Wilder Interview

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Better put those motivational posters back up Wilder. Alarm bells rang for me when he started getting sly digs in at previous regimes, when you do that you've got to deliver.

There was no fight or spirit out there tonight and that is all on him, this is his team, he's shaped it. An opportunity that other managers would have loved. I fear we've wasted it on a glorified PE teacher.

That said, it's early days, I hope I'm wrong.

I'd fucking love to be.
 



Agree the system is a huge part of the problem,we should be playing through Fleck not over him, and making better use of the flanks.It looks like we try the above for about 20 minutes, create a couple of chances without scoring then think 'f**k this' and start hoofing it.
However none of this explains the defensive howlers that reared their head tonight and just as the CB pairing was starting to look okay or George's cock up on Saturday .Yet again it is all reminiscent of players freezing and messing up the basics.

Wilder is responsible in the end but the players have to focus and concentrate on what they are doing.
They played all the first half devoid of any ideas, nobody wanting the ball, everybody looking at everbody else for some inspiration, hoof it forward all time from long, this was surely the instruction from Wilder, never rolled it out to anybody, the players flicking it, punting it to, well who ever was closest, I cannot remember 60 minutes as bad from the last two managers, the strange thing is, on paper they are good players, also Clarke late on seemed to start having a little go at his team mates, he also gave up for the last 15 minutes and was still easily our best player, looking with interest at the new recruits, hurry up Chris the fans wont stand for much more of this, me included.
 
I don't blame wilder. He still doesn't have his team together. Everyone agrees were missing a gk, cm and a cb. If thats the case is it any wonder were not winning? The attitude of he shoulf of got them in sooner baffles me, he doesnt negotiate with clubs and players.If it was down to him he would obvipusly want all his players in now.
 
Yes, that was two bad performance at home in a row and it pisses me off.

But can we please use a bit of perspective here. We are three games into a season with a completely new coaching staff and a mostly new team that hasn't played together before.

Give them a chance FFS.
 
The more I think about this, the more I get the feeling of a relegation team more than a promotion one!

The minute players of their ability can no longer do the basics expected of a pro footballer, then we are in trouble.
 
The more I think about this, the more I get the feeling of a relegation team more than a promotion one!

The minute players of their ability can no longer do the basics expected of a pro footballer, then we are in trouble.
Far to early for stupid talk like that, at least wait until Sunday, I mean give the man a chance.
 
Basics....can't control it...can't pass it....can't get their head up and just hit it anywhere.....that's pub league standard.
Pro footballers should be capable of more. And to be a pro suggests they have been consistently at some point.
But when they play like pub players, then we are in trouble.
3 games in, and these players have already gone backwards.....3 games.
From a decent showing at Bolton....to that.

Not what is expected, and the manager has to take the criticism it deserves.
 
He looked as shell-shocked as I felt on the Kop last night.

Early days. BUT I am getting creeping doubts about this man's ability to turn this around. Not least because he has never managed at this level and no disrespect to Northampton or Oxford but this is a far bigger club with bigger expectations that getting thumped by Southend at home.
 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - New GK - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Freeman - - Wright - - O'Connell - - Hussey

- - - - - - - - - Basham - - Coutts - - - - - - - - - -

Chapman - - - - - - McNulty - - - - - - Duffy

- - - - - - - - - - - - - Clarke - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
They looked like a side who didn't like / buy into the manager.

I wasn't there last night, but going on Saturday I thought they looked more like a bunch of strangers, none of whom really knew the strengths of the players around them. That's understandable when you bring 6 completely new players into the first team, and that's probably where Wilder has been thinking in terms of keeping the same XI (further changes would delay that process etc).

When you have so many changes, you look to the experienced members of the club to step up more to help the new influx. Unfortunately all of our existing players are arguably playing poorer than all of the new players (for differing reasons). How can Done instill confidence when he himself is terrible at the unnatural position he's been asked to play? How can Long, Brayford, Basham instill confidence when they are woefully underperforming in the positions where they're supposed to be first choice? How can the captain instill confidence when for much of the game he's a spectator at the top end of the pitch?

No easy fix, but as a start Wilder needs to abandon the doomed-from-the-start Done at left-wing project, and consider a tactical change that either moves or drops Brayford/Basham. We will hopefully get a new keeper in, but if not little point throwing Ramsdale in with the atmosphere as poisonous as it currently swim. One of the main problems with the Weir start was that he clung far too much to a system that relied heavily on McDonald – and realised this far too late to save him. Hopefully Wilder has a bit more sense...
 
Still early days and I will give it more time before I get too worked up but a few observations so far :

Long looks totally out of confidence and in reality is not good enough
Hussey has not impressed at all both defensively and in his delivery which was supposed to be excellent but has been very erratic. Brayford looks a shadow of the player he was.
The two centre halves look two similar in stature and probably ability. They need a wiser more composed player at the side of one of them.
What is the point of buying Fleck if your going to lump the ball front to back from the centre halves to Clarke.
Sharp is not near enough to Clarke and is not reacting to any balls won by him. There body language together also doesn't look great.
The high pressing attacking game we were promised is not happening. Done, Sharp and Duffy look leggy already. Done especially who normally chases everything either cant or wont and looks lost out wide left.

All in all not good and not much signs of encouragement so far, but other sides have started the season before looking awful and have gone on to get promoted.
 
I'm no football "expert" proof being I thought we got it right with N#1 and N#2. However, one thing I've noticed with all 3 home games is we give the opposition 2 yards space on the ball and that allows them to pass with ease and leaves players wide open for tap ins (2 last night). Whereas, every time we get near a ball they are down our throat easily stopping and breaking up our game.

Wilder must have some idea how to stop this and use it to our advantage. Int that what he's paid to do?
 



I don't blame wilder. He still doesn't have his team together. Everyone agrees were missing a gk, cm and a cb. If thats the case is it any wonder were not winning? The attitude of he shoulf of got them in sooner baffles me, he doesnt negotiate with clubs and players.If it was down to him he would obvipusly want all his players in now.

This is fair enough BladeInIreland, but surely CW should be playing a formation and system that suits what he currently has at his disposal?
 
I don't blame wilder. He still doesn't have his team together. Everyone agrees were missing a gk, cm and a cb. If thats the case is it any wonder were not winning? The attitude of he shoulf of got them in sooner baffles me, he doesnt negotiate with clubs and players.If it was down to him he would obvipusly want all his players in now.

You're baffled that people think we should have sorted out our squad before the season started?

Really?

That's an idea you don't understand?

You can't see the reasoning behind it?
 
You're baffled that people think we should have sorted out our squad before the season started?

Really?

That's an idea you don't understand?

You can't see the reasoning behind it?

Now baffled as to whether ypur being sarcastic or completely misread my post.
 
This is fair enough BladeInIreland, but surely CW should be playing a formation and system that suits what he currently has at his disposal?

possibly. Maybe he thinks the players would suit his formation less till the defence is fixed.might be wrong just don't think he should be blamed as much as he is.
 
possibly. Maybe he thinks the players would suit his formation less till the defence is fixed.might be wrong just don't think he should be blamed as much as he is.
These are mostly his players, it's his formation, his "style" of play.. But he should be blamed less?
 
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These are mostly his players, it's hid formation, his "style" of play.. But he should br blamed less?

Mostly his players yes but still not a full team. When he has his team together and were still that bad, then he will deserve what comes to him.
 
Mostly his players yes but still not a full team. When he has his team together and were still that bad, then he will deserve what comes to him.
He is still making basic errors with what he has. Like launching the ball over the likes of Fleck, ignoring the offensive minded full backs, and expecting Clarke and Sharp to make diamonds out of shit.
 
He is still making basic errors with what he has. Like launching the ball over the likes of Fleck, ignoring the offensive minded full backs, and expecting Clarke and Sharp to make diamonds out of shit.

diamonds out of shit is exactly what wilder is trying to do untill we fill those key positions.
 
Not been tonight as I'm out of the country, but I listened to BP and to the post match interview and I have to say that the combination of both leave me feeling totally despondent. Southend must love us - they hadn't won a game since they last played us in March. Rochdale's only point has come against us away.The mighty Crewe were held to a draw at home by Hartlepool. Maybe I shouldn't comment because I haven't had to sit and watch our club perform like a bunch of amateurs tonight (I did at the Crewe game though) but I feel strongly about a club I have supported for well over 50 years.

We sound a complete and utter shambles, tactically, organisationally and quality wise. Worse it doesn't really sound as if we have a united changing room or a manager who knows what is wrong and how to fix it or whether it can be. For me Wilder has an Adams aura about him (sadly) and this combines with our habit of ditching a manager every season and ending up with a hotch potch of badly motivated, dubious players bought by a panoply of former managers. We are anything but United.

We didn't get into this situation overnight - it is a product of short termist and knee-jerk decisions at the very top, inconsistent financing and direction, inconsistent club organisation, a loss of bottle in the Boardroom when things go wrong (sack the manager - Blackwell and Wilson come to mind), a failure to retain our better players, poor team building, poor player acquisition and a general spiral into a decline which is looking more and more permanent. In the words of those philosophical giants The Sweet - we just haven't got a clue what to do. Supporters are getting frustrated especially as our home form, in what was once fortress Bramall Lane, is on a progressive downward path in recent years - last season there were 12 teams with stronger home records. Morale and the situation is getting more toxic by the match and we are starting to rip ourselves apart.

It's time for everyone associated with the club to wake up and smell the coffee - we need to stop hiding behind false optimism and the tradition and history of our once great club and recognise that we are where we deserve to be and, never mind the Championship, we are in grave danger of spiralling our way back down to the fourth division.

UTB
 
New goalie (please for the love of God!)

Freeman - Wilson - O'Connell - Wright

------------Fleck Coutts Basham-----------

-----Done--------------------------Chapman

-------------------Clarke-----------------------

Big sticking point is no adequate replacement for Done's position. If maybe consider Freeman for it with Brayford at rb. That's more a 4-5-1 out of possession rather than 3 up top.
 



This is fair enough BladeInIreland, but surely CW should be playing a formation and system that suits what he currently has at his disposal?

Wilder has brought new players in, and of course he will want more, he always will when/if the upward progress starts. My bone of contention is (and yes, it's only four competitive matches in) should we not have seen a glimmer of things improving? That the green shoots of development where pushing up through the Desso pitch?

It's a good point made by BladeInIreland but what if Wilder does not get his targets? How long can he/we use that excuse for what is being played out on the pitch?

Hopefully all changed by full-time at Milwall.
 

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