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On Burke not being involved...

“It’s tactical. Oli Mac would have played today, unfortunate that he had tonsillitis and was kept away for four days.
There’s not much grass in behind when Chelsea go 2-1 up, they sit a little bit deeper and pace is not needed. Something else is needed and in my opinion Oli has done well against Liverpool and Man City.
The service the boys at the top are getting is not great.”
to be fair it's an explanation.

I might disagree. but we'd be in the conference if I was in charge
 

Played 30/40 minutes against Liverpool and Man City with 4 at the back and a number 10 in Didzy after we made substitutions.

Didn't concede a goal, made more chances.

Who knows what could have happened with the rest of the matches if we'd done it from the start, but if we're getting tonked 4-1 anyway, why not give it a go.
 
I'm not going to advocate any of the silliness imho tonight about Wilder's future but it's absolutely clear that he has a more negative approach and attitude this season.

It's evident in his comments and our performances.

Did we though? We finished ninth based on a tight defence and keeping clean sheets, let’s not forget we only scored 39 goals last season.

We were a negative team last season but we were winning matches. Now we can’t defend good enough this season and have a far worse keeper, we need a change of approach.
 
So you don’t play Burke because we were expecting to go behind and Chelsea to sit deep? And when do you not need pace? Has he lost the plot??

I suspect our best chance would have been to have Burke and McGoldrick on and try to press their defence into errors. They were pretty sloppy.
 
I suspect our best chance would have been to have Burke and McGoldrick on and try to press their defence into errors. They were pretty sloppy.

Agree.

In fact, having brought him in, he needs to find a way of getting Burke on the pitch more often than not.

In a league where we do not have any players who have the skill to be the difference for us in a game, Burke does at least have pace that outstrips pretty much everyone else on the pitch, whoever we are playing. He is certainly quicker than any defender and his presence will tend to make the opposition play 10 to 20 yards deeper.

His total disappearance since he was - wrongly in my opinion - taken off at Arsenal is slightly odd. Perhaps he is being punished for a little show of dissent at being subbed...
 
Agree.

In fact, having brought him in, he needs to find a way of getting Burke on the pitch more often than not.

In a league where we do not have any players who have the skill to be the difference for us in a game, Burke does at least have pace that outstrips pretty much everyone else on the pitch, whoever we are playing. He is certainly quicker than any defender and his presence will tend to make the opposition play 10 to 20 yards deeper.

His total disappearance since he was - wrongly in my opinion - taken off at Arsenal is slightly odd. Perhaps he is being punished for a little show of dissent at being subbed...

It's maddening. We're behind and need goals and yet he only uses two subs and not the one with the razor quick pace to maybe cause them some problems. If nothing else he could have pinned James or Chillwell back.

Instead we rolled over and showed them our belly.
 
lol ffs Chris.
Load of bollocks. Our worst performance tonight for me but not that an important game int he grand scheme of things. Forget games against the top 6 ( yes the old top 6) we have to beat west brom, Brighton, fulham, burnley and co. 34 points would keep us up this season I think we can do it.
 

Didn’t he say something about strikers don’t get a look in against Chelsea. Leave them out then and put an extra midfielder and defender on.
 
The reason we have to play Mcb is he’s the only one who can get a head on the king punts upfield so is the only striker at the the club likely to get a touch in the final third.
 
I can't understand why Burke didn't start yesterday pace frightens defenders and he has bags of pace, instead we start a young kid who in all the minutes on the pitch for us has had about 10 touches per game and done fuck all. I feel sorry for Brewster being thrown in at the deep end when he hasn't had a lot of football recently CW should have only used him from the bench to start with. It does seem strange that Burke hasn't had a look in since being hooked v Arsenal maybe it doesn't pay to show you don't agree with CW when being subbed.
 
Nope, just dislike the bullshit he is coming out with in recent interviews.

He is starting to sound like managers we have had previously.

Saying we have just played against some of the best players in the world isnt bull shit though...it’s factual and facing reality.
Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea all have a decent chance of winning the Champions League.

If he tells the media we should be taking points off these teams....most people (including the players) will think he’s delusional.

Lets take Atalanta....one of the best open attacking sides in Europe. They don’t defend and always take the game to the oppostion.
This week they play Liverpool who just pick them off on the break......score line Atalanta 0 Liverpool 5

Now let’s take Athletico Madrid in both legs against Liverpool....they defend in numbers and play a negative style....initially no ambition.
However their defence is like a wall and they know that at some point they’ll be able to counter attack..and try to take their chance.
Liverpool hate playing that style (like a game of chess) and lose to Athletico. They much prefer an open attacking game.
 
On Burke not being involved...

“It’s tactical. Oli Mac would have played today, unfortunate that he had tonsillitis and was kept away for four days.
There’s not much grass in behind when Chelsea go 2-1 up, they sit a little bit deeper and pace is not needed. Something else is needed and in my opinion Oli has done well against Liverpool and Man City.
The service the boys at the top are getting is not great.”
I must have watched a different game, because 2nd half, all I saw was Chelsea attack. Did we even get in their box? we needed to try something different (Burke) and we declined the offer. Why not put him on when the game was up? We're not even giving him a chance to show why we brought him here in the first place.

Edit: did anyone else see the game "open up" 2nd half??
 
I must have watched a different game, because 2nd half, all I saw was Chelsea attack. Did we even get in their box? we needed to try something different (Burke) and we declined the offer. Why not put him on when the game was up? We're not even giving him a chance to show why we brought him here in the first place.

Edit: did anyone else see the game "open up" 2nd half??
Me. It opened up because our midfield went missing giving Chelsea's players even more time to pick a pass. You know Ziyech is going to cut in onto his left every time he gets it: why switch the right footed Lundstram for the left footed Osborn?
 
Me. It opened up because our midfield went missing giving Chelsea's players even more time to pick a pass. You know Ziyech is going to cut in onto his left every time he gets it: why switch the right footed Lundstram for the left footed Osborn?
Bringing on Osborn for Lundstram at the moment is like being asking which bollock you’d like to be booted in.
 
Who’s got bingo??

“It’s been tough over last run of games, four out of the top six, three out of the top three best in the country and Chelsea bang in form
World class players, sometimes people don’t realise the competition we are up against - these are world-class players Giroud and Jorginho coming off the bench.”
All sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
 
Loving the nonsense on here tonight.

First goal left Ramsdale unsighted but I think he moves too soon for things and doesn't react, more expects.

Second goal Lowe loses his marker, individual error.

Fourth goal was just a stupid error again but luckily landed at their players feet one on one.

Just generally poor individual errors. Still think we'll come good.
Cringeworthy isn’t it? When the chips are down, you realise our fan base is just as wanky as the rest.
 

Let's hope when he keeps us up he doesn't remember what wankers our fans turned into when the chips were down and fuck off somewhere that deserves him
The people I speak to aren’t accurately represented on social media. I think Wilder is old school and recognises that.
 

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