Wilder is most forward-thinking manager in The Premier League

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Very fair, was one of the few who was complimentary about us when we were on Sky too.

On the "don't have brilliant players" I understand what he really means is "don't have world class players", but so far this season there are only two teams with a team of world class players and they're Citeh and Liverpool. The rest of the league is awash with "good" players, and it's going to be about which manager can get the best out of them and which have a few world class players to add to the mix the good players levels up a bit.

Tottenham rely on 3 or 4 world class players to get a team of average ones into the CL places for example.
 
How did Matt Prestidge manage to get from the duguts...
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To the away section... along with

Shane Warne, Matt LeTissier and Samuel L Jackson...?
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Jamie Redknapp was one of the punters that had us down to finish bottom.

No Enda Stevens in his team of the week. Unbelievable.

Lazy journalism.
 
'Forward thinking' - interesting label.

Our manager has been 'forward thinking' since he arrived in 2016. He came with over 700 managerial games under his belt and a whole load of learning.

He inherited a poor, unbalanced, tired and miserable squad and has built a squad incrementally, step by step, month by month ever since.

There has been a plan from Day 1 with the strategy ' incremental improvement' within budget which has not been just enough, no more, at each level.

All managers can spend money and maybe sign good players for too much money.

Wilder and Knill quickly assessed the capability of each player when they arrived and, more importantly, the strength and weaknesses of the group.

They had a clear-out, spent modest cash on good characters and a blend of skills and experiences. Got a balanced squad, got character throughout.

Plenty of all that to gain promotion and by the first Xmas they were planning for the Championship.

One year on, repeat exercise, incremental improvement, consolidation, strategy to consolidate up there comfortably achieved.

Another year on, more budget from earned extra income and the owners. Same repeat exercise; balanced squad, better players, characters. Really building for the Premier League now.

On Wilder's budget, that whole process is 'forward thinking' of immense magnitude and even bigger to pull it all off. An experienced manager and an experienced Assistant with enough common sense, instinct, people knowledge, player knowledge, group capability awareness and game awareness to be able to plan step by step over three years. Just look at our squad now!! Look at the way we play. look at the bench every week.

Added to all that is the 'old school' label, a lazy comment by Redknapp, a shallow pundit. He was probably well meaning and regarded it as a compliment but he should know it's also a lazy comment. However there is some truth in it because Wilder and Knill are 'old school' in certain parts of their leadership and they are the bits that generate team spirit, unity and understanding of players as themselves and as part of the playing system. 'Old school' in straight talking, day to day intensity on the training field, treating players like men not boys, having a few beers with them when appropriate and not just for the cameras when we win things.

'Old school' because he puts his best work in day by day, not just on the touchline in front of the cameras, not just in media interviews. Treats his players as men in such interviews and praises them when they earn it and bollocks 'em when they don't and that's very rare thankfully.

'Old school' yes but that's just a small part of the story Jamie. A story neither you or your Dad could never achieve in a million years. Our man says it as it is and not just for the cameras, mainly for the fans and the players. 'Old school' respect for the main folk who matter.

Reflection on how good managers couldn't even get the equivalent journey started at Bramall Lane shows the 'CWAK' achievements so far. The journey has not finished yet. Still no £5000 suit on the touchline, now that is 'old school' Jamie !!
 
Redknapp seems to actually watch and analyse games, unlike a lot of these ex-pros that just seem to make random throw away quotes and earn some money doing so!

I think that's true enough but I think he's fairly average. His role and his salary are the stuff of dreams but I don't ever learn from him like I do a couple of others and it's usually routine stuff.

I think he's alright but not that bright.
 
I disagree with Redknapp.

I think Wilder is an old-school dinosaur. He's got a team full of clunky, old, six footers who bully oppositions, get stuck in, intimidate their opponents and kick it long. No point in having a midfield. BOOM! ROUTE ONE!

Strange how Jamie Vardy's first goal on Saturday was BOOM ... bounce ... kick ... goal. Route one.

No one said a fucking dicky bird about it. See also that blatant red card tackle too.

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'Forward thinking' - interesting label.

Our manager has been 'forward thinking' since he arrived in 2016. He came with over 700 managerial games under his belt and a whole load of learning.

He inherited a poor, unbalanced, tired and miserable squad and has built a squad incrementally, step by step, month by month ever since.

There has been a plan from Day 1 with the strategy ' incremental improvement' within budget which has not been just enough, no more, at each level.

All managers can spend money and maybe sign good players for too much money.

Wilder and Knill quickly assessed the capability of each player when they arrived and, more importantly, the strength and weaknesses of the group.

They had a clear-out, spent modest cash on good characters and a blend of skills and experiences. Got a balanced squad, got character throughout.

Plenty of all that to gain promotion and by the first Xmas they were planning for the Championship.

One year on, repeat exercise, incremental improvement, consolidation, strategy to consolidate up there comfortably achieved.

Another year on, more budget from earned extra income and the owners. Same repeat exercise; balanced squad, better players, characters. Really building for the Premier League now.

On Wilder's budget, that whole process is 'forward thinking' of immense magnitude and even bigger to pull it all off. An experienced manager and an experienced Assistant with enough common sense, instinct, people knowledge, player knowledge, group capability awareness and game awareness to be able to plan step by step over three years. Just look at our squad now!! Look at the way we play. look at the bench every week.

Added to all that is the 'old school' label, a lazy comment by Redknapp, a shallow pundit. He was probably well meaning and regarded it as a compliment but he should know it's also a lazy comment. However there is some truth in it because Wilder and Knill are 'old school' in certain parts of their leadership and they are the bits that generate team spirit, unity and understanding of players as themselves and as part of the playing system. 'Old school' in straight talking, day to day intensity on the training field, treating players like men not boys, having a few beers with them when appropriate and not just for the cameras when we win things.

'Old school' because he puts his best work in day by day, not just on the touchline in front of the cameras, not just in media interviews. Treats his players as men in such interviews and praises them when they earn it and bollocks 'em when they don't and that's very rare thankfully.

'Old school' yes but that's just a small part of the story Jamie. A story neither you or your Dad could never achieve in a million years. Our man says it as it is and not just for the cameras, mainly for the fans and the players. 'Old school' respect for the main folk who matter.

Reflection on how good managers couldn't even get the equivalent journey started at Bramall Lane shows the 'CWAK' achievements so far. The journey has not finished yet. Still no £5000 suit on the touchline, now that is 'old school' Jamie !!

If you read the article, Redknapp specifically says it’s wrong and disrespectful to label Wilder as “old school”
 
I feel a bit schizophrenic here lol. On the one hand I'm thinking ....... excellent stuff Jamie, thanks for the compliments. On the other, I'm thinking ...... come on pretty Essex boy with the lardy dar suits, tell us something with some real depth, analysis and thought. Lazy, page filling cliche comments that took two minutes to write.
 
Wilder himself likes to perpetuate this 'old school' manager image in interviews. When we were in the Championship he would regularly say we 'run around a lot' and 'work hard', presumably either as throw-away comments so he didn't need to explain how we actually play or tongue-in-cheek as that's what the general opinion of our 'style' is to the ignorant.
 
If you read the article, Redknapp specifically says it’s wrong and disrespectful to label Wilder as “old school”


Oh buggar. I read the article completely wrongly. For some reason I thought it was an article by The Star reporting his comment. Too early in the morning.

Hands up, Lazy Social Media Member!!

Great post by me nevertheless:D. I've been looking for a link to match it too and perhaps that part explains my wishful thinking!!:rolleyes:

Should have dared to start a thread instead!!
 
Added to all that is the 'old school' label, a lazy comment by Redknapp, a shallow pundit. He was probably well meaning and regarded it as a compliment but he should know it's also a lazy comment. However there is some truth in it because Wilder and Knill are 'old school' in certain parts of their leadership and they are the bits that generate team spirit, unity and understanding of players as themselves and as part of the playing system. 'Old school' in straight talking, day to day intensity on the training field, treating players like men not boys, having a few beers with them when appropriate and not just for the cameras when we win things.

'Old school' because he puts his best work in day by day, not just on the touchline in front of the cameras, not just in media interviews. Treats his players as men in such interviews and praises them when they earn it and bollocks 'em when they don't and that's very rare thankfully.

'Old school' yes but that's just a small part of the story Jamie. A story neither you or your Dad could never achieve in a million years. Our man says it as it is and not just for the cameras, mainly for the fans and the players. 'Old school' respect for the main folk who matter.

Reflection on how good managers couldn't even get the equivalent journey started at Bramall Lane shows the 'CWAK' achievements so far. The journey has not finished yet. Still no £5000 suit on the touchline, now that is 'old school' Jamie !!

Why have you found it necessary to level a load of abuse at Redknapp when he's full of praise for our manager?

You say his old school comment is lazy and shallow, yet then agree with him.

As for Redknapp senior, I think you'll find our 'forward thinking' manager is actually very close to him and has received a lot of advice from him. He has mentioned on numerous occasions of speaking to him.

EDIT: Just read your apology for reading the article wrong lol.
 



I hope Jamie does an article on his cousin Frank's progressive football, lots of sideways passing, then try and lump it over the top to Tammy. Turning Chelsea into a long-ball side is an innovative idea not many would have come up with.
 
This forum’s reaction to:

Getting slagged off in the media by lazy pundits
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Getting praise in the media from pundits
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When someone refers to us as Sheffield
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Getting praised by other teams fans
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When someone tips us to go down even though it’s quite a reasonable prediction
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Getting slagged off by the other teams fans in Roygbiv view from
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Wolves spent the entire game at Everton hurling long throws into the box like a latter day Tony Pulis’ Stoke on Sunday.

But they have a Portuguese manager so it gets over looked.

Similarly Leicester knock long balls over the top for Vardy to run on to.

Personally I rarely get upset by ignorant punditry for two reasons. One I like being underestimated and written off, especially when I know we have capability to prove them wrong, but also think it's funny that these supposed experts get to look stupid and ignorant amongst their peers who do understand a bit more.

It's perfectly reasonable for people to predict us to fight relegation this season, but it's when they throw inaccurate 'facts' in as to the reason why.

Crooks saying we have a basic way of playing is up there with Parker's laughable description of us last season.
 
'Forward thinking' - interesting label.

Our manager has been 'forward thinking' since he arrived in 2016. He came with over 700 managerial games under his belt and a whole load of learning.

He inherited a poor, unbalanced, tired and miserable squad and has built a squad incrementally, step by step, month by month ever since.

There has been a plan from Day 1 with the strategy ' incremental improvement' within budget which has not been just enough, no more, at each level.

All managers can spend money and maybe sign good players for too much money.

Wilder and Knill quickly assessed the capability of each player when they arrived and, more importantly, the strength and weaknesses of the group.

They had a clear-out, spent modest cash on good characters and a blend of skills and experiences. Got a balanced squad, got character throughout.

Plenty of all that to gain promotion and by the first Xmas they were planning for the Championship.

One year on, repeat exercise, incremental improvement, consolidation, strategy to consolidate up there comfortably achieved.

Another year on, more budget from earned extra income and the owners. Same repeat exercise; balanced squad, better players, characters. Really building for the Premier League now.

On Wilder's budget, that whole process is 'forward thinking' of immense magnitude and even bigger to pull it all off. An experienced manager and an experienced Assistant with enough common sense, instinct, people knowledge, player knowledge, group capability awareness and game awareness to be able to plan step by step over three years. Just look at our squad now!! Look at the way we play. look at the bench every week.

Added to all that is the 'old school' label, a lazy comment by Redknapp, a shallow pundit. He was probably well meaning and regarded it as a compliment but he should know it's also a lazy comment. However there is some truth in it because Wilder and Knill are 'old school' in certain parts of their leadership and they are the bits that generate team spirit, unity and understanding of players as themselves and as part of the playing system. 'Old school' in straight talking, day to day intensity on the training field, treating players like men not boys, having a few beers with them when appropriate and not just for the cameras when we win things.

'Old school' because he puts his best work in day by day, not just on the touchline in front of the cameras, not just in media interviews. Treats his players as men in such interviews and praises them when they earn it and bollocks 'em when they don't and that's very rare thankfully.

'Old school' yes but that's just a small part of the story Jamie. A story neither you or your Dad could never achieve in a million years. Our man says it as it is and not just for the cameras, mainly for the fans and the players. 'Old school' respect for the main folk who matter.

Reflection on how good managers couldn't even get the equivalent journey started at Bramall Lane shows the 'CWAK' achievements so far. The journey has not finished yet. Still no £5000 suit on the touchline, now that is 'old school' Jamie !!

I'm not sure Redknapp labelled him 'Old School' at all. In fact i read it as he was criticising those that do.
 
says Jamie Redknapp:-

shut up Jamie. i'm digging it being totally under the radar!.. :D
pretty complimentary actually. he's right about Leicester. they are proper top 6 this season. our result last week won't look so bad in the cold light of day in march ;)
 
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They weren't at Stamford Bridge because they are still a lower-league side, only there to play in the third round of the FA Cup and enjoy a day out. They were there as a Premier League club in their own right. They were there to compete and they certainly played like that in the second half, no doubt after some stern words from Wilder at the interval.

Did he just rewrite Wilder's post match interview as his own words?
 
I think that's true enough but I think he's fairly average. His role and his salary are the stuff of dreams but I don't ever learn from him like I do a couple of others and it's usually routine stuff.

I think he's alright but not that bright.

He's a fine judge of character. He thinks James Corden is a 'brilliant comedian'...
 
Very fair, was one of the few who was complimentary about us when we were on Sky too.

On the "don't have brilliant players" I understand what he really means is "don't have world class players", but so far this season there are only two teams with a team of world class players and they're Citeh and Liverpool. The rest of the league is awash with "good" players, and it's going to be about which manager can get the best out of them and which have a few world class players to add to the mix the good players levels up a bit.

Tottenham rely on 3 or 4 world class players to get a team of average ones into the CL places for example.
Spot on mate. And we know Chris and his team will get every last ounce out of our lads. We can cope with whatever's thrown at us by the vast majority IMHO.
 
Can anybody tell me who exactly (and when) has labelled us Old School ?

Agree with ISC, think Wilder has said a few times that he still has old school management values (same school as Dave Bassett).

Wilder is honest and up front with the players...at times one of the lads..but clearly the boss who demands 100% effort and attitude.
Anyone with a poor attitude or any PL pre-madonna types won’t last long under Wilder. No one crosses Chris Wilder and gets away with it.

This is different to many other clubs because they use the new school European system of employing first team coaches
Where as Wilder is old school in that he is clearly the manager who controls just about everything at a club.
 



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