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If we have to pay every time Woodburn doesn't start like what was rumoured earlier this season, I would 100% send him back in January.

Wilder said that we'd factored in the cost of not playing him when we made the deal, but paying anything on a player who can't get in the side is a waste.
 
Or Chesterfield
I have a theory that he’s struggling with the pressure of playing in front of big crowds so that wouldn’t be a bad idea. Might give him a kick up the arse too when he meets other non league players who came through the big club academies, got released and had to start back at the bottom.
 
I have a theory that he’s struggling with the pressure of playing in front of big crowds so that wouldn’t be a bad idea. Might give him a kick up the arse too when he meets other non league players who came through the big club academies, got released and had to start back at the bottom.

I don't think it's even that. He just looks disinterested to me.Wilder likes to play at 100% intensity where you can't switch off. Woodburn is a typical "flair" player that drifts out of games for long periods then will do something amazing. Unfortunately, he needs to be on the game 100% of the time.
 
I have a theory that he’s struggling with the pressure of playing in front of big crowds so that wouldn’t be a bad idea. Might give him a kick up the arse too when he meets other non league players who came through the big club academies, got released and had to start back at the bottom.
I think he’s just struggling to displace a little ginger chap
 
He came from Liverpool as a wonder kid, played for Wales, viewed as the next big thing and then gets into the real world.
Has to be part of a team, work hard and integrate. Seems he has not done this as he is no doubt talented, and CW has told him to buck his ideas up, this has not happened and he is subsequently going to be sent back.
CW does not tolerate billy big bollox attitudes.
 



Ben scored a crucial goal for Wales and had most of them singing his praises , i dont think the , he is from Liverpool so must be good , has helped him , but eventually , i expect Ben to do well , he has never been to big for his boots , in interviews , its the media thats hyped him up .

He’s got plenty of time still to progress. Matt Lowton and David Brooks were 20 before they even made their league debuts – Woodburn has only just turned 19 and already has experience of three different first team set-ups. But we can’t wait for him to bounce back tbh, and unless something remarkable happens over the next few weeks I can’t see him staying.
 
Ultimately we've no idea why Woodburn hasn't worked out - could be confidence, could be he cant play the system or could be that he can't handle senior football.

His move clearly hasn't worked out and I'm happy to see him go back but don't see the need to label him 'Billy Big Bollocks'. Same school of thought that labels players who cant play through injury as 'wage stealing cunts' or (when we lose) that a heavy drinking culture is rife at the club because Wilder was a bit pissed during the open top bus parade.
 
Ultimately we've no idea why Woodburn hasn't worked out - could be confidence, could be he cant play the system or could be that he can't handle senior football.

His move clearly hasn't worked out and I'm happy to see him go back but don't see the need to label him 'Billy Big Bollocks'. Same school of thought that labels players who cant play through injury as 'wage stealing cunts' or (when we lose) that a heavy drinking culture is rife at the club because Wilder was a bit pissed during the open top bus parade.

Well said mate. Too often a vocal minority (I hope) allows itself the opportunity to make scathing comments that have no basis in fact. If the same posters are like this away from the forum I'd hate to think what their social life is like.
 
If we have to pay every time Woodburn doesn't start like what was rumoured earlier this season, I would 100% send him back in January.
I'd send him back now, not good enough to wear the shirt.
 
Too often a vocal minority (I hope) allows itself the opportunity to make scathing comments that have no basis in fact. If the same posters are like this away from the forum I'd hate to think what their social life is like.

It's pretty shit to be honest, but thanks for asking.
 
You know on the news when a reporter chases a politician down the street, asking for comments, and the politician answers because they need to keep looking civil, but really wants to tell them to fuck off? Thats what this sounded like. Just let Giddings do it in future.
 



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