Wilder wins games

[GymClassHero]

"Wilder wins games against bottom of the league opposition" would be more accurate.

Wilder flukes games with moments of quality from really good players. Look at the build up for Peck's goal, it's not exactly come off the training ground has it?

How would you know? Do you attend the training sessions?

Thought not.

 

[Badger Blade]

It's a tough one to assess because a 46 game season is hard and not every game is going to be a sparkling performance and sometimes you just have to get over the line.

However, that's the sort of thing you expect more in the dead of winter in the freezing cold when a grafting 2-1 victory at Blackburn in the manner we got last night would be looked on a bit more favourably.

I'm not sure it bodes too well when we do get another 15/20 games into the season when our lot already look out on their feet and injuries and suspensions start becoming more of a factor.

I still don't think Wilder knows what his best centre midfield partnership looks like. We're not offering a lot of protection to the defence with Phillips and Riedewald both sat on the bench and better teams, like Wolves this weekend, have the capacity to take us to the cleaners without one of them being on the field. This is despite the fact that, maybe to other supporters, we have a strong team on paper but we seemingly don't have any distinguishable tactics or style.

 

[SUFC Guy]

Bullshit.

If we'd won all six games and were top of the league nobody would be upset.

I wouldn't wager too much money on that mate

 

[Akrotiri_Blades]

How would you know? Do you attend the training sessions?

Thought not.

Although I am not ITK on training sessions, the 2nd goal was more of a "fluid" training session type of goal, although it started with a hoof ball, Cannon got the header, down into the centre, into BBD onto Rothwell with the quick pass into Peck and from that distance he is capable of scoring time and time again. Although hoofball might not be the first thing we think about, if we can win the header and the 2nd ball we have every chance of creating a promising attack.

 

[JS Blade]

Chris has his critics which seems to have grown in the last 12 months, everyone will have their reasons for this.
My opinion is that he's still the right person for this club at this moment in time.

He's been dealt a sh** hand and also we've dived in to being compliant by selling assets to meet sustainability regulations in one window. This may actually be a godsend considering the scrutiny the club will now come under from the EFL due to the owners actions.

We have rode our luck at times in the games we have taken something from. Unfortunately this is something we need to get used to because if we are to achieve anything (by this i mean a top 14 finish) this season then we will need to have an element of luck in every game we take a draw or a defeat.

Were not the finished article, were not flashy but there is enough quality scattered around for us to have a less worrying season than lots predict providing the effort is there, collectively they back one another and we somehow over the next 4-8 weeks considerably improve our structure as a unit.

 

[SUFC Guy]

When Seriki is back we will be more solid and more of an attacking threat. He's quick, can get forward and quick enought to get back. Based on this year's squad I would ideally want a starting line up for every game as follows:

Cooper

Seriki Tanganga Kitching McCallum

Donavan Peck Phillips BBD

Campbell Bamford

 

[FriethBlade]

Look we know the style of play isnt good and we are just hanging in there at the minute. However we are averaging 1.5pts per game (admittedly against largely lower half teams) and we are gradually getting players back to fitness.

The positives for me are that Doherty came on and will get fitter and hopefully be near to be being able to play regularly. Kitching will improve and hopefully be a help to Tanganga who has been a major disappointment. In midfield we are getting more minutes into Phillips and Blaster and I think a midfield 3 of those 2 and Peck will be more than decent when all are fully fit. Cannon is scoring, Bamford hasn't been at his best and will hopefully improve and Donovan has the X factor. With Seriki, One and Chong to come back plus the addition of Ayew we should stsrt to look a bit more dangerous.

Its not pretty and I know most of us are pissed off with the free signings of older unfit players on big wages but if it 'clicks' at some point we've got a solid base of points to build off. If it doesnt we should still be safe unless we get a points deduction.

 

[BladeByChoice]

We played very poorly tonight, I don't think there are many positives to take besides the points. I'm sure Wilder feels similar behind closed doors.

Read in a Jack Nicholson voice:

Son, we live in a world that has Sheffield United Football Club, and Sheffield United Football Club has to be managed by a man with pashun.

Who's gonna do it? You? Slavisa Jokanovic? Ruben Selles?

I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Gus Hamer and Andre Brooks and you curse Callum O'Hare.

You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that Thomas Cannons presence, while tragic, probably wins games.

And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me in this club. You need me in this club.

We use phrases like Out Run, Out Fight and Out Play. We use these phrases as the backbone of a life spent supporting Sheffield United. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a fan who sings and cheers at the very football that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just sang "He’s one of our own" and went on your way,

Otherwise, I suggest you put on your boots and play a game. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think I do behind closed doors!

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Read in a Jack Nicholson voice:

Son, we live in a world that has Sheffield United Football Club, and Sheffield United Football Club has to be managed by a man with pashun.

Who's gonna do it? You? Slavisa Jokanovic? Ruben Selles?

I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Gus Hamer and Andre Brooks and you curse Callum O'Hare.

You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that Thomas Cannons presence, while tragic, probably wins games.

And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me in this club. You need me in this club.

We use phrases like Out Run, Out Fight and Out Play. We use these phrases as the backbone of a life spent supporting Sheffield United. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a fan who sings and cheers at the very football that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just sang "He’s one of our own" and went on your way,

Otherwise, I suggest you put on your boots and play a game. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think I do behind closed doors!

That's like something Nigel Adkins would have come out with in a post match interview.

 

[Snowflake]

It’s our ninth season not being in the league below. We’ve played three in the league above since then and with the exception of last season, finished every other season in the top half of the league we are currently in.

Should we have been happy in league one that we were no longer in Division 4? What’s the cut-off for historic finishes defining how you should feel about the present?

Each of us presumably bases success against the average position during the years he/she has actively supported the team.
For those arriving since 2010 we are at present below expectations. For those that started pre 1960, anything might be happening !!

 

[Mario1889]

Bit pie in sky..we have a squad assembled without funds to be 9th tonight is a bloody miracle

We’ve assembled a squad with funds? Are you including our first goal scorer last night who cost us somewhere in the region of £10m?

 

[Hallamboy87]

When the back 4 can't win you games, you look to rely on your keeper. We can do that this season.

As a CB myself, only allowing a couple of shots on target per game as an aim. 0 the target. 5 shots on target all 90 minutes stats wise is a poor effort from them and a mighty good defensive stat by ourselves. Their xg on target was 1. So we did what we needed to do as the away team.

Sorry Dave, playing in a 5-a-side on Wednesday night is not the same! Hope your xxxl top fits you in these matches though and you enjoy your pint pointing the world to rights and saying how you could have been a pro but a knee injury stopped this when you were 32

 

[Sean Thornton]

Read in a Jack Nicholson voice:

Son, we live in a world that has Sheffield United Football Club, and Sheffield United Football Club has to be managed by a man with pashun.

Who's gonna do it? You? Slavisa Jokanovic? Ruben Selles?

I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Gus Hamer and Andre Brooks and you curse Callum O'Hare.

You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that Thomas Cannons presence, while tragic, probably wins games.

And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, wins games.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me in this club. You need me in this club.

We use phrases like Out Run, Out Fight and Out Play. We use these phrases as the backbone of a life spent supporting Sheffield United. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a fan who sings and cheers at the very football that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just sang "He’s one of our own" and went on your way,

Otherwise, I suggest you put on your boots and play a game. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think I do behind closed doors!

You can’t handle the hoof!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Sorry Dave, playing in a 5-a-side on Wednesday night is not the same! Hope your xxxl top fits you in these matches though and you enjoy your pint pointing the world to rights and saying how you could have been a pro but a knee injury stopped this when you were 32

Harsh………

 

[jt64]

championship is ridiculously competitive,, any win should bring a few smiles,, but that doesnt happen

Am I happy we won last night? Yes. Does that mean I have to throw every bid of objectivity out of the window? No. You can play like shit and win, but you still played like shit. Would you be crying if we put in the best performance we had in years yesterday and lost?

 

[MobileBlade]

I remember Michael Brown scoring 22 goals in a season for us, which is about as relevant as us once getting 92 points…

Not sure. That goal against Wednesday will live with me till the day I die.

 

[Gimli]

Not sure. That goal against Wednesday will live with me till the day I die.

I will die on the hill that his one against Ipswich in the cup a week or so later was a better goal.

Of course the Wednesday one meant way more!

 

[Bladeinleeds]

To me the 442 thing is dead in the water - we are getting dominated in The middle of the park. Conceding far too many attempts at our goal.

Got to credit the results but it’s not outside the realms of possibility we could have been sat here having lost the last 3/4

We have a squad where there’s an 11 that could challenge at the top end - we do have some really good championship talent. Wilders job is to get that to translate on the pitch. Whether he can manage that will let us know if he’s here for the longer term.

Green shoots but

Seriki back
Phillips being fit for 90mins
Cannon finding some form
Donnovan progressing
and you start to think more positively about the season.

 

[Dave]

Sorry Dave, playing in a 5-a-side on Wednesday night is not the same! Hope your xxxl top fits you in these matches though and you enjoy your pint pointing the world to rights and saying how you could have been a pro but a knee injury stopped this when you were 32

Firstly, im Xl not XXXL, secondly im 34, thirdly its 7 a side. I could have been a pro, pro at drinking. I am a pro at Football Manager, ask my wife.

Other than that your post is 100% accurate. Thanks for the constructive feedback, please send more. Ill get Foxy to put it in my annual post reviews.

UTB

 

[S64 Blade]

Each of us presumably bases success against the average position during the years he/she has actively supported the team.
For those arriving since 2010 we are at present below expectations. For those that started pre 1960, anything might be happening !!

I’ve actually checked this. Our average position since 2010 is 34th in the pyramid, equivalent to 14th in the Championship. Since since 1960 it’s 29th and since 1950 it’s 28th.

So by your own logic, younger supporters should have lower expectations than older ones.

The reality is that more people will measure our success on the last 3-5 years, rather than across massive time horizons that have no direct impact on today.

Even so, to use your logic, we’ve spent only 12 of our 123 Football League seasons below the second tier. More than 90% of our league history has been in the top two divisions. Being above League One isn’t an achievement for Sheffield United. That six-year spell was a historic failure, not the benchmark against which everything afterwards should be judged.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Firstly, im Xl not XXXL, secondly im 34, thirdly its 7 a side. I could have been a pro, pro at drinking. I am a pro at Football Manager, ask my wife.

Other than that your post is 100% accurate. Thanks for the constructive feedback, please send more. Ill get Foxy to put it in my annual post reviews.

UTB

Not the best CV l’ve ever seen.

 

[Hallamboy87]

Firstly, im Xl not XXXL, secondly im 34, thirdly its 7 a side. I could have been a pro, pro at drinking. I am a pro at Football Manager, ask my wife.

Other than that your post is 100% accurate. Thanks for the constructive feedback, please send more. Ill get Foxy to put it in my annual post reviews.

UTB

Sorry! Hope the walking football keeps you active

 

[blade too long]

Hard to disagree at the moment.

Of the opening 6 games, I’d say Birmingham & Swansea were fair points but the draw against Cardiff and the wins against Bolton and Blackburn were somewhat fortuitous, to put it mildly. The defeat against Norwich was a pretty fair result as well.

So to be on 9 points is remarkable.

how often do the best sides in the country win games by 1 goal after looking in the main off the plot
this is a much changed squad trying to adapt to each other and playing Wilderball
cut them some slack , in any walk of life if you turn up at work and theres a load of fresh faces, it doesnt always run smooth

but there was enough spirit alone to turn the game around

its like some blades fans have memories of past blades squads being all singing all dancing squads that attack for 90 minutes

kindly remind us when this was
weve always in the championship gone up in 2nd spot , a hint that we always lose one or two too many, but Iver only watched us since 1961

 

[Dave]

Not the best CV l’ve ever seen.

So far...

 

[Dave]

Sorry! Hope the walking football keeps you active

More active than sitting on blades forums attempting to be funny.

 

[LiamBG]

I remember us getting 92 points and some fans still wanted him out!

Yeah, some fans that can see the bigger picture

 

[Hallamboy87]

More active than sitting on blades forums attempting to be funny.

Attempting?!?!

 

[ChefYouKnighted1889]

Shit squad hes assembled they say

Lost the plot.. tactically inept sold the family silver


But...he still wins games despite not getting a bean to buy in

Up to 9th same points as millwall in 8th play off spot.....

Nasty habit ..winning upsets a lot of posters

I think your username is spot on

 

[luffenhamblade]

Yeah, some fans that can see the bigger picture

That went well...

 

[Snowflake]

I’ve actually checked this. Our average position since 2010 is 34th in the pyramid, equivalent to 14th in the Championship. Since since 1960 it’s 29th and since 1950 it’s 28th.

So by your own logic, younger supporters should have lower expectations than older ones.

The reality is that more people will measure our success on the last 3-5 years, rather than across massive time horizons that have no direct impact on today.

Even so, to use your logic, we’ve spent only 12 of our 123 Football League seasons below the second tier. More than 90% of our league history has been in the top two divisions. Being above League One isn’t an achievement for Sheffield United. That six-year spell was a historic failure, not the benchmark against which everything afterwards should be judged.

Sadly most people’s view on topics is clouded by their own visions of what has happened rather than what actually happened.
My personal view of the last 67 years is that we have generally been in the top half of division 2, which I think your examination bears out. I can remember us playing in Division 4 but bizarrely nothing about the league above that !