Wilder Interview

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HillmortonBlade said:
Wilder has brought new players in, and of course he will want more, he always will when/if the upward progress starts. My bone of contention is (and yes, it's only four competitive matches in) should we not have seen a glimmer of things improving? That the green shoots of development where pushing up through the Desso pitch?

It's a good point made by BladeInIreland but what if Wilder does not get his targets? How long can he/we use that excuse for what is being played out on the pitch?

Hopefully all changed by full-time at Milwall.
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We certainly shouldn't have seen things regress the way we have since Bolton.

Fingers and toes crossed for Millwall.
 



BladeInIreland said:
diamonds out of shit is exactly what wilder is trying to do untill we fill those key positions.
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He isn't playing to a single one of our players strengths, what do you expect him to achieve from that?
 
Caseh said:
He isn't playing to a single one of our players strengths, what do you expect him to achieve from that?
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what are you expecting him to achieve without a good enough first choice gk, cm or cb?

if we sacked him tommorow and replaced him with the best manager in the world we still woyldn't have enough players to do well.

i expect little to no improvement till the board get his signings in.
 
At least he's called a turd a turd and not tried to sugar coat a crap performance ... give him time and he will get it right
 
BladeInIreland said:
what are you expecting him to achieve without a good enough first choice gk, cm or cb?

if we sacked him tommorow and replaced him with the best manager in the world we still woyldn't have enough players to do well.

i expect little to no improvement till the board get his signings in.
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Hussey - Crap, defensive liability and we aren't playing in a way to take advantage of attacking full backs.
Fleck - Ignored. Ball constantly booted over his head.
Duffy - Crippled. No one around able to work with him, not playing to his strengths.
Clarke - Crippled. Constantly having to try and win long balls, not playing to his strengths.
Wilson - Looks like a back up defender.
O'Connell - Looks good, needs a better partner.
Wright - No idea, not seen him
Chapman - Not started a game, hard to judge. Not playing wide enough to make use of his supposed strengths.

So that is Wilders signings so far, he is playing right into each players weakness. A lot of our team aren't good enough, I get that. He also doesn't get all the blame, but he has to take a big chunk of it. He needs more players, but he has to use what he has better as well. He is the manager, he picks the team (the same crap team 4 games running might I add), he picks the formation, sets out the tactics. We have got worse each game so far. And if we put someone like Warnock in charge, we absolutely would not have lost that game 3-0.
 
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PokerBlade said:
I had sympathy for Clarke tonight. Headed one just wide, not really another decent ball for him. The main thing is getting the basics right around him. He didn't win too many headers cleanly enough to direct them, but so many of them dropped down nearby from how well he held defenders off. That means if you're putting ball after ball up there, just get someone standing close. It's not hard. But instead every ball that dropped around him was cleaned up by a Southend player.
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Agreed. The ratio of the second ball was abysmal. We won virtually nothing all game.
 
Cyprus Blade said:
Not been tonight as I'm out of the country, but I listened to BP and to the post match interview and I have to say that the combination of both leave me feeling totally despondent. Southend must love us - they hadn't won a game since they last played us in March. Rochdale's only point has come against us away.The mighty Crewe were held to a draw at home by Hartlepool. Maybe I shouldn't comment because I haven't had to sit and watch our club perform like a bunch of amateurs tonight (I did at the Crewe game though) but I feel strongly about a club I have supported for well over 50 years.

We sound a complete and utter shambles, tactically, organisationally and quality wise. Worse it doesn't really sound as if we have a united changing room or a manager who knows what is wrong and how to fix it or whether it can be. For me Wilder has an Adams aura about him (sadly) and this combines with our habit of ditching a manager every season and ending up with a hotch potch of badly motivated, dubious players bought by a panoply of former managers. We are anything but United.

We didn't get into this situation overnight - it is a product of short termist and knee-jerk decisions at the very top, inconsistent financing and direction, inconsistent club organisation, a loss of bottle in the Boardroom when things go wrong (sack the manager - Blackwell and Wilson come to mind), a failure to retain our better players, poor team building, poor player acquisition and a general spiral into a decline which is looking more and more permanent. In the words of those philosophical giants The Sweet - we just haven't got a clue what to do. Supporters are getting frustrated especially as our home form, in what was once fortress Bramall Lane, is on a progressive downward path in recent years - last season there were 12 teams with stronger home records. Morale and the situation is getting more toxic by the match and we are starting to rip ourselves apart.

It's time for everyone associated with the club to wake up and smell the coffee - we need to stop hiding behind false optimism and the tradition and history of our once great club and recognise that we are where we deserve to be and, never mind the Championship, we are in grave danger of spiralling our way back down to the fourth division.

UTB
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Yep. Agree with all of that. We’ve been rudderless at the top since the great Derek Dooley stepped down.


How anyone can defend McCable’s reign of terror is beyond me.
 
Therusstler said:
Better put those motivational posters back up Wilder. Alarm bells rang for me when he started getting sly digs in at previous regimes, when you do that you've got to deliver.

There was no fight or spirit out there tonight and that is all on him, this is his team, he's shaped it. An opportunity that other managers would have loved. I fear we've wasted it on a glorified PE teacher.

That said, it's early days, I hope I'm wrong.

I'd fucking love to be.
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I agree some would have loved the opportunity to shape the team the way they want it. We had a manager with an excellent CV who would have loved such an opportunity but we got rid before allowing him one in the mistaken belief that it can only get better with the new manager (as some seem to believe every year) yet it only gets worse year on year.
 
BladeInIreland said:
I don't blame wilder. He still doesn't have his team together. Everyone agrees were missing a gk, cm and a cb. If thats the case is it any wonder were not winning? The attitude of he shoulf of got them in sooner baffles me, he doesnt negotiate with clubs and players.If it was down to him he would obvipusly want all his players in now.
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Agreed but it was a stick used to beat Adkins with throughout the entirety of last season too. That said, the players that were out there underperformed to a ridiculous extent, regardless of the need for 2-3 extra players. On paper, we have a better team than Southend and to get rolled over like that is a disgrace.
 
Caseh said:
Hussey - Crap, defensive liability and we aren't playing in a way to take advantage of attacking full backs.
Fleck - Ignored. Ball constantly booted over his head.
Duffy - Crippled. No one around able to work with him, not playing to his strengths.
Clarke - Crippled. Constantly having to try and win long balls, not playing to his strengths.
Wilson - Looks like a back up defender.
O'Connell - Looks good, needs a better partner.
Wright - No idea, not seen him
Chapman - Not started a game, hard to judge. Not playing wide enough to make use of his supposed strengths.

So that is Wilders signings so far, he is playing right into each players weakness. A lot of our team aren't good enough, I get that. He also doesn't get all the blame, but he has to take a big chunk of it. He needs more players, but he has to use what he has better as well. He is the manager, he picks the team (the same crap team 4 games running might I add), he picks the formation, sets out the tactics. We have got worse each game so far. And if we put someone like Warnock in charge, we absolutely would not have lost that game 3-0.
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Look im not saying hds done everything right.But whats missing is causing most of this. Yourright wilson is back up , that was wilders plan. But if the back 5 is that poor, he can't use the full backs as he would obviously like.attacking full backs. If the back 5 is that poor we can't commit all our midfield forward, hense the long ball. When the gaps get filled we should see his players playing how he originally wanted.
 
Drunk blade said:
At least he's called a turd a turd and not tried to sugar coat a crap performance ... give him time and he will get it right
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I'll give him that, he has very honestly told us that the signings he has made have not been good enough in the early stages of the season and that we have already reached "Sink or swim". I can't remember what he said about the team selection or tactics, not that his comments matter a jot compared to what actually happens at the next match.

I feel greatly reassured :eek:

I hope you are right and I am wrong. I stuck with Adkins far too long (or maybe not long enough, a nod to Barney ) and now my gut instinct is ruining my clapper-instinct.
 
BladeInIreland said:
Look im not saying hds done everything right.But whats missing is causing most of this. Yourright wilson is back up , that was wilders plan. But if the back 5 is that poor, he can't use the full backs as he would obviously like.attacking full backs. If the back 5 is that poor we can't commit all our midfield forward, hense the long ball. When the gaps get filled we should see his players playing how he originally wanted.
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Our players man for man, played to their strengths are better than Southends. What happened about not worrying about the opposition, and playing our best way every game? It seems that has already gone.
And if he is so worried about our defense, why play 442? Play the 4231 that he did ALL summer.
 
Caseh said:
Our players man for man, played to their strengths are better than Southends. What happened about not worrying about the opposition, and playing our best way every game? It seems that has already gone.
And if he is so worried about our defense, why play 442? Play the 4231 that he did ALL summer.
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of course we have to worry about the opposition. Part of the reason were still down here was the attitude of players that it would be a walk in the park.

Im not a manager, for what ever reason he thought that it would help. Who knows maybe we would of lost by more in the other formation.

Im just not gonna judge him too harshly till the yeams together, if he doesnt get the players it would be the board id be asking questions about. If he gets them and still pulls out those performances then id question wilder.
 



Derek Dooley, a leader of men and greatly missed at the club, we've been a shambles since his passing.
We need Leadership on and off the pitch, the defending for the last two goals was abhorant and unforgivable.
 
Words are cheap Mr Wilder - You called it as you saw it at Bolton - Since then you have picked the same team and they have got progressively worse !
A few words for you Mr Wilder - The performances from both the players and management team are just not acceptable - You are responsible for the results - Perhaps you were good enough for the likes of Halifax, Oxford and Northampton but to date your track record at the Lane is on par with David Weir - Your signings are no better than the rubbish we saw last year and it does appear that despite strong words to the likes of Andy Giddins and the othe r radio Sheffield cronies you can't alter the players mindset !
To be honest last nights 'performance' was as poor as anything I have seen at the Lane in the last fifty years - At least when we got thrashed by Stoke, Sunderland and the likes they were half decent - Southend were rock bottom of the league with something like eight losses on the bounce !
I don't want to hear bullshit and I don't want to hear what is going to happen - I want to see improvement on the field by a team of players willing to run through brick walls for the cause !
Every game now we are getting Blades fans v Blades fans having stand out arguements about how shit our players and team are - it is not a nice place to go anymore !
I used to really look forward to match day ! Now Sheffield United FC have become a Joke - Professional Footballers don't make me laugh - Not one of them could care less !
 
super_pig said:
'kin ell.. the most damning indictment yet eh?
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"kin ell" indeed, my first game last night, last season people were saying "its not the losing, its that they dont seem to give a toss, dont try" well if that was effort last night we are in for the worst season ever. Time we saw a Wilder team that goes about it like he was telling us all just a few short weeks ago. I just thank god I'm an optomist.
 
Bolton was a shite performance, if he thinks that was in anyway half decent then he is clearly deluded.

They had 10 fucking men in the end and we still barely created any chances against a bang average Bolton team!
 
I've scanned the thread and can't see it mentioned but apologies if I've missed it but as Wilder said the second and third were offside weren't they? Just watched the goals and can't see the scorer and guy who crossed it in the same shot but looked offside. The second was blatantly offside and just incompetent officials not knowing the rules.
 
zablade said:
Phew that a relief.

How many points do we get for that then?
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Beat Jedi said:
I'm so glad it was a great interview.
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How many do you think we get. The thread is about the interview not the game. What did you want him to do? Come out and paper over it. Talk shite, give it the adkins. Obviously this interview doesn't make the result alright. Only a fucking idiot would think that but in the context of what happened in the game it was the right interview to give.

Or should he have come out and gone " you know what the fucking problem with this club is Mccabe, shit players, not enough investment. Only the real fans on S24su know how to run a football club. Fucking dying this club. Don't bother supporting it. George Long is a cunt, I'm a long ball cunt, Sharp and Clarke can't play together. We don't know what we're fucking doing. For christ sakes we've played 3 league games and one cup game I should have it all perfect, we should be in the fuckin Prem by now. You know who else is a cunt that turkish guy, Coutts, in fact anyone who has anything to do with this club on any level, including the fans, is a fucking cunt!
 
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eric_oulthwaite said:
How many do you think we get. The thread is about the interview not the game. What did you want him to do? Come out and paper over it. Talk shite, give it the adkins. Obviously this interview doesn't make the result alright. Only a fucking idiot would think that but in the context of what happened in the game it was the right interview to give.

Or should he have come out and gone " you know what the fucking problem with this club is Mccabe, shit players, not enough investment. Only the real fans on S24su know how to run a football club. Fucking dying this club. Don't bother supporting it. George Long is a cunt, I'm a long ball cunt, Sharp and Clarke can't play together. We don't know what we fucking doing. For christ sakes we've played 3 league games and one cup game I should have it all perfect, we should be in the fuckin Prem by now. You know who else is a cunt that turkish guy, Coutts, in fact anyone who has anything to do with this club on any level, including the fans, is a fucking cunt!
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Basically the forum since the start of the season summed up in a few paragraphs. Post more often Eric, save me wading through the same shite day in day out :)
 
Beat Jedi said:
I've scanned the thread and can't see it mentioned but apologies if I've missed it but as Wilder said the second and third were offside weren't they? Just watched the goals and can't see the scorer and guy who crossed it in the same shot but looked offside. The second was blatantly offside and just incompetent officials not knowing the rules.
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2nd and 3rd goals definitely offside. We would still have lost though I reckon.
 
Worryingly how they even got into that position in the first place. So much went wrong and it was not if the defence came out and played offside. They tried that on the first and that went wrong when Hussey came out and then soon after cross came in and was sliced in by O'Connell. If they had been offside it was not planning or good play!
 
Deadbat said:
Worryingly how they even got into that position in the first place. So much went wrong and it was not if the defence came out and played offside. They tried that on the first and that went wrong when Hussey came out and then soon after cross came in and was sliced in by O'Connell. If they had been offside it was not planning or good play!
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Well yes exactly. And judging by the lack of reaction from our defenders after the 2nd goal they don't know the rules either!
 
eric_oulthwaite said:
How many do you think we get. The thread is about the interview not the game. What did you want him to do? Come out and paper over it. Talk shite, give it the adkins. Obviously this interview doesn't make the result alright. Only a fucking idiot would think that but in the context of what happened in the game it was the right interview to give.

Or should he have come out and gone " you know what the fucking problem with this club is Mccabe, shit players, not enough investment. Only the real fans on S24su know how to run a football club. Fucking dying this club. Don't bother supporting it. George Long is a cunt, I'm a long ball cunt, Sharp and Clarke can't play together. We don't know what we're fucking doing. For christ sakes we've played 3 league games and one cup game I should have it all perfect, we should be in the fuckin Prem by now. You know who else is a cunt that turkish guy, Coutts, in fact anyone who has anything to do with this club on any level, including the fans, is a fucking cunt!
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:D Good response have a like! I have heard the interview yes he is saying the right things. Just frustrating as it seems the players aren't capable of manning up to what he wants at the mo.
 
Caseh said:
He is still making basic errors with what he has. Like launching the ball over the likes of Fleck, ignoring the offensive minded full backs, and expecting Clarke and Sharp to make diamonds out of shit.
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It's just as Adkins said: "Pressure makes diamonds out of shit"
 



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