster's perceptions regarding Brooks. The young lad has had some outstanding moments, none more so in my opinion than at the Sheffield derby. Then illness struck, and the impact this has had on his form and consistency has been clear. Although still immensely talented, Brooks hasn't performed like a £20 million rated player, let alone valued by some at £30 million, yet these figures are bandied about as if buying clubs will politely hand over a large chunk of money without a thought to what they're buying.

We have a player, based on potential and what he seems capable of currently delivering, that should be worth between £10-15 million if transferred. It's not Brooks' fault that his form has suffered, but the illness has had a profound effect on him, and he'll have to work hard to recapture the form he's shown not that long ago. Of course there's a sell-on clause to consider. If we can negotiate between 15-20% that should, hopefully, offer further income at some future point.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Should we sell David Brooks?

If Chris Wilder decides its the right deal for the club? Yes

If the Board decide to sell him against the manager’s wishes? No

 

[nopigfansintown]

Should we sell David Brooks?

If Chris Wilder decides its the right deal for the club? Yes

If the Board decide to sell him against the manager’s wishes? No

He's already said if Brooks leaves it's a boardroom decision. He may change his mind though.

 

[metalblade]

Those saying sell need to pause and ask themselves when did we ever re invest money recieved for our best players

 

[Sothall_Blade]

He's already said if Brooks leaves it's a boardroom decision. He may change his mind though.

What was actually said was:-

<< Blades manager Wilder is adamant he does not want to cash in on Brooks although he concedes the ultimate decision will be made in the Bramall Lane boardroom. “There’s a lot of off-the-record conversations, whether agents connected very closely with clubs, or even clubs asking ‘what are you doing with players?’,” said Wilder. “Nothing changes from my point of view, for David, he is not for sale. >>

If Wilder says he doesn’t want to sell him then the Board should respect that.
There may come a time when we receive a bid that Wilder thinks we should accept. They’re paying him to make those decisions, so don’t undermine him.

 

[zablade]

I any bid is received over £7m he’s gone.

 

[grafikhaus]

We have a player, based on potential and what he seems capable of currently delivering, that should be worth between £10-15 million if transferred.

I doubt if any club would risk £10-15 million on 'potential'. If Brooks goes, I'll be as sick as anyone but it's no use looking at players we've transferred (and their future improvement) as 'if only'. Like Kyle Walker, Maguire & Calvert-Lewin, playing with better players improves their game. I'd like to see DB play for us all next season. That way we'd see if he's fully recovered from his illness. We'll also see if he's gone as far as he can with United.

 

[itsinyerblood]

I doubt if any club would risk £10-15 million on 'potential'. If Brooks goes, I'll be as sick as anyone but it's no use looking at players we've transferred (and their future improvement) as 'if only'. Like Kyle Walker, Maguire & Calvert-Lewin, playing with better players improves their game. I'd like to see DB play for us all next season. That way we'd see if he's fully recovered from his illness. We'll also see if he's gone as far as he can with United.

All good points graf. I've a sneaking suspicion that Brooks will be here next season, but what happens between now and then at Board level will go a long way in deciding what Brooks, as well as Wilder, will do. I hope we get the quality of player we've lacked up front, that could make the difference between remaining in mid-table and at least challenging in the play-offs.

 

[Esablade]

Standards slipping on here:

GLTTL.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Well, there we have it, I've heard it all now.

Brooks is lightweight, doesn't track back, only made a couple of cameo performances last season, isn't worth as much as some Bristol City striker I've hardly heard of, flatters to deceive, has poor decision making and it would be OK to sell him as long as we keep JOC.

Taking all this into consideration, I think we might get £500k for him if we're lucky.

 

[super_pig]

i remember when tc went to Leeds for what was it 333,333 and we all went ‘is that all’
expect brooks to go for piddling amount
i wouldn’t mind but Chris will see fuck all of it

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Am I missing something here? All I've seen from Brooks so far is a decent nutmeg against the pigs and a well taken goal against Leeds. Lets not forget he was partly at fault for the pigs equaliser for not tracking back. Something which seems to be a recurring them in Brooks' appearances. The rest of his performances this season have been nothing special and some could even be described as bad . I'd much rather keep Fleck and O'Connell players who perform week in week out. Brooks is nearly 21, how long do you wait for a player to come good? I know he's had glandular fever but Seesegnon at 17 has started nearly every game for Fulham. I'm very much prepared to be proven wrong but I really don't think we've got another Walker quality player on our hands here. If selling Brooks means we can keep Fleck and sign a quality striker I'm all for it.

Sarcasm?

 

[mancunianblade]

I’d rather sell Will Brooks than David Brooks

 

[Gimli]

Am I missing something here? All I've seen from Brooks so far is a decent nutmeg against the pigs and a well taken goal against Leeds. Lets not forget he was partly at fault for the pigs equaliser for not tracking back. Something which seems to be a recurring them in Brooks' appearances. The rest of his performances this season have been nothing special and some could even be described as bad . I'd much rather keep Fleck and O'Connell players who perform week in week out. Brooks is nearly 21, how long do you wait for a player to come good? I know he's had glandular fever but Seesegnon at 17 has started nearly every game for Fulham. I'm very much prepared to be proven wrong but I really don't think we've got another Walker quality player on our hands here. If selling Brooks means we can keep Fleck and sign a quality striker I'm all for it.

I know we all see the game differently and everyone has their own view on things but to answer your question - yes, you are missing something.

(In my opinion of course )

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

It’s just not the Blades way to say “Brooks is not going anywhere because we are building for a promotion challenge next season” is it....

Some of the fees people would accept on here are a joke. Madine went for £6m ffs.

 

[Addison]

Start the bidding at 30 million plus add ons.If you get negotiated down to 20 odd plus add ons that would be an acceptable price for one of the biggest talents outside the premier league. Cairney, Maddison, Sessegnon etc will all fetch bigger prices, the very limited Hugill has just gone to West Ham for over ten million ffs.If you look at our squad, the players that Brooks is competing with are all aging: Clarke, Sharp, Duffy, Holmes. It would be a devastating blow to our squad to sell the only pacy alternative we have in the squad.The buying club assumes the risk, both that he's over his glandular fever and that there is value in his large transfer fee.
Reinvestment? The only money we've spent that has not come from the 6.5-7 million received in the the Walker,Murphy, Maguire clauses was that spent on the January signings. Any sale of a top asset will probably go towards paying of the annual losses. With an increased wage bill, the remainder would be non existent or tiny - if we sold any player for ten million or under.There would be a tiny chance of adequately replacing Brooks. Be careful what you wish for!

Fulham are quoting £100 million for Sessignon and some on here would be happy with less than £10 million. The player is recovering from glandular fever and will rediscover the pace he had at the beginning of the season and his price will rise if he's given another season. For all the talk of McCabe keeping the club afloat where he has failed miserably is valuing our players and letting them go way below their true value. See DCL £1.5 million.

We are in the championship now not league 1, values are much higher and Brooks has championship and international appearances against his name. The benchmark isn't Madine its Sessignon. Even if Brooks was valued at £30million is he worth £70 million less than Sessignon.

The Club have a very valuable asset who's ultimate sale could clear trading losses and provide a significant war chest for the Manager if we had some negotiating balls. We have to bin the policy of we can't stand in their way so we'll let them go for peanuts and start some serious planning around how we are going to grow our prized asset. Isn't that part of what CW has been going on about.

 

[GuangzhouBlade]

I think selling Brooks now would be more likely to send a message out to the likes of Fleck and JOC (and Wilder) that the club has no ambition to move forward so why should I stick with them when other clubs do have ambition?

I can see that side to be fair. In which case the price has to be stupid money 15million plus

 

[DronnieBlade]

Sorted that for you matey.

This ^^^^^^^

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