Wilder Turning It Round

[sitwell]

Nice how Wilder gets time to turn it around but not Selles.
Never change, United. Always look backwards.

Would have needed 3 years not 3 months, and only then if Wilder was assistant manager.

 

[Laney Blade]

He's crap.

Never wanted him this time, last time, or the time before that.

Wasted millions, no idea on tactics or substitutes.

Wilder aaaahhhht

Shows what you know .....NOWT

 

[SE1Blade]

These are the same bunch of players many of us lambasted as useless at the start of the season. And they were useless. Something's changed. Playing with a smile on their faces now, enjoying their football. It was clear, or it is now, that we didn't have a bad team just an underperforming one. Tactics were wrong. Management was wrong. Wilder has to take credit for turning it around. Now we have confidence.

Only Mee and Tanganga (who Wilder tried to sign in Jan) were Selles signings of the starting 11, and only Soumare and McGuinness of the subs who came on. It’s a Wilder team again.

Bindon, Barry, Godfrey not in squad. Chong not played a minute yet. Matos not fancied. McGuinness dropped and Ogbene injured.

Selles signings really were poor. It’s leaving the above players out that has strengthened our team.

 

[DerbyDave]

Chris Wilder bleeds red and white..he's a passionate Sheffield United supporter.
Yes he upsets a few people in opposition..so what ?
He's turning things around, had a look at O'hares interview.. clearly the players are delighted he's back
I look in occasionally here , and I'm stunned at those who want him out
Shame on every single one of you

 

[Keen Blade]

Huge win today. We were outstanding first half, second half we ultimately had to show our resilience to gut it out. Leicester have plenty of quality.

Another building block, but we are playing much better - more direct and creating more chances.

It’s promising and really enjoyable as a fanbase to see a team and unit emerging, but another big test ahead.

One huge change in the last 3 games is not one attempt to play out from the goalie - which was killing us.

Why didn't Wilder change that immediately instead of continuing the farting about in our own box / our own half ?

 

[Rodley]

One huge change in the last 3 games is not one attempt to play out from the goalie - which was killing us.

Why didn't Wilder change that immediately instead of continuing the farting about in our own box / our own half ?

Who knows, but I don’t necessarily subscribe to the fan fiction that it’s always easy to change stuff around straight away. Injuries, training ground form, individual motivations contribute to the decision making process which were not privy to.

 

[Keen Blade]

We’d lost our first 5 games, looked absolutely shite and had a squad of absolute misfits, including 5 loans of which none have made anything like a significant positive contribution to the side.

there’s absolutely no way that play offs can be considered ‘the minimum’ when he came in.

We were playing shite and losing games AFTER he came in.
Dunno why it's taken him until last Sunday to change from bloody awful tippy tappy frustrating play out from the back at a snails pace football
To
Boot it forward (accurately) pressurize the opposition attack quickly move like lightening football.
The games we should have won and didn't
Anyway , he's finally worked out what every fan could have told him ,
Bless him

 

[Keen Blade]

Who knows, but I don’t necessarily subscribe to the fan fiction that it’s always easy to change stuff around straight away. Injuries, training ground form, individual motivations contribute to the decision making process which were not privy to.

Yeh , good point.
Interesting though , that the last 3 games have been much better than most of the games that got him the 92 points last season.

Coventry are running away with the league , but despite losing we gave them a good game and we're ahead.

Contrast that with our 4 games v Leeds & Burnley last season.

On paper we're a weaker side this season , but have performed way better than last season v the top of the league.

At the very least, I am optimistic for some exciting entertainment from us , never mind where we finish.

 

[The Crab]

Anybody expecting a 2 match turn round was hopelessly optimistic.
It was going to take time, it has, and we are now so much better.
And we have the JTW to come.
Onnads and uppads

Not sure I completely agree with your first paragraph. We were still losing but just less crap. Anyway, I’ve been negative enough and I need to park that.

This last week has been a turnaround, beating the pigs was pivotal. Lose that and I’m not sure we get much from the other two games either. That has given us momentum on the pitch and mentally as well.

Caveat time now (I’m sorry there had to be one). Our new found and well earned confidence is very brittle, as demonstrated in the 2nd half yesterday. But we remained resilient enough to get it done.

I have questions about Cooper. Not about ability, he has tons of that. He’s lacking confidence, something that is vital to a keeper. Also, he’s deffo carrying a back injury and has been for some time.

The alternatives, and this remains a hill I will die on, are nowhere near good enough. One of the priorities for January is a solid back up with experience. We don’t need plastic internationals, we need a keeper with ability and a cool head.

 

[Kenilworth]

Not sure I completely agree with your first paragraph. We were still losing but just less crap. Anyway, I’ve been negative enough and I need to park that.

This last week has been a turnaround, beating the pigs was pivotal. Lose that and I’m not sure we get much from the other two games either. That has given us momentum on the pitch and mentally as well.

Caveat time now (I’m sorry there had to be one). Our new found and well earned confidence is very brittle, as demonstrated in the 2nd half yesterday. But we remained resilient enough to get it done.

I have questions about Cooper. Not about ability, he has tons of that. He’s lacking confidence, something that is vital to a keeper. Also, he’s deffo carrying a back injury and has been for some time.

The alternatives, and this remains a hill I will die on, are nowhere near good enough. One of the priorities for January is a solid back up with experience. We don’t need plastic internationals, we need a keeper with ability and a cool head.

Agree about Coops.
He’s suffering and is not confident that his body can do what he wants it to do

 

[Kenilworth]

Yeh , good point.
Interesting though , that the last 3 games have been much better than most of the games that got him the 92 points last season.

Coventry are running away with the league , but despite losing we gave them a good game and we're ahead.

Contrast that with our 4 games v Leeds & Burnley last season.

On paper we're a weaker side this season , but have performed way better than last season v the top of the league.

At the very least, I am optimistic for some exciting entertainment from us , never mind where we finish.

We played very well vs Leeds in the home fixture. Up until the equaliser. Then they went for the jugular. My Leeds supporting mate was very worried until that point.

 

[Keen Blade]

He jumped on Knill's back at the end as they left the pitch.

I'm just pleased he didn't do it to a few of our players

It's ok - Knilly's legs can't bend any further

 

[Keen Blade]

Not sure I completely agree with your first paragraph. We were still losing but just less crap. Anyway, I’ve been negative enough and I need to park that.

This last week has been a turnaround, beating the pigs was pivotal. Lose that and I’m not sure we get much from the other two games either. That has given us momentum on the pitch and mentally as well.

Caveat time now (I’m sorry there had to be one). Our new found and well earned confidence is very brittle, as demonstrated in the 2nd half yesterday. But we remained resilient enough to get it done.

I have questions about Cooper. Not about ability, he has tons of that. He’s lacking confidence, something that is vital to a keeper. Also, he’s deffo carrying a back injury and has been for some time.

The alternatives, and this remains a hill I will die on, are nowhere near good enough. One of the priorities for January is a solid back up with experience. We don’t need plastic internationals, we need a keeper with ability and a cool head.

As you are no doubt aware , Coops was cheap coz of known prior knee injuries.
He was treated for this on the pitch yesterday.
I fully agree with you that if he also has a vulnerability in his back , we should definitely get a solid no. 2 keeper in January.
In my eyes , Davies has shown he's not up to this level and Faxon looks like a very slightly built teenager who is not ready to tolerate the rough & tumble of a Championship campaign.

Please Blades - solve a potential problem that all can see before it bites us on the arse.

 

[gordoncharles]

As you are no doubt aware , Coops was cheap coz of known prior knee injuries.
He was treated for this on the pitch yesterday.

Do people truly believe that he was been "treated" for an actual injury?

 

[Berkshire Blade]

We were playing shite and losing games AFTER he came in.
Dunno why it's taken him until last Sunday to change from bloody awful tippy tappy frustrating play out from the back at a snails pace football
To
Boot it forward (accurately) pressurize the opposition attack quickly move like lightening football.
The games we should have won and didn't
Anyway , he's finally worked out what every fan could have told him ,
Bless him

He's had 13 games. We've won 6. Hardly brilliant if taken out of context but the miles off it when we came in it certainly is a improvement.

Having Bamford has improved us slightly as he's a different style of forward. If we had a Moore or Mcburnie all season long the turn this week would have been in place far earlier

Last ten games we've picked up enough points to be 3 points off 3rd in the form table and 4 off second.

 

[Koh Samui Blade]

WUEDP?

One huge change in the last 3 games is not one attempt to play out from the goalie - which was killing us.

Why didn't Wilder change that immediately instead of continuing the farting about in our own box / our own half ?

Teams play that way when they have a lone striker, longer ball doesn't work if this system is being used,unless your Man City or equivalent.
We changed to a front 2 a month ago, check the results/ performance since!

 

[Koh Samui Blade]

WUEDP?

So let me get this straight - we beat the bottom team, the third from bottom team, and just hold on against the ninth from bottom team, and we have to assume that this is managerial genius and we should all be sucking Wilder's dick rather than the team doing exactly what is par for the course?

 

[The Crab]

As you are no doubt aware , Coops was cheap coz of known prior knee injuries.
He was treated for this on the pitch yesterday.
I fully agree with you that if he also has a vulnerability in his back , we should definitely get a solid no. 2 keeper in January.
In my eyes , Davies has shown he's not up to this level and Faxon looks like a very slightly built teenager who is not ready to tolerate the rough & tumble of a Championship campaign.

Please Blades - solve a potential problem that all can see before it bites us on the arse.

Yeah I knew about the knee thing. I thought it was it’s back as that’s what they said on radio she’d so thank you for clearing that one up.

It’s a manageable thing but it does need a replacement of suitable quality

 

[wadblade]

So let me get this straight - we beat the bottom team, the third from bottom team, and just hold on against the ninth from bottom team, and we have to assume that this is managerial genius and we should all be sucking Wilder's dick rather than the team doing exactly what is par for the course?

It was compared to Selles

 

[Northernsoulblade]

So let me get this straight - we beat the bottom team, the third from bottom team, and just hold on against the ninth from bottom team, and we have to assume that this is managerial genius and we should all be sucking Wilder's dick rather than the team doing exactly what is par for the course?

We would have lost these games a few weeks ago so some credit to wilder who is a blade through and through even if he’s not everyone’s cup of tea

 

[Frank the tank]

He's not fit he needs replacing asap
If we can't get a decent free in like Forster then we will have to wait till Jan and get him the treatment he needs as it's doing him no favours playing in this state
He has hardly made a save all season

 

[pollster]

We’d lost our first 5 games, looked absolutely shite and had a squad of absolute misfits, including 5 loans of which none have made anything like a significant positive contribution to the side.

there’s absolutely no way that play offs can be considered ‘the minimum’ when he came in.

Wilder got 92 points last season and was said to be a top manager
Despite achieving nothing (ie promotion) at the club.
As his previous two seasons here of embarrassing relegations.
Wilder came in after 5 league games.
0 points.
But how many points did he get from those 5 (equivalent) games last season?
15? 13? 12?...
No 4!
3 at Swansea 1 v Bristol City.
Relegation not promotion 'successful' form!
Last season Wilder achieved 88 points from his 41 league games this season.
Usually a second spot finish and promotion.
Statistics

Those 5 games were played largely with half the senior squad Wilder now has.
Wilder's biggest assets are bullying, BS, a subservient idiotic local press and fan base
and an ignorant unconcerned wider press, one of whom at Talksport tipped SUFC for Champions!
As last year we are one of only 4 teams with the advantage of parachute payments.
A promotion challenge IS to be expected.
But he still plays the same inverted 'wingers' that failed to entertain or succeed last year.
Thank God for corners Seriki McCallum and Ogbene to various extents getting crosses that created chances as yesterday.
Thankfully this league is even worse than last year and every game is winnable for a team with the assets to do well and a rare good manager.
If Wilder IS a good manager playoffs IS to be expected
As Hecky achieved after taking over with no money to spend after another failed manager.

 

[KMC-1889]

It’s 3 games against two teams that are odds on to be relegated and one team with a PL hang over and a squad not buying into the new manager (sounds familiar).

Going to wait for a bit of consistency before getting the bunting out. He’s definitely got the squad playing to it’s level for now, let’s see how we get on against some of the stronger teams.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Greenwich Blade]

Wilder got 92 points last season and was said to be a top manager
Despite achieving nothing (ie promotion) at the club.
As his previous two seasons here of embarrassing relegations.
Wilder came in after 5 league games.
0 points.
But how many points did he get from those 5 (equivalent) games last season?
15? 13? 12?...
No 4!
3 at Swansea 1 v Bristol City.
Relegation not promotion 'successful' form!
Last season Wilder achieved 88 points from his 41 league games this season.
Usually a second spot finish and promotion.
Statistics

Those 5 games were played largely with half the senior squad Wilder now has.
Wilder's biggest assets are bullying, BS, a subservient idiotic local press and fan base
and an ignorant unconcerned wider press, one of whom at Talksport tipped SUFC for Champions!
As last year we are one of only 4 teams with the advantage of parachute payments.
A promotion challenge IS to be expected.
But he still plays the same inverted 'wingers' that failed to entertain or succeed last year.
Thank God for corners Seriki McCallum and Ogbene to various extents getting crosses that created chances as yesterday.
Thankfully this league is even worse than last year and every game is winnable for a team with the assets to do well and a rare good manager.
If Wilder IS a good manager playoffs IS to be expected
As Hecky achieved after taking over with no money to spend after another failed manager.

I thought United were doing away with the AI bloke..?

 

[Keen Blade]

We played very well vs Leeds in the home fixture. Up until the equaliser. Then they went for the jugular. My Leeds supporting mate was very worried until that point.

Fair point and I suppose my observation says as much about Coventry & the strength of the league this season as it does about us.
But I've been more impressed in the the last 3 games than on many occasions last season.

 

[Keen Blade]

Do people truly believe that he was been "treated" for an actual injury?

Well I never !
And he has such an honest face too

 

[S64 Blade]

I said a few weeks ago we’d need at least z5 points from the last 3 games to have a chance of staying. Well, we’ve blown all my expectations out of the water! I was feeling really negative and couldn’t see us improving a great deal, but we have and we’ve done it with some consistency now, too, which is very important.

 

[Tony Currie]

It’s 3 games against two teams that are odds on to be relegated and one team with a PL hang over and a squad not buying into the new manager (sounds familiar).

Going to wait for a bit of consistency before getting the bunting out. He’s definitely got the squad playing to it’s level for now, let’s see how we get on against some of the stronger teams.

So three wins in three and 3 goals in each is not consistency? Not sure what you have been watching but we also deserved something out of the Coventry game away from home and they are the best in the league.

Whether you like it or not certain managers fit United. Hecky, Warnock, Blackwell and Wilder. Also a special mention goes to Alan Knill who is internationally recognised as an excellent coach. Steve Bettis made the right decision ringing up Wilder and we are very lucky Leicester didn't fancy him. I'm sure with the players they have Wilder would have them top.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Chris Wilder bleeds red and white..he's a passionate Sheffield United supporter.
Yes he upsets a few people in opposition..so what ?
He's turning things around, had a look at O'hares interview.. clearly the players are delighted he's back
I look in occasionally here , and I'm stunned at those who want him out
Shame on every single one of you

For me I will hold my hands up happily and say yes he is proving me wrong and doing a good job as I didn't think Wilder MK3 was a good Idea. From my view the lack of comms of the summer and how we lost top players didn't help a situation, Selles wasn't going to succeed here. However personally and I will always stand by this, I don't understand why we sacked Hecky when we did. He was stripped of players at the start of the season, given next to no budget and was expected to do something. When the season before he got us to the FA Cup Semis and autos. Wilder MK2 wheels fell off and it was less about upsetting people etc but looking at the results from March where we dropped from top of the league to 3rd it was having an effect on the club. Wilder MK3 seems to be more levelled headed in his analysis of the matches and calmer all around which is what we need. He is a great man manager and also being a blade helps if he keeps his head.