Wilder - Get Rid Now, or After Last Game

[SBSP]

Do we call time now to start preapring for next season or let him see out the meaningless end to the season?

Glad he stopped us from getting relegated, but clearly what he once had to push on is gone.

 

[Slim Man]

Getting rid right now is stupid. No one we would (or should, rather) want would take the job as they should be employed already.

And the board are too thick football wise to dare get rid of him this summer after the last one.

We've still not learned from any mistakes of last summer in terms of getting football people in behind the scenes.

 

[joe casey]

Ridiculous.

Look at the squad - the poor signings made in the summer.
With no parachute's next year there's only one man I'd want pulling rabbits out of a hat and he's sat in the dugout.

Agree with Slim Man - until the infrastructure of the club is set up to survive without Wilder, then in my opinion its always going to end in tears without him (and yes Hecky a great job but he was essentially an extension of Wilder)

 

[jt64]

Ridiculous.

Look at the squad - the poor signings made in the summer.
With no parachute's next year there's only one man I'd want pulling rabbits out of a hat and he's sat in the dugout.

There are plenty of people I would want handling transfer business. None of whom I would want doing first team coaching at the same time. For any club remotely describing itself as operating in the 21st century, those are two different jobs.

 

[joe casey]

There are plenty of people I would want handling transfer business. None of whom I would want doing first team coaching at the same time. For any club remotely describing itself as operating in the 21st century, those are two different jobs.

Yes but as explained - the club has seemingly done nothing to rectify this still - as such Wilder is still the best option until this is sorted

 

[jt64]

Yes but as explained - the club has seemingly done nothing to rectify this still - as such Wilder is still the best option until this is sorted

And until Wilder is moved on it will not be sorted

 

[brownblade]

Yes but as explained - the club has seemingly done nothing to rectify this still - as such Wilder is still the best option until this is sorted

Yep and we're not going to repeat the errors of last summer, two weeks after one of the owners was preaching about Wilder being the right man.

He might still be the right man, but we do need staff and structure for post-Wilder. Which could be as early as Xmas if next season starts badly. Just being realistic, I'm not saying that's what I want.

 

[Blades1971]

Without CW this season we would have been in the same boat as our illustrious neighbours. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Do we call time now to start preapring for next season or let him see out the meaningless end to the season?

Glad he stopped us from getting relegated, but clearly what he once had to push on is gone.

We aren't mathematically safe yet, you only have to look at Preston who were in the playoffs and now in freefall to see how easily we could follow if we aren't careful.

 

[BerksBlade]

I would be all for replacing him in the summer if the structure was in place to allow a different type of manager to flourish.
But it's not - and it won't be. So Wilder carries on unless we want a repeat of the Selles disaster.

 

[jt64]

Without CW this season we would have been in the same boat as our illustrious neighbours. Be careful what you wish for.

I mean if we continued to play utter dogshit once we got an easy run of games, you might have been right. However, we are now playing a different brand of dogshit, and we're mid table

 

[jt64]

I would be all for replacing him in the summer if the structure was in place to allow a different type of manager to flourish.
But it's not - and it won't be. So Wilder carries on unless we want a repeat of the Selles disaster.

Are you seriously making the implication that because Selles didn't work, nobody other than Wilder will work?

 

[alcoblade]

Working on a much more limited budget than we've had for years - Wilder is definitely the man I'd want in charge.

Can anyone list any better candidates?*

*Please avoid the usual suspects with a good last year and nothing more under their belts.

I bet it's a very short list.

 

[coolasanidiot]

I mean if we continued to play utter dogshit once we got an easy run of games, you might have been right. However, we are now playing a different brand of dogshit, and we're mid table

It's not all been dogshit at all. We played really well in mid part of season - his remit was to keep us up and he's done it,simply put 'he's done his job'. Last couple of matches have been poor but he gets 8/10 for the season from me. Next season with a proper pre -season he and WE will do well.

 

[coolasanidiot]

Are you seriously making the implication that because Selles didn't work, nobody other than Wilder will work?

Nobody is saying that,we are saying he's done well deserves another season that's it?

 

[Tarqs]

Without CW this season we would have been in the same boat as our illustrious neighbours. Be careful what you wish for.

This is simply a view I can't get behind.

You're literally saying absolutely nobody else could have done what he's done, with 41 games left.

 

[jt64]

It's not allbeen dogshit at all. We played really well in mid part of season - his remit was to keep us up and he's done it,simply put 'he's done his job'.

I think pretty much anyone would have kept us up. I can only think of maybe half a dozen games tops where we have either played really well, or I've been entertained. As such, nothing has changed other than we have not got the unsustainable amount of close victories that we had last season.

 

[jt64]

Nobody is saying that,we are saying he's done well deserves another season that's it?

He is literally saying that Wilder stays unless we want another repeat of the Selles "disaster". That is a direct implication that nobody else will work and sacking Wilder will result in inevitable massive failure.

 

[Need4speed]

I wouldn't of sacked him last summer, but wasn't bothered when he was. I didn't particularly want him back but not unhappy about it and he has done ok. But there is little point in having the debate about him now because there is no way the owners can do what they did last summer again and they are not even thinking about replacing him. Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view Wilder will be here next season.

 

[JT89]

Are you seriously making the implication that because Selles didn't work, nobody other than Wilder will work?

The belief that some on here have that Wilder is the only manager who can work on a limited budget or who could have got us safe this season is utterly bizarre.

 

[MobileBlade]

39 points from last 22 matches. Leave it at that. Would be 5th in table.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Working on a much more limited budget than we've had for years - Wilder is definitely the man I'd want in charge.

Can anyone list any better candidates?*

*Please avoid the usual suspects with a good last year and nothing more under their belts.

I bet it's a very short list.

Just thinking off the top of my head for experienced championship managers that don't have a Wednesday connection and aren't in a job (like Moore or Pearson). We are looking at the likes of Tony Mowbray, can't think of many others that would even want to take it on. Possibly Mark Warburton could be an option but he has been away from football for a bit.

 

[jimmymuir]

An absolute disaster of a summer transfer window bringing in a haul of rejects for fairly big money before losing the first five matches of the season under Selles. When Wilder returned, I'd certainly have taken the position we're in now. Give him the summer, release the deadwood and let him rebuild the squad, I'm sure we will be a much better outfit next season.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Working on a much more limited budget than we've had for years - Wilder is definitely the man I'd want in charge.

Can anyone list any better candidates?*

*Please avoid the usual suspects with a good last year and nothing more under their belts.

I bet it's a very short list.

Still waiting myself for some potential replacements being mentioned.

 

[UTB Blade]

Oh, goody, another Wilder out thread.

I haven't seen one of those in the last ~ checks watch ~ 45 seconds.

 

[UTB Blade]

Working on a much more limited budget than we've had for years - Wilder is definitely the man I'd want in charge.

Can anyone list any better candidates?*

*Please avoid the usual suspects with a good last year and nothing more under their belts.

I bet it's a very short list.

Still waiting myself for some potential replacements being mentioned.

Unfortunately you're not allowed to ask a sensible question like this - well, you're allowed to ask it, but don't expect sensible answers - because when I asked this perfectly reasonable question last year when everyone was clamouring for a new manager, I just got a load of unrealistic, pie-in-the-sky answers, interspersed with a load of 'I don't care who we get, anyone's better than Wilder' nonsense.

And don't forget, this was when we'd just finished 3rd in the league, that this 'anyone's better than Wilder' claptrap was being hurled around!

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

The only way he'll go is losing the first 6 games of next season. Including a tonking by Spurs 7-0. Then, with precedent set....he'll be gone and Hecky will return to save the day.....again. This prediction lark is too easy!!

 

[ShorehamRevolution]

Do we call time now to start preapring for next season or let him see out the meaningless end to the season?

Glad he stopped us from getting relegated, but clearly what he once had to push on is gone.

How many points could we have gained in the period selles was manager? Let’s called it 7 points, 2 wins and a draw, where would that put us in the league? Add to that he’d have signed better players and probably gave the squad a better pre season I’d say we’d have gained more than 7 points in the period Selles was with us.
Change your mattress, it’s yellow.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Unfortunately you're not allowed to ask a sensible question like this - well, you're allowed to ask it, but don't expect sensible answers - because when I asked this perfectly reasonable question last year when everyone was clamouring for a new manager, I just got a load of unrealistic, pie-in-the-sky answers, interspersed with a load of 'I don't care who we get, anyone's better than Wilder' nonsense.

And don't forget, this was when we'd just finished 3rd in the league, that this 'anyone's better than Wilder' claptrap was being hurled around!

Im sure in September they all wanted Philipe Clement instead of safe hands Chris to keep us up. Spurs fans want similar instead of some unknown (maybe) good manager.

Short term CW has done well and done his job.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Working on a much more limited budget than we've had for years - Wilder is definitely the man I'd want in charge.

Can anyone list any better candidates?*

*Please avoid the usual suspects with a good last year and nothing more under their belts.

I bet it's a very short list.

Agree…that’s the irony.

Our best ever managers were Bassett, Warnock and Wilder.

However their strength was assembling a good team with little money.
We always used to joke….give Warnock a war chest and he’ll waste it…..seems to be same with Wilder too.
All Wilders expensive signings have been failures…..it’s only the freebies and cheap signings that have been good.

Now that parachute payments are ending…..then Wilder is exactly what’s needed.