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I think he just wants the season to end so he can ditch half the squad and bring in more accomplished players and have a good pre season, which he indicated is already programmed .
His ability as a Championship manager will be tested in the next 6 months.

I thought the re build he did after the last relegation was one of his best ever achievements, considering how mentally destroyed that team was. But arguably this summer is his biggest challenge yet. Presumably his budget will be significantly reduced, and it's a near certainty we are going to lose some of our most talented players to fund incomings. Hamer being a case in point. Despite the howling miss, we saw the absolute best of what he can do yesterday. Players like him are not easily replaced.
 
I thought the re build he did after the last relegation was one of his best ever achievements, considering how mentally destroyed that team was. But arguably this summer is his biggest challenge yet. Presumably his budget will be significantly reduced, and it's a near certainty we are going to lose some of our most talented players to fund incomings. Hamer being a case in point. Despite the howling miss, we saw the absolute best of what he can do yesterday. Players like him are not easily replaced.
We also saw his lazy side.
He ran more, yesterday, but he’s a liability when we’re out of possession.
When Peck goes off there is no one to make a tackle.
 
We also saw his lazy side.
He ran more, yesterday, but he’s a liability when we’re out of possession.
When Peck goes off there is no one to make a tackle.

Yeah it's part of the package with him sadly, which I suppose is why he is still at this level. He can be a magician with the ball at his feet though.
 
I think he just wants the season to end so he can ditch half the squad and bring in more accomplished players and have a good pre season, which he indicated is already programmed .
His ability as a Championship manager will be tested in the next 6 months.
I might be worried about which half of the squad he’s ditching.
 
Worrying that he has no confidence in anyone beyond the first 11 based on what he said in the interview. The likes of Chong, Matos, McGuinness are on long term contracts and he’s basically said that they’re not good enough to force the current players out of the team despite underperforming this season.

He’s very much pointing out the problems, he now needs to rectify them.
 
Tanganga, Bindon, Chong & Ogebene were the non-Wilder signings in the squad yesterday. No matter how he tries to dress it up, the bulk of this group that are surrendering leads regularly are his players brought in over the past 2 years.

January’s horrendous window (nearly as bad as the summer by the way) gives me little confidence in him suddenly getting it right in the summer.

Oh and of course, none of the 30 points we’ve tossed away have been from tactical errors. None at all.
 



Tanganga, Bindon, Chong & Ogebene were the non-Wilder signings in the squad yesterday. No matter how he tries to dress it up, the bulk of this group that are surrendering leads regularly are his players brought in over the past 2 years.

January’s horrendous window (nearly as bad as the summer by the way) gives me little confidence in him suddenly getting it right in the summer.

Oh and of course, none of the 30 points we’ve tossed away have been from tactical errors. None at all.
January TW’s are a nightmare especially when you know you have to try and save a season. Not confident but definitely happy to see how he can transform squad for next season if he is staying. Either way it’s make or break.
 
I thought the re build he did after the last relegation was one of his best ever achievements, considering how mentally destroyed that team was. But arguably this summer is his biggest challenge yet. Presumably his budget will be significantly reduced, and it's a near certainty we are going to lose some of our most talented players to fund incomings. Hamer being a case in point. Despite the howling miss, we saw the absolute best of what he can do yesterday. Players like him are not easily replaced.
Last time his nibs had a major budget he blew it on Brewster
Not much faith on him doing anything with zero budget
 
Last time his nibs had a major budget he blew it on Brewster
Not much faith on him doing anything with zero budget

He did his best ever work for us without a notable budget, wheeling and dealing on the back of a couple of big sales along the way. Like you say, when he has cash to spend, he doesn't always get it right.
 
Worrying that he has no confidence in anyone beyond the first 11 based on what he said in the interview. The likes of Chong, Matos, McGuinness are on long term contracts and he’s basically said that they’re not good enough to force the current players out of the team despite underperforming this season.

He’s very much pointing out the problems, he now needs to rectify them.

Yes he may think that inwardly (as most of us do) but he's basically said he doesn't rate 2/3rds of the squad or consider them even good enough to even hold a 3-1 lead v an average Swansea side.

Said they aren't good enough.

Not sure that's great man management myself?

He now has to try and move most of them on but be a hard task.

We have a hugely bloated squad currently but have accumulated some absolute garbage.

The loans will go back, Hoever, Bindon, Hjelde, Ogbene, Phillips, Soumare = 6

He will lose out of contract players...Davies x 2, Mee, Riedewald, Ings = 5

So 11 off the books

Leaving us around 28-30 players including youngsters.

You'd expect Hamer and one or two of Brooks/Peck/Seriki to go.

Meaning we have around 25 left including Faxon, Baptiste, Blacker, Marsh & One (5 young players) but over half of the remainder 20 are absolute dross and he needs to somehow offload a large number of the below.

Grbic, Shackleton, Norrington Davies, Curtis, Zatterstrom, McGuiness, Matos, Chong, Ukaki, Nwachukwu, Rothwell, Cannon/Campbell = 12

All under contract. Least half on longer than a year more!

He will do well to find takers for even half of them.

We aren't going to have much wriggle room at all and will have to be very creative.

Assuming Cooper, Seriki, Burrows, McCallum, Blaster, maybe one of Peck/Brooks, O Hare, Bamford, Cannon or Campbell remain = that is around 8-9 players.

It really does show you how much work needs to be done.
 
Yes he may think that inwardly (as most of us do) but he's basically said he doesn't rate 2/3rds of the squad or consider them even good enough to even hold a 3-1 lead v an average Swansea side.

Said they aren't good enough.

Not sure that's great man management myself?

He now has to try and move most of them on but be a hard task.

We have a hugely bloated squad currently but have accumulated some absolute garbage.

The loans will go back, Hoever, Bindon, Hjelde, Ogbene, Phillips, Soumare = 6

He will lose out of contract players...Davies x 2, Mee, Riedewald, Ings = 5

So 11 off the books

Leaving us around 28-30 players including youngsters.

You'd expect Hamer and one or two of Brooks/Peck/Seriki to go.

Meaning we have around 25 left including Faxon, Baptiste, Blacker, Marsh & One (5 young players) but over half of the remainder 20 are absolute dross and he needs to somehow offload a large number of the below.

Grbic, Shackleton, Norrington Davies, Curtis, Zatterstrom, McGuiness, Matos, Chong, Ukaki, Nwachukwu, Rothwell, Cannon/Campbell = 12

All under contract. Least half on longer than a year more!

He will do well to find takers for even half of them.

We aren't going to have much wriggle room at all and will have to be very creative.

Assuming Cooper, Seriki, Burrows, McCallum, Blaster, maybe one of Peck/Brooks, O Hare, Bamford, Cannon or Campbell remain = that is around 8-9 players.

It really does show you how much work needs to be done.
Good, thorough analysis! 🤓 I approve. I really do hope that when Wilder comes to sort the wheat from the chaff, on that group of retained players - that players with athleticism and improvement potential get kept, and not because they are “culture carriers” ie for similar positions - keep Matos and sell/release Rothwell. Keep Curtis, bin Shacks, keep Zatterstrom bin McGuinness etc etc
 
I think he just wants the season to end so he can ditch half the squad and bring in more accomplished players and have a good pre season, which he indicated is already programmed .
His ability as a Championship manager will be tested in the next 6 months.
His ability as a Championship manager is amongst the very very best
 
Tanganga, Bindon, Chong & Ogebene were the non-Wilder signings in the squad yesterday. No matter how he tries to dress it up, the bulk of this group that are surrendering leads regularly are his players brought in over the past 2 years.

January’s horrendous window (nearly as bad as the summer by the way) gives me little confidence in him suddenly getting it right in the summer.

Oh and of course, none of the 30 points we’ve tossed away have been from tactical errors. None at all.

I don’t think you can seriously say Kalvin Phillips, Hoever (needed), Hjelde (needed) and Rothwell were anywhere near as bad as Matos, McGuinness, Ogbene, Chong, Zatterstrom, Mee, Ings, Godfrey and Barry.

Also ignoring that the best two signings this season (Bamford and Jairo) were made outside the transfer window. Because of this neither came match fit but still significantly improved our first 11 for an hour each match.

I dread to think where we’d be without Wilder. And look at last pre-season for an example as the board sacked him as many fans wanted despite the team earning 92 points.

It’s time we learnt some humility and accepted he is improving us, just slower than we hoped. But from his interviews I think he’s seeing the same things we are.
 
Yes he may think that inwardly (as most of us do) but he's basically said he doesn't rate 2/3rds of the squad or consider them even good enough to even hold a 3-1 lead v an average Swansea side.

Said they aren't good enough.

Not sure that's great man management myself?

He now has to try and move most of them on but be a hard task.

We have a hugely bloated squad currently but have accumulated some absolute garbage.

The loans will go back, Hoever, Bindon, Hjelde, Ogbene, Phillips, Soumare = 6

He will lose out of contract players...Davies x 2, Mee, Riedewald, Ings = 5

So 11 off the books

Leaving us around 28-30 players including youngsters.

You'd expect Hamer and one or two of Brooks/Peck/Seriki to go.

Meaning we have around 25 left including Faxon, Baptiste, Blacker, Marsh & One (5 young players) but over half of the remainder 20 are absolute dross and he needs to somehow offload a large number of the below.

Grbic, Shackleton, Norrington Davies, Curtis, Zatterstrom, McGuiness, Matos, Chong, Ukaki, Nwachukwu, Rothwell, Cannon/Campbell = 12

All under contract. Least half on longer than a year more!

He will do well to find takers for even half of them.

We aren't going to have much wriggle room at all and will have to be very creative.

Assuming Cooper, Seriki, Burrows, McCallum, Blaster, maybe one of Peck/Brooks, O Hare, Bamford, Cannon or Campbell remain = that is around 8-9 players.

It really does show you how much work needs to be done.
Good analysis. It was strange that he said he’d rather play Seriki than Hoever due to the latter being a loan signing, but it shows how bad McGuinness is that he won’t use him instead of Bindon.

He was annoyed with Burrows, saying that he has no competition, basically saying “he’s shit but I have no choice”. In my opinion Hjelde must be worth a go, he surely wouldn’t attempt a backheel in the middle of a slide tackle and pass it straight to an opposition striker in our box.

Some of the shite we have on our books and under contract is a worry. I agree that we’ll lose Hamer, Peck and Brooks.

Jairo’s wages will be an easy reason to not renew him.

We have some absolute dross on the books as you’ve said. I do think Wilder is the man to get rid of the majority and replace on a budget, but would love to see some changes in the overall management of the football side of the club (I.e. put a proper structure in place for when Wilder leaves again).
 

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